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McNeal man accused of second-degree murder

By Bill Hess
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Tuesday, Jan 13, 2009 - 04:14:07 am MST

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MCNEAL — A McNeal resident faces two counts of second-degree murder, according to Cochise County Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Carol Capas. A Sunday night shooting in the 8000 block of Tom Rose Lane in McNeal led to the arrest of 51-year-old Darryl Howard Chenowth on two counts of second degree murder, Capas said.

The incident began when a neighbor’s dog entered Chenowth’s property and reportedly tried to bite Chenowth, leading him to shooting and killing the animal.

Chenowth stated that two males, whom Capas identified as Thomas Rand, 44, of Bisbee and Leonardo Rivera, 20, of McNeal, “then came onto his (Chenowth’s) property and assaulted him with a wooden plank before he shot each of them with a .22-caliber handgun,” she said.

Chenowth called law enforcement and he was transported to a local hospital for treatment before being booked into the county Jail, where he remains in custody on a $2 million bond, she said.

No additional information was provided by the Sheriff's Office as the case continues to be under investigation.

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Any News On This wrote on Feb 5, 2009 3:46 PM:

" I'm not pointing fingers, but I hate it when a news story just fades away without any follow-up. "

TO respectfull dog owner wrote on Feb 3, 2009 12:19 PM:

" You said, "Whether u realize it or not, your dogs DNA is programed to be a hunter. " I'm not so sure about that fact. Actually, I can almost prove otherwise. We have a retired Greyhound living in our house, and it's darn near impossible to get her off the sofa... Of course, with a head that size, she can't have too much for brains in there (the Greyhound, I mean.) "

respectfull dog owner wrote on Feb 1, 2009 1:03 AM:

" Whether u realize it or not, your dogs DNA is programed to be a hunter. whether it's mouse-rat-fox-lion livestock-or child walking to their bus. Some dogs consider them game.1 of the laws that make sense in AZ. are leash laws. which every dog owner must abide by.So when a dog is killed. The only crime that is commited is by the owner for being arrogant & ignorant & negligent, in the care of their dogs. Next time you think your sweet fido is'nt carniverous conivore killer. offer him steak or salad see which 1 he chooses "

Just sayin wrote on Jan 31, 2009 8:09 PM:

" According to the Douglas paper the officer called the dog a "pooch". When in fact the "pooch" was a "PITBULL". I don't know about you but to me there is a significant difference between a "pooch" and a "PITBULL. "

Team520 wrote on Jan 27, 2009 4:00 PM:

" Also for the record.....A dog is representative of "property" and the people who owned the animal do not have the right to protect it with "force". The minute they stepped on to his property with a weapon and if he felt threatened enough for his life or great bodily harm he has the right to use "deadly" force to preserve that. No way can the courts prove otherwise in this case. "

only if you knew wrote on Jan 27, 2009 11:17 AM:

" I have known both families for years, and i know the ranch life by heart. Any rancher would agree to have shooting the dog for they're cattle and they're own saftey. But for someone to react by trying to beat someone to death over killin a vicious dog is rediculous. Try putting yourself in the same situation two on one you have a gun they have clubs! what would you do. when it comes down to you or them whats it gonna be? YOU RIGHT! there was no way to be reasonable about the stiuation apparently. Self defence!!! all theway "

Question wrote on Jan 27, 2009 11:11 AM:

" How long can the defendant be held in the county jail, before he has to be either indicted or released? How long does the County Attorney have to press charges or release the defendant? "

RWE wrote on Jan 26, 2009 11:47 AM:

" to Cheyenne, thanks, i thought that was how it worked. I was commenting on the Editor's Note that said:

EDITOR'S NOTE: CCSO Sgt. Roy Cook said today Chenowth hasn't had a pre-trial hearing. County Superior Court Clerk's Office said they haven't received the case yet, and that he hasn't made any court appearances " "

Common sense... wrote on Jan 26, 2009 7:51 AM:

" My thoughts and prayers go out to Darryl and his family. It is the owner’s responsibility to ensure their dog is under their control at all times. If you allow it to run wild and it attacks someone, expect some negative consequences. Lastly, use the brain the good lord gave you. If someone has a gun, lets say they just shot your dog, it probably isn’t a good idea to go and attack them. Common sense folks… Common sense. "

TO ALL wrote on Jan 26, 2009 7:08 AM:

" Everyone here is just going with the facts that this paper supplies, which are very few. So why do you continue to talk about things you dont really know about? "

Dog Gone wrote on Jan 25, 2009 7:05 PM:

