WILDFIRE EVACUATION!

Residents flee houses near Coronado Memorial





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By Bill Hess
Herald/Review

PALOMINAS — Kym Hall was delivered a double whammy.

First there was the fire which has burned nearly a third of the 12,000 acres of the Chiricahua National Monument, and now, slightly less than half the 4,750 acres of the Coronado National Memorial have been blackened.

Hall is the National Park’s superintendent for both sites.

Sunday, she said she was on her way to the Chiricahua site when she got a call from her staff at the Coronado Memorial saying there was a wildfire on the property.

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bubba on Wed, 06/22/2011 - 4:38am

I do agree with you in general terms about USFS policy of forest mangement over the decades and present lack of funding. However I tend to disagree with the assessment that firewood cutting and grazing would serve as a deterrant to fires of this magnitude. That analysis would be true in the lower elevations or in areas accessable by existing roads.

The ecosystem in these mountain ranges of oak, juniper, pine are fire dependent for their survival. Fire plays a necessary role in ecosystem survival, but us humans want to live in these ecosystems and want to have control over our enviornment. And no one can control the weather. More could be done to mitigate the growth you mention and explosive fire behavior with prescribed fire or less reaction to suppressing all small fires.

I do hope that all is well with you and are safe from the damage to those living in the urban / wildland interface. Remain safe and fire wise.

Fatheadrr on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:37pm

Thanks for the feedback Bubba.  Please understand I was in no way ranting against USFS workers.  They are fine people who work hard to maintain our treasured forests and natural resources.  But I do question some of the misguided USFS policies when it comes to forest management.  The forests in the southern mountains have been choked with undergrowth for years, and this should not have been allowed to happen.  I do understand that the USFS has been starved for funding by the Feds for the last two decades, and that the goals of local USFS staff to manage the forests more efffectively have been hindered by lack of money and manpower; but I think some of the undergrowth could have been alleviated by allowing more firewood cutting and more generous grazing leases to ranchers to promote more suppression of grasses and undergrowth by livestock.   

I am glad to here your positive take on the situation.  Animals are indeed resilient, I just hope they can continue to survive in these lands that beureaucrats back east seem to be bent on screwing up. 

bubba on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 6:37am

I agree with you in some of your assessments of why these fires are of such large magnitude. However, the Huachuca Mountains and the Chiricahua Mountains are not "destroyed". Very few animals are killed by the fire effects - they’re smart - they vacate the area (think of the movie "Bambi") 

Wildlife will move back in once the fire races thru even while trees are still burning and the smoke is still out there. Large game move into the area because their predators cannot smell them since their scent is masked by the smoke and ash. And animals lick the ash for nutrients and roll around in it to rid themselves of ticks and fleas. And when the forest regrow, it provides fresh green growth for foraging animals.

Having worked for the USFS for many years involved in fire suppression I’ve seen many small critters and large game carrying on while the fire is still active as if nothing occured. And one gentleman complained much as you have about fires, but later thanked us because he shot the biggest bull elk in his life in the area of the burn. So you and your son are sure to enjoy a successful hunt next time you go into the Huachuca or Chiricahua Mountains. So keep that dream alive.

Fatheadrr on Mon, 06/13/2011 - 3:59pm

I grew up in the area, and even though I live elsewhere now, it kills me to see the destruction that has been wrought in the Coronado Forest by the Horseshoe 2 and Memorial fires.  The mountains of Cochise County are in my blood, like they are a part of me.  I know most people who grew up here feel the same way.  As a hunter and sportsman my heart aches for the unique animals and wildlife that live in these Southern mountains.  These fires will kill, or at the very least put incredible stress on, the deer, lion, bear and bobcat and other wildlife that live in these beautiful mountain ranges.   

