Critics say Border Patrol access bill would ruin environment

WASHINGTON — A bill that would grant the Department of Homeland Security unprecedented access to federal lands near the border was sharply criticized Friday for giving the department unchecked authority.

The National Security and Federal Lands Protection Act would let DHS waive 36 environmental-protection laws for patrol activities within 100 miles of U.S. borders.

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Langer on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 1:54am

In other words, "WE want to choose which laws to ignore and we darned sure don’t want to protect the sovereignty and security of the United States of America."

No damage done by Border Patrol agents could ever come close to the damage caused by illegal aliens.

bubba on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 5:49am
Title: Degrading?

For those opposing this bill and thinking (like Raul Grijalva) that the BP operations will degrade the water, air and environments of border communities need to get out onto the federal lands and see the degradation the illegals have done to the land with massive piles of trash, human waste, and eroding trails.

And please do so while getting out of thier vehicle or helicopter and actually hike these areas. To paraphrase Mr Grijalva, no one wants to go to some areas because of the damage illegals have done, or the chance of coming into contact with smugglers. And I won’t even get into the fires started by illegals intentionally or unintentionally.

Charles Ramsey on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 6:53am

Just in case you didn’t make the connection between the two front page stories I am going to explain them to you. The BLM has stated the border patrol is the number one destroyer of public land. The destruction of the land has changed the microclimate of the region. Nenuded land and compacted land results in less absorbtion of water that is it causes flooding. The destruction of the plants causes less recapture of mosture by the roots of the plants and condensation on the underside of leaves. This results in less humidity by evapotation of the plants. Less humidity in the atmosphere causes less rain. Denuding the land also increases wind speed making fires spread faster and futher damages plants by abrasion. You don’t break the laws of physics they break you without remorse and without recourse.

AZShooter on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 7:48am
Title: Once Again

Once again, Raul Grijalva raises his ugly head against anything having to do with protecting citizens in this country from his illegal alien friends. There should be nothing standing in the way of our ability to eradicate illegal aliens and terrorists from crossing our borders illegally. Heck, it’s the illegal aliens that are wrecking the environment in these protected areas to begin with. Give Homeland Security unfettered access and we will kill two birds with one stone; no illegal aliens and a protected environment.

oatka on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 8:36am

“1505 may succeed in decreasing immigration, but only because the water,
air and environments of border communities will be so degraded, no one will
want to come here,” said Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Tucson. And the threat of
being murdered by drug mules won’t? Have they seen the environmental wreckage
these illegals have left? Of course they have, but “Reconquista” is the name
of the game and they are using their useful idiots in power to gain their

weinna on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 8:58am

 How in the world can anyone listen to Raul’s argument that the Border Patrol’s presence would endanger the environment.  Anyone notice how the land has been damaged from the Monument Fire?  Duh?  Raul is using his elected position to act with prejudice.  

WW2 Marine Veteran on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 11:10am

I agree with AZShooter comments: Raul Grijalva has long supporte the flooding of ILLEGALS across our Southern Border.  Even though the main problem is Drug Cartels, they come across the border and kill our citizens so they can push their lousy drugs.  Our brave Border Agents are trying their best to do their job, but the ultra liberals want to give them continued access to our lands.

Pesc5118 on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 11:21am

This is pure baloney, salami and pepperoni.  WHO in the BLM claimed the Border Patrol was the primary destroyer of public lands?  Have they ever left their air-conditioned office?  Without the illegals tromping through federal lands, the BP has no cause to be there.

Where has BP activity denuded the land?  Following migrant and drug smuggler routes?  Who made those trails?  Who dumped the garbage?  Are volunteers who clean up the mess left by illegals also compacting the land?

Changing the microclimate?  Really?  Less humidity means less rain?  So what brings the Monsoons?  If you follow this link daily, you would see that water vapor is highly mobile and the rain you get may be water vapor generated over the Pacific.

Spare us this elite hoo-hah pretending you actually know something.

Auntie Em on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 1:47pm
Title: I agree

Yes, there is a lot of trash left by those who come here illegally. Yes, they have created new trails. This is a mess.

However, it won’t make it better if the bp can create even more roads. They already have horses and atv’s to travel the trails.

Also, immigration is WAY down, for a number of reasons, including less work in the US and more work in Mexico.

This is not the time to allow more environmental damage to our area. Once it is destroyed, it will take a long, long time to come back.

AzLuna on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 2:38pm

Although I agree with much of what everyone is saying, I can’t help but agree that the BP does have it’s hand in some of the destruction of the enviornment.  For example, those tire and chain things they drag over the roads and trails to "smooth the road" to look for fresh track, destroys a lot!  My mother’s truck was one thing those dragging devices destroyed and BP could give two you know whats about it. 

Many times I’ve seen them tearing through the terrain like they are shooting a commercial for Dodge or Ford.  I agree that in those "sensitive areas", great care must be taken to not damage anymore than what the illegals have already damaged.  I say horses are the way to go.  Even ATVs are destructive.

anon on Sat, 07/09/2011 - 6:35pm
Title: logic error

Rep. Raul Grijalva is mistaken when he claims that an unregulated border patrol would make the area a great wasteland.  IMO the border patrol will treat our lands with more respect than the illegals that are currently travelling through them.

kyb4725 on Sun, 07/10/2011 - 5:45am
Title: dysfunctional


Randy L. on Sun, 07/10/2011 - 1:20pm

I’d rather the BP have a minimal intrusion in these areas as opposed to illegals uncaring and unfettered access to these lands.

Liberals and illegal lovers are somewhat short in the thinking department.

RightOn on Sun, 07/10/2011 - 2:18pm

 A document drop by LulzSec has revealed an ominous bulletin from police officials in Tucson, Arizona. In short, law enforcement is advised to be on the lookout for Hezbollah terrorists operating in the traditional smuggling corridors on our (wide-open) southern border with Mexico.

"In July of this year, Mexican authorities arrested Jameel Nasr in Tijuana, Baja California. Nasr was alleged to be tasked with establishing the Hezbollah network in Mexico and throughout South America… … "

And people are worried about BP trampling some ground?  
Langer on Sun, 07/10/2011 - 11:27pm

We were aware of a group of al-Shabaab members in Mexico around 6-8 months ago.  No telling where they are now.

We know of at least one member of al Qaeda who crossed our southern border illegally.

And this border is such a worldwide JOKE that al Qaeda recruiter Abdullah al Nafisi is on video suggesting bringing anthrax across to sprinkle on the the White House lawn and other high population areas.

But rather than interdict bad guys our government is violating our Fourth Amendment rights by sexually assaulting people at airports without sworn warrants….


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