" When someone kills two criminals while defending himself from an armed attack, that’s self-defense, not murder and it’s certainly NOT “in cold blood”. If the two criminals had obeyed the law, the dog would not have been shot and the two men would still be with us today as well. When the ARMED criminals attacked the homeowner he defended himself. "

To To Friend of Fam wrote on Jan 25, 2009 2:52 PM:

" No one was commenting on the article written by Bill Hess, so THAT comment makes no sense at all. The previous response was to Friend of Fam who said how frustrating it was for the victims not to be able to respond to all these comments with the facts. How does Friend of Fam know all the facts? Leo's mom??? The majority of the comments do support Darrell’s' actions so naturally Leo's family is upset. Lastly, no one is forcing the family to read the comments. "

Just amazed wrote on Jan 25, 2009 1:04 PM:

" I am absolutely amazed at the ignorance of all of these blogs. It is not the SVH's fault for lack of information. They report what they are given. And, do any of you live in McNeal. Carrying a weapon such as a 22 handgun is sometimes necessary. Snakes, javelina, etc other wildlife do attack and it is necessary to protect oneself or cattle in the area. Death is always sad someone loved them somewhere. I lived in McNeal, my dog was contained on my property and the BP came onto my property univited and ran over him leaving him dead "

To God saw everything... wrote on Jan 24, 2009 11:12 PM:

" From what I just read in your post it appears that you have already judged him. Murder: the crime of unlawfully killing a person esp with malice aforethought. Self defense: a plea of justification for the use of force or for homicide. From the article it appears he was attacked and defended himself. That is a legal and GOD given right. No one has announced the findings of the CCSO yet. Perhaps you are jumping the gun in your preconceived judgement. "

GOD saw everything and you face Gods judgement in the end. wrote on Jan 24, 2009 9:31 PM:

" When you live by a gun you die by the gun. He'll have t live with the fact and see the mens faces and dogs face as he murdered them the rest of his life and if he doesn't get justice now. Then God will be the one who judges him. We all face almighty God in the end. "

Smitty wrote on Jan 24, 2009 9:18 PM:

" It appears that we have supporters on both sides. The problem is the only people who know what really happened are either dead are in jail. At face value you do have the right to protect youself but there's more going on here than just self protection. I wouldn't allow a dog to bite me or someone to assault me if I could stop it. There's more to the story than is being told, it's early yet . Stay tuned. "

To To friend of the fam wrote on Jan 24, 2009 6:50 PM:

" I am sorry I was under the impression that Bill Hess wrote the article, not Leo's mom. So maybe you should get your facts straight. "

SAD wrote on Jan 24, 2009 5:13 PM:

" Sad situation to the lack of poor decision making. This is what happens when you take matters into your own hands. Law should of been contacted as soon as the dog was shot. You don't go and try to solve a matter when you know that a gun is involved.
Anyways 3 families have been affected and may the best come to past. "

To Friend of Fam wrote on Jan 24, 2009 8:44 AM:

" You said how awful it was not to be able to respond to all the comments with the facts. Here's the facts!! Tommy & Leo went to Darrells intending on causing him harm. Darrell responded to what he considered to be a threat on his life. Why would Leo's mom allow her son to confront someone who obviously had a gun??? Unless you were there that night, the "facts" you are talking about are actually Leo's moms' version of events. "

Cheyenne wrote on Jan 24, 2009 12:59 AM:

" RWE, the courts have an initial appearance to bring charges and set bail. This is still done even in justified shootings. If the shootings are deemed justified the charges will be dismissed. In the meantime I am sure that CCSO is proceeding by the book, crossing the t's and dotting the i's, so to speak. I am sure that Chenowth has been interrogated numerous times by now. If his story deviates or does not coincide with the evidence it will go to court. DISGUSTED, they obviously had attacked Chenowth. Do to that fact alone, it was not in cold blood. "

To D To D wrote on Jan 23, 2009 11:54 PM:

" Jumping to conclusion hastily , Given a man with a gun gets his knee poked at with a twig or something then kills two men . Sound dumb , like something out of , never happened land . Folks get a lot of sun down there ? "

To Disgusted wrote on Jan 23, 2009 7:29 PM:

" No one understands your point because it has no basis in reality, it’s the fabrication of too many TV shows. Going by the SVH account, according to Arizona Law Chenowith did NOT use “unjustified force” against the two ARMED (a club is a weapon) criminals; he did NOT need to build a fence as the .22 stopped the dog’s return. AZ law states the dog should have been on leash or contained by the dog’s OWNER. Just because the criminals were your friends doesn’t mean they were above the law. $2M bond is common when there are two bodies. "