They will never know for sure who started the fire, so spending time arguing about it is a waste of precious oxygen.  The US Forest Service and the Washington bureaucrats running it, going back all the way to the Kennedy era, are as just as much or more to blame for this mindless destruction.  A half century of needless fire suppression, lack of controlled burning of underbrush, and the mindless refusal to issue woodcutting permits to conscientious citizens all played a part in this catastrophe.  I had hoped to one day take my son hunting in the mountains down there, the way my dad did with me.  I guess that dream is dead.  If any USFS people read this rant, I’d like to be set straight if I am wrong.

VOTE NO on Mon, 06/13/2011 - 6:23am
Title: MOST

Most likely this fire was started by an ILLEGAL since the park is closed to the public. I wonder when Americans will get tired of these people setting fire to our land?

KymJones on Mon, 06/13/2011 - 9:33am
Title: Really?

Why is it, every time there is a fire that is set, everyone seems so bent on blaming the Mexicans who try to cross over into our country? …Just because a place is closed off does not mean a mexican/illegal is the one to have crossed into the closed area.  WE are just as capable (if not more capable if you look at our history) as creating the fire.  We just don’t want to be the ones blamed so we blame those who have no way of defending themselves.  Are we really so bloody petty?  Grow up!!  Read our history, learn what the WHITE MAN is and has been capable of, and learn to accept responsiblity.  I’m not saying it was a white/black person who set the fire, but I’m sure not going to blame the Mexicans/Illegials just because we need a scapegoate.  .. Find out the facts before you start placing blame.  I mean, this IS the USA is it not?  Innocent until PROVEN guilty?  At least that’s how it’s supposed to be.  Though statements like this make me wish I were anywhere else but in the United States.  We were based on immigration and freedom of religion/persecution. …

brian
Premium Member
on Thu, 06/16/2011 - 7:21am

littel touchy eh, Kym?  he didn’t say "Mexican" he said ‘illegal", why did you automatically jump to the conclusion it was Mexican’s being blamed?

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Kaybee
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on Mon, 06/13/2011 - 2:13pm

First, I’d like to point out that Vote No wrote that it was LIKELY a fire set by illegals.  What is wrong with that?  The fire started extremely close to the border, in an area frequented by drug smugglers and plain old illegal aliens.  So, yeah, my best guess is that the fire was started by someone who was crossing into the US illegally. 

I love how you don’t give illegal aliens much credit for being intelligent enough to know how to set a fire: "WE are just as capable (if not more capable if you look at our history) as creating the fire." That’s a little insulting to Mexicans and those coming from further away, don’t you think?  They don’t even know how to start a fire?  Wow. 

And: "we blame those who have no way of defending themselves." Really?  They have dozens of attorneys just panting to take on the big bad government if given the chance.  And guess who foots the bill to keep them in the US during civil trials? 

I don’t need a scape goat, but I’m sure as heck going to point out that illegal aliens cause a heck of a lot of problems in our area and the people who run around saying, "Oh, they’re just poor immigrants…" can’t even admit it.  Illegal aliens trash the land; they are careless about fires; they waste emergency resources; they place a strain on social services; they crowd our jails because they commit additional crimes; etc, etc.

Yes, the US was founded by immigrants who stole the land from the Indians and purchased or won the land from the Mexicans and French (not stole).  However, my ancestors who immigrated here had to follow the laws and wait in long lines at Ellis Island, prove their health, physical ability, and even capability to support themselves financially in the US.  So, pardon me if I don’t feel sorry for people who break the law coming here.

Knight Rider on Mon, 06/13/2011 - 1:24pm

What is freedom of persecution? Does that mean I am free to persecute anyone as I see fit? Nice, I never knew I had this freedom.

Just The Three of Us on Mon, 06/13/2011 - 12:36pm

Why is it when someone has the audacity to mention ‘illegals’ (because heaven knows they must not exist!) does someone like you come along and accuse them of hatin’ on Mexicans?

The comment to which you replied did not mention any race or nationality.

If you’ve got some kind of weird ‘hate Europeans/love Mexicans’ thing going on, bully for you.  No one really cares.  But maybe you could consider GROWING UP and refraining from accusing others of making comments that lack merrit or thought when your own accusations are groundless. 

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