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Charters eager to serve the Bisbee, Sierra Vista


Tue, 09/07/2010 - 00:01







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By Shar Porier
Herald/Review

BISBEE — Though the county has seen the shuttering of a couple of schools during the past two years, organizers of Presidio schools in Tucson plan to open two new public charter schools — one in Bisbee and one in Sierra Vista.

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Bisbeemomo4's picture
Bisbeemomo4 on Tue, 09/07/2010 - 20:49
Title: While I believe in parental

While I believe in parental choice with regard to education, and I am glad to
see some options open up for Bisbee students, I have my doubts about this.
First, the admiistration needs to know the community in order to serve the
community. The best administrators we have in BUSD are those from BUSD, who
know the community and are invested in the success of the community. After
some of the poor administrators we have seen from out of town, there is a
lack of trust. Second, Bisbee has seen charter schools come and go, and
another out of town charter school administrator can pack up and leave when
the going gets tough (just like the others did). A local would be more likely
to see it through. I think it will be interesting to see what happens.

Family Man on Wed, 09/08/2010 - 05:32
Title: Choices

Choices are good but you need to be aware of your decsion. If money wasn’t an
issue. Would purchase a car like a Mercedes or a Ford Pinto? Charters and
Public Schools are not evenly keeled. I would fully support charter schools
if they are held to the same accountability as public schools.

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Bisbeemomo4 on Wed, 09/08/2010 - 18:30
Title: Family man, You make a few

Family man, You make a few excellent points. Accountability is a huge factor,
you are right on that. If someone passed their medical boards with out having
a medical degree, they would be at a higher risk of committing medical
malpractice. It stands to reason that a person passing the AEPA with out an
education degree would be at a higher risk of committing educational
 malpractice.

sensei
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on Tue, 09/07/2010 - 17:19
Title: Are charter schools held to the same standard?

An acquaintance of mine asked me if I knew someone who could help determine
if her child had a learning disorder that prevented her student from reading
at grade level. The woman said that the staff at a local charter did not have
anyone who was certified to test her child for learning disorders. I have no
reason to doubt what she is saying. The fact of the matter is that charter
schools are obligated to pay someone to test children for learning disorders
if they don’t have such a person on their staff. Because charter schools
are publicly funded they are required to provide the same services for
special needs students as are public schools. By ignoring their obligation to
provide services to special needs students, the charter schools hope to
recruit students who demand fewer resources. Even when skirting their
obligations to special needs students other local charter schools are far
less successful on AIMS scores than SV public schools.

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WW2 Marine Veteran on Tue, 09/07/2010 - 14:51
Title: Charter schools held to same standards...

Charter schools are held to the same standards as other public schools. I
personally believe this to be a good opportunity for Bisbee and Sierra Vista,
putting all ugly politics aside…

Family Man on Wed, 09/08/2010 - 05:27
Title: No Ed Degree

Charter school teachers do not have to hold an education degree. They just
need to pass the test. So if I can pass a doctor’s exam without a doctor’s
degree can I operate on you?

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Amazed2 on Tue, 09/07/2010 - 17:29
Title: Same Standards

WW2, they really aren’t held to the same standards. A good book to read is
“The Death and Life of the Great American School System” by Diane Ravitch.
The book clearly relays many of the studies that have been done that have
compared scores/performance of charter schools versus public schools as well
as some of the legal differences between the two. Chester E Finn Jr is a
leading charter proponent yet he was quoted stating, “Some of the best
schools I’ve ever been in are charter schools, some of which are blowing the
lid off test scores in such vexed communities as Boston…… And some of the
worst - and flakiest-schools I’ve ever been in are charter schools. Yet
people are choosing them.”