Disgusted wrote on Jan 23, 2009 1:06 PM:

" First of all, I would never shoot another persons dog, which started this mess in the first place. Therefore I wouldn't have to worry about two men approaching me with boards. This guy will be held accountable for his actions (uh.. $2MM bail say anything to you) and too many folks simply cannot accept that fact. Hence the the pathetic arguement that it is ok to kill two men in cold blood. Also, the SVPD and CCSO does a fantastic job and my hat goes off to them. "

RWE wrote on Jan 23, 2009 11:35 AM:

" Someone help me out here, doesn't the suspect/defendant have to make a court appearance in order for bail to be set? "

D ....... wrote on Jan 23, 2009 11:09 AM:

" Well, all in all! . We have the worst detectives and investigators in southeast az it's almost impossible to rely on there investigations and hoping their minds are truly caring for the case!!! It will be interesting to see what the real outcome of this whole tragedy reveals. I suppose the witnessess will be the ones to solve this case! until then, we should hope for real justice whom ever is at fault! What a waste of lives! "

Team520 wrote on Jan 23, 2009 8:56 AM:

" As I stated before, the laws of equal force no longer apply anyway. In other words if they come in carrying a board, a similar weapon is all you could use but that was a long time ago. As the law states now, you may use deadly force if you reasonbly feel your life is in danger. Read the post below from AZ Law "

Update wrote on Jan 23, 2009 7:57 AM:

" I heard that they held the pre-trial yesterday, Thursday, Jan 22nd, for this guy. It might be a rumor but it would be nice if the Herald did a follow-up on this and find out if they did indeed have a pre-trial.
EDITOR'S NOTE: CCSO Sgt. Roy Cook said today Chenowth hasn't had a pre-trial hearing. County Superior Court Clerk's Office said they haven't received the case yet, and that he hasn't made any court appearances "

To D wrote on Jan 23, 2009 1:28 AM:

" If you Killed two men in cold blood . Would you lie about it ? Or lie through your teeth ? "

Cheyenne wrote on Jan 22, 2009 10:50 PM:

" To: Disgusted, Tombstone was not in existance in 1850. If two men approached you with a knife, are you suppose to drop your firearm and pull out a knife so that it is more equitable? You can if you want, I would'nt. That is a good way to end up with severe injuries or dead. Your argument/opinion is a mute point. I would rather be judged by twelve than carried by six. "

Carl wrote on Jan 22, 2009 8:25 PM:

" Why haven't we the public had an update on this story?? Just like the doctors wife story disappeared from the paper also. "

really wrote on Jan 22, 2009 2:35 PM:

" to broad daylight..... the Corbett case was screwwed up by the CCSO and the Sheriff admitted it. The detectives did a terrible job.... the sheriff admitted it. The agency has gone down hill for years and will continue to under the current administration. This case is just another step of poor work. "

To Disgusted wrote on Jan 22, 2009 2:34 PM:

" So if 2 men decided to attack you with a wooden board and your only options were to shoot them or drop the gun and try and fight them, you would drop the gun and attempt to fend them off with your bare hands? Your argument is absurd. "

Disgusted wrote on Jan 22, 2009 1:01 PM:

" No raw emotions here - just empathy for the families. It appears you missed my point; a point which clearly some people cannot comprehend. It seems simple to me that Chenowith used unjustified force given that the two deceased men didn't have loaded weapons. As I reminder, we aren't living in the days of old Tombstone and it's 2009 not 1850. "

This dog wrote on Jan 21, 2009 6:08 PM:

" did not just go on the man's property and try to bit him unless it was rabid. Pet dogs will run if yelled at, there is no reason this man had to shoot the dog. And then 2 people? Come on - let's put the guns away! "

To D wrote on Jan 21, 2009 2:57 PM:

" D said " Were was the dog shot , was the shot in front or the hind ? Is gunpowder on the fur , or burnt fur ? When were the police notified ? By whom ? Were the men shot front or hind is their gunpowder or burns on the cloths ?"

Ummm... I bet a .22 handgun isn't going to leave a lot of powder residue, much less "burnt fur". Too many television detective shows for you... ;) "

More AZ Law... wrote on Jan 21, 2009 2:19 PM:

" B. There is no duty to retreat before threatening or using PHYSICAL FORCE OR deadly physical force justified by subsection A of this section.

C. A person is presumed to be acting reasonably for the purposes of this section if he THE PERSON is acting to prevent the commission of any of the offenses listed in subsection A of this section.

D. THIS SECTION IS NOT LIMITED TO THE USE OR THREATENED USE OF PHYSICAL OR DEADLY PHYSICAL FORCE IN A PERSON'S HOME, RESIDENCE, PLACE OF BUSINESS, LAND THE PERSON OWNS OR LEASES, CONVEYANCE OF ANY KIND, OR ANY OTHER PLACE IN THIS STATE WHERE A PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO BE. "

AZ Law says wrote on Jan 21, 2009 2:18 PM:

" 13-411. Justification; use of force in crime prevention; applicability

A. A person is justified in threatening or using both physical force and deadly physical force against another if and to the extent the person reasonably believes that physical force or deadly physical force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's commission of arson of an occupied structure under section 13-1704, burglary in the second or first degree under section 13-1507 or 13-1508, kidnapping under section 13-1304, manslaughter under section 13-1103, second or first degree murder under section 13-1104 or 13-1105, sexual conduct with a minor under section 13-1405, sexual assault under section 13-1406, child molestation under section 13-1410, armed robbery under section 13-1904, or aggravated assault under section 13-1204, subsection A, paragraphs 1 and 2. "

Clear Head wrote on Jan 21, 2009 2:15 PM:

" While the "self-defense" vs. "Murder" arguement rages, it does seem somewhat significant that bail was set at $2 Million. Given the weak report by the Herald on this incident, it would seem a fair guess that much more was not reported. I find it difficult to believe that a $2M bond would be impossed for a self-defense shooting. "

To Disgusted wrote on Jan 21, 2009 11:05 AM:

" You are missing the entire point......it isn't about heart and feelings, it is about laws and that is why we have court systems. I sure would hate to have you serve on a jury with all those emotions coming in to play. "

To Disgusted wrote on Jan 21, 2009 11:00 AM:

" First of all, no one in my family would go into another persons yard and beat them with a plank. It doesn't really matter how anyone else would feel. These two were beating a man and might have killed him on his own property. what would you have done. "

The other foot wrote on Jan 21, 2009 10:46 AM:

" If it had been the other way around and they would have beat Mr. Chenowth to death, would people still be screaming murder? They entered Mr. Chenowth’s property with the intent to do bodily harm and he defended himself with the amount of force he felt was necessary. If I am outnumbered two to one and am being attacked with a wooden board I would likely also be fearing for my life and take any steps necessary to defend myself. He didn’t seek these two men out to shoot them, they sought him out armed with bad intentions... "

GODs Love wrote on Jan 21, 2009 10:44 AM:

" Look the 51 year old man should have had a fence to keep animals out of his yard. If he was their landlord it was his responsibility to make sure the fence was secure for the dog. Landlords are required to keep their places up to standard. God Bless the families of the victims as they go thru this trial and it never is easy to say goodbye to a loved one. "

RWE wrote on Jan 21, 2009 10:23 AM:

" Sounds like self defense, but, I wasn't there. Of course it seems that most of you would have rather seen the guy beat to death by these other two. "

Disgusted wrote on Jan 21, 2009 10:19 AM:

" I wonder what the tone of these "supporters" of the murderer would be if it were thier family member (son, daughter, father, mother) or friend and dog that had been killed in cold blood. I'd bet my next ten paychecks that you all would be singing a different tune.
Get off your pompous high horses and get in touch with reality and your heart.
If you truly have one. "

To friend of fam wrote on Jan 21, 2009 10:00 AM:

" Were the dead in THEIR yard? Was it two ARMED (a club is a weapon) YOUNGER men against ONE? Then the victim’s attackers were killed during their CRIME in SELF-DEFENSE, the two criminals were NOT “murdered”. The criminals attacked an innocent man because they thought they could behave as the pleased and they were proven to be wrong. Stupidity should be painful, this time it proved fatal. We should let the REAL victim go home. "

To Animal Lover wrote on Jan 21, 2009 7:43 AM:

" If the owner REALLY loved his dog, he would have obeyed the LAW, and had the dog contained or on leash. PERIOD! The property owned acted according to the law, even WARNING the owner of the consequences before the dog was harmed. When TWO men, both YOUNGER than the INTENDED VICTIM, chose to ATTACK the one obeying the law ON HIS OWN PROPERTY, the INTENDED VICTIM had every right to stop the ARMED CRIMINAL ATTACK. Why didn’t the dog’s owner stay in his house and call the sheriff department? Self defense is WELL worth shooting the criminals. "

God Bless the victims wrote on Jan 21, 2009 7:41 AM:

" I see the old man needs to serve some time in the prison system and may he suffer with the realization that he took 2 human lives and a father to a son who will never see his father again. I see some of you as non animal lovers by your views. God Bless the Victims and the dog who was a loving pet to this young man, "

Nice Man wrote on Jan 21, 2009 5:57 AM:

" Based on court records, I don't know if one can honestly call someone with a background of criminal damage and assault a "nice man". It sounds like a long term criminal and another man who was headed down that path met their fate while pursuing not so nice activity. "

friend of fam wrote on Jan 20, 2009 11:36 PM:

" THIS IS WHEN DEADLY FORCE IS JUSTIFIED:
13-405. Justification; use of deadly physical force

A person is justified in threatening or using deadly physical force against another:
1. If such person would be justified in threatening or using physical force against the other under section 13-404, and
2. When and to the degree a reasonable person would believe that deadly physical force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly physical force.

GOT IT?? "

friend of fam wrote on Jan 20, 2009 11:10 PM:

" Please, all, please let the families have some peace. Please consider that your comments are being read by the families. Please think: if this were my loved one who was so brutally murdered, if this were my brother, father, child, how would I feel, first about this traumatic event, next about how many are "blaming the victims," and think about how frustrating it is to not be able to respond with facts they know as victims, which would show the truth of this horrible homicide. Let justice be found for these victims. "

to Reality wrote on Jan 20, 2009 10:46 PM:

" How often do you hear of a $2million bond in self defense cases? I don't think that sounds too clear cut to me and hopefully not the end to the details we get on this story. Then maybe some fact based comments can be posted on a true account of the incident. "

Reality wrote on Jan 20, 2009 8:32 PM:

" If this goes to trial he will be found not guilty, first off the dog was attacking him, and he did what most of us would do, shoot the mutt, Then his owner along with a friend decided they were going to teach him a lesson, and he did what most of us would do, defend ourselves from TWO men with clubs. The end. "

Common Sense wrote on Jan 20, 2009 8:23 PM:

" The way this story reads the man acted in self defense. Two men against one and armed with a wood plank. They obviously hit him otherwise it would not be the past tense verb of assualted nor would he have made a trip to the hospital before going to lock up. This really has nothing to do with the dog because the law sides with the man currently sitting in jail for not allowing himself to be beaten. It is the pet owners responsibility to control their pets. Stray dogs on private property can be shot. "

To Animal Lover..... wrote on Jan 20, 2009 4:13 PM:

" So, the guy that warns them to keep the dog off of his property should build a fence to keep someone else's pet out? Why not go ahead and build him a dog house too and pay for all his food? It is the owners responsibility and when they came over with a board in hand they just wanted to talk I guess as well. "

TO ANIMAL LOVER wrote on Jan 20, 2009 1:49 PM:

" You've got to be kidding! Build a fence to keep the dog OUT of your yard?!No-a fence keeps your dog IN YOUR YARD! I agree it is sad that two men are dead and I feel for the families, but a dog is just that --a dog! And in MY OPINION, a dog trying to bite is attacking. Shooting someone beating you with anything is self defense. This bantering back and forth could go on forever. Let the justice system figure it out. "

to animal lover wrote on Jan 20, 2009 1:06 PM:

" Why should anyone have to build a fence to keep someone else’s dog off their property? It is an owner’s responsibility to control their animal, not the rest of the communities. "

Animal lover and value human life wrote on Jan 20, 2009 12:01 PM:

" I have looked at all the news articles on this. The 51 yr old had threatened to shoot and kill this dog if he came on his property again. The two men may have been there to get their dog. The 51 yr old man needs time in prison. To me that shows pre-meditation on the 51 yr old. Also, build a fence so the dog can't get near your yard. I feel for all the victims in this tragic deaths of not only the 2 men but, the innocent dog. God Bless you! "

To simply me wrote on Jan 20, 2009 10:28 AM:

" if a dog is trying to bite you wouldnt you consider that attacking? nowhere did it say he was carrying a gun in his hand. you have the right to carry a firearm exposed on your person in public and concealed on your private property without a permit. read the comments below and realize that if you fear injury you can shoot. obviously he was outside prior to the attacking dog and the assault on him. simplyme, simpleminded. "

Team520 wrote on Jan 20, 2009 8:16 AM:

" Not many dispute that it is a tragedy but Self Defense is just that. If he felt that his life was in danger he may use any force needed to preserve his own...period!!! Read and understand the law. The past law of equal forces no longer applies in the State of Arizona. "

suffering wrote on Jan 20, 2009 1:17 AM:

" thomas rand was a great man and he would never do something to hurt someone. to those of you who think it was self defense and think that makes it right are completely wrong. no matter if it was self defense, it doesn't make it right! TWO men are dead! the victims families and friends are forever changed because of this guy. "

simplyme wrote on Jan 19, 2009 9:33 PM:

" I think in this case the dog and families are the real victims. "

simplyme wrote on Jan 19, 2009 8:58 PM:

" Hmmm, first of all where does it say the dog was "attacking"? The dog was Supposedly trying to bite. But the man is outside with a gun in his hand and the law states you can defend yourself with a weapon if your life is in danger. If he felt he was in danger why didn't he stay in the house with his gun and call the cops? "

Want some prison time for this wrote on Jan 19, 2009 3:04 PM:

" Lets say why was 51 Darryl Chenowth carrying a weapon and did he fire it before killing the dog? If a dog feels threatened with a gun they will attack just nature of self defense. "

angels for justice for the victims who died wrote on Jan 19, 2009 12:59 PM:

" There could have been a lot of witnesses that saw the event. It was a neighborhood shooting. Think about that. Their is more then one witness, "

Teen Angels for Justice wrote on Jan 19, 2009 12:54 PM:

" If you shoot and kill someone you pay the price of prison and the death penalty. This dog to this young man was part of his family. Maybe the young man heard the shot fired at his dog and the stick was with him in case he needed it to help the man who killed him. It is about time that older men need to pay for using a gun. You send young people to prison for using a gun. May justice be served in this case and take the old man's guns away. "

Joe wrote on Jan 19, 2009 11:20 AM:

" There is so much bad press coverege this paper is not worth reading. "

tsk wrote on Jan 19, 2009 6:53 AM:

" None of the commentors below were there. All anyone knows was gathered from the media, which everyone knows to be an unreliable source of information.
From the Herald article, a man was attacked on his property, he responded. 3 dead. That is all anyone knows. All else is speculation. "

Warning Shots are Hollywood wrote on Jan 19, 2009 5:25 AM:

" Use of warning shots is only a Hollywood movie myth, and wastes ammunition that may be needed to stop an attacker. Obviously, there are too many unanswered questions regarding this issue. It is time for the investigation and re-evaluation of a $2 million bond! That seems excessive for someone who seems to be an established member of the community and a shooting that MAY have been a self defense case. "

to Brenda wrote on Jan 19, 2009 1:11 AM:

" You cannot possibly compare this dog to someone's child!How stupid is that.If the dog was attacking then the dog deserved to be shot.Period.As for the two men,I don't know, I wasn't there.But attack me with a plank/club and I have a gun, chances are someone will get shot.I have to defend myself and aiming will not be my priority.I'm not saying that they deserved to die but the other man may not have deserved to be beat with a club either.Hopefully the answers will come with the investigation.My sympathies to the all the families. "

Come on wrote on Jan 19, 2009 12:14 AM:

" ANYTHING in someone’s hand can be used as a weapon. You intend to use it as such, and assault someone (WELL). WE all have the right to protect ourselves in any means for survival, do what it takes to make it out of the situation. DUH! Who were the aggressors here? Second, the two males killed why didn’t they go call the CCSO if they were in such good character? Third, if the 2 individuals contained their dog in the first place they would still be alive. We can do this all day. A warning shot bad choice. "

Come on wrote on Jan 18, 2009 11:37 PM:

" Broad Daylight, I support BP. The People of Southeastern Az, are tired of the problems of Illegals.. Right now BP 1st priority is Terrorism (mission Statement). How many terrorists has BP caught... ZERO.. With 4100 BP Agents alone in AZ, and nothing has truly changed. Lets talk about the drive thru in Douglas of 2 pickups that cut the Brand New Border Fence around 9.2 off border rd. That never made the news and that was just over a week ago. TAXPAYERS wake up. sorry off subject people. "

Fat Murphy wrote on Jan 18, 2009 8:51 PM:

" BRENDA, a board (CLUB) is considered a deadly weapon. AZ law for the use of deadly force does not allow warning shots or shooting to wound in cases with people. He could of legally fired a warning shot when the dog attacked him. If you fear severe bodily injury or death, and use a firearm, you shoot to stop the threat. Period. Hopefully CCSO will release their findings soon and maybe the SVH will have a following article on this. "

D wrote on Jan 18, 2009 6:42 PM:

" Were was the dog shot , was the shot in front or the hind ? Is gunpowder on the fur , or burnt fur ? When were the police notified ? By whom ? Were the men shot front or hind is their gunpowder or burns on the cloths ? It smells like a bully to be . But I was not there ! God be with the family's ! "

in broad daylight wrote on Jan 18, 2009 5:17 PM:

" dear "Come on": Corbett's juries keep hanging because they can't find an unbiased jury in Southern Arizona. That's not the prosecutors' or the sheriff's fault. The taxpayers, i.e. you, have the CCSO to thank for not just red tagging Dominguez-Rivera, then immediately clearing the scene of his killing. They're one of the only reasons that case ever saw the light of day, and that's what the taxpayers pay them to do. I mean, come on, you saw the video, right? "

Come on wrote on Jan 18, 2009 2:47 PM:

" Oh Great, sounds like the County Attorney is looking for a way to reimburse the Taxpayers Of Cochise Co. for the Corbett case. Are we ready for the NEW Corbett case of 2009? I say Come on 2 Million for Bail. Now the CCSO will be quiet on this case do to the poorly trained Dectective work on the Corbett case. They just finished washing the mud off their faces on that case. They just passed Dectective training 101 "Keep mouths shout until you work through all facts and evidence." Thumbs Up Dectectives!! "

sv herald story wrote on Jan 18, 2009 1:03 PM:

" we the readers get our info from the paper, if the paper doesn't release all the known info how is that our fault. your issues are with the sv herald not your neighbors. ask the powers that be at the sv herald to refrain from printing half truths in the future. "

Brenda wrote on Jan 18, 2009 11:50 AM:

" I don't think that shooting someone who has a board as a weapon is justified. I think if they still came at him after he fired into the air, then maybe it would justify shooting to wound. The young man was probably in a state of shock, his loving pet was just killed. If it were your child or loved one I am sure you would be angry. I am not saying the young man was justified. I am just saying that everything that happened was in the heat of the moment. Now two people and a pet are dead. "

Amazed wrote on Jan 18, 2009 9:59 AM:

" Wow! How many people are willing to voice opinions without facts to support it? This story has more holes than swiss cheese and people are willling to rally despite that. And we wonder what is wrong with our society! I have been watching this same attitude through tons of blogs and it cracks me up! Do you go through your entire life getting one side or half the story and basing an opinion from that limited view? Yikes people - educate yourselves and open up your narrow view of the things! Then post an educated argument. "

To Dog Lover wrote on Jan 18, 2009 9:22 AM:

" Yes, Leo must have loved his Dog. The dog is actually in both of the pictures in the obit. So sad. God be with the family. "

Dog Lover 2 wrote on Jan 18, 2009 8:05 AM:

" The dog in the obits appears to be predominately pit bull. Pit bulls are KNOWN for attacking and killing human beings. "

Dog lover wrote on Jan 17, 2009 8:53 PM:

" He must have loved his dog, the dogs picture is in the obits along with his. "

self-incriminated wrote on Jan 17, 2009 5:40 PM:

" The only witnesses to the alleged murderer's acts are dead. Hopefully the sheriff's office investigating believe this act to be wrong and will find the evidence to prove it rather than sweep it under the rug like some want to do calling it self-defense. Obviously, the facts the alleged murderer stated were sufficient to warrant a murder charge and not self-defense. "

All comments below wrote on Jan 17, 2009 5:08 PM:

" It blows my mind that you people are still passing judgement on a situation you know nothing about. None of you "finger-pointers" know all the facts in the case and are still running your mouths. People died here, someones son, brother and friend. Feel free to point those fingers when you have all the facts of what really happened. "

To Get real wrote on Jan 17, 2009 3:06 PM:

" If Leo truly loved his dog as you profess, he should have had a fence up to contain the dog. A good fence is protection for the animal and the owner. Unfortunately folks are only "oh so sorry!" after an incident. In this case, Leo cannot be sorry. Anyone who lets their dogs run loose should learn a lesson. "

To Hey wrote on Jan 17, 2009 8:36 AM:

" You are very rude. Peoples lives were lost and you are making a poor joke. "

ewc wrote on Jan 17, 2009 12:29 AM:

" ”morons get education” needs to read Arizona State Law, Title 13-411, 13-418 A, B. We law abiding citizens who wish not to be some scum bags victim and chose to defend ourselves DO have the RIGHT to defend ourselves with DEADLY FORCE. If you don’t want to defend yourself, let all the criminals go to your house and have a party on your head. You have the RIGHT to not defend yourself, good luck with that. "

Hey wrote on Jan 16, 2009 8:27 PM:

" Never take a stick to a gunfight. "

Bad Press wrote on Jan 16, 2009 8:22 PM:

" Have to be honest, the article does not give a whole lot of detail as to this incident. However, a two miilion dollar bail has to say alot about what the Judge felt based upon what evidence was given, thus far. Public needs more information SV Herald "

court records wrote on Jan 16, 2009 7:48 PM:

" as the news article states they were on the mans property and assaulted him with a board. If you were not there you also do not know the whole story. we all need to think things through before acting in an unsafe manner, there are a lot of really crazy people in this world and you never know when you make a decision to confront someone what the outcome will be. if you are uncomfortable with the comments do not read the blog. "

Not guilty wrote on Jan 16, 2009 2:58 PM:

" Only one witness left, and it will be another waste of money to prosecute this. "

To court records wrote on Jan 16, 2009 1:32 PM:

" You should stop pointing your fingers unless you know all the facts of the case. You do not know the back story or even what happened that night. So you have no idea if and who acted "stupidly" that night. "

court records wrote on Jan 16, 2009 1:15 AM:

" to a friend, yes he was your friend, yes he put himself in a position by going on this mans property with a board and assualting him, to be harmed. Why did Thomas and Leonardo not call the police and get them involved in the dog shooting? They made a stupid, deadly decision and they paid for that decision with their life, sorry to say, condolences to the family. This should teach everyone to think before they react stupidly. "

Linda wrote on Jan 15, 2009 3:24 PM:

" I forgot to mention the name of my former son-in-law it was Thomas Rand and I am so sorry for the family. Hoping his two children can deal with their loss of a father. I really believe there is more to this story than was published and hope law enforcement does a good job of investigating.. "

Linda wrote on Jan 15, 2009 2:57 PM:

" This was my former son-in-law and I am so sorry for the family. Hoping hi9s two children can deal with their loss of a father. "

Judgement wrote on Jan 15, 2009 12:32 PM:

" I don't understand how the readers can come to a conclusion on this, especially when the newspaper failed to report ALL of the facts. There's a reason that a bail bond was set so high and he is currently in jail. "

Mistaken court records wrote on Jan 15, 2009 11:31 AM:

" Nooooooo,in Cochise county?! Nine or ninety-nine- faliure to comply shows a pattern. Have you lived with problem tenants? Ever tried to get one out of your property. This was ongoing, and it sounds like the guy felt no other way out. Be grateful you haven't had to make this sort of decision. "

To morons get education wrote on Jan 15, 2009 10:40 AM:

" Your ID fits you and several others making comments here. There has been NO official report. Your statements have no basis unless you were there. I do agree with a sensible person would have called the law after the dog was killed. Apparently the two men with a deadly weapon were not sensible as they proceed to escalate the violence by assaulting Chenowth. Also you question peoples education because there opinions/views differ from yours. That is the 1st amendment at work! BTW, your village is calling you to come home. "

Brenda wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:50 AM:

" Sounds like a feud has come to an end. Why can't people take care of problems with their neighbors, before it escalates into this horrilbe tragedy? Once again, there are many victims, both families will have to suffer the consequences.

I pray for them all. "

Personal Responsibility wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:43 AM:

" To what I want to Know: That was an example (the knee), Since he was arrested, there must be more to the story than we are getting here. Obviously he is stating he was assaulted then defended himself. We will probably never know what "REALLY" happened. "

To very sad wrote on Jan 15, 2009 1:18 AM:

" How do you know they were shot in the back? Are you privy to the autopsies and CCSO reports? Or are you just running your mouth? Yes, it sucks, but maybe justice was served? BTW it doesnt matter if a person has a history. If you had problems with law enforcement in the past would you stand there being beaten and worry what people think. I do not believe anyone would. The facts are not known yet. "

morons get education wrote on Jan 14, 2009 11:59 PM:

" Chenowth was the Landlord of the 2 men he killed. Obviously, he isn't that smart as he killed his customers/tenants. You do not kill people you are in a dispute with-period. A sensible person would have called the sheriff after killing the dog, assuming even that was necessary, and went inside his home. It's said only 25% hold a college degree, most of the rest still need educated as they think they live in the 1880s. Sad to kill your own neighbors, and some morons boast they'd do the same; I hope they are not my "neighbor." "

Mollie wrote on Jan 14, 2009 11:04 PM:

" I cant believe that you people can make such statements without even knowing the story or all the facts of the case. I knew Leonardo very well and he was a great kid. No matter what these people had in their pasts, they were murdered. I hope that justice is served. I will always remember my friend fondly. "

what I want to know wrote on Jan 14, 2009 10:37 PM:

" To: PersonalResponsibility I am asking why would two guys hit one man with a gun "on the knee"? It doesn't make sense... "

verysad wrote on Jan 14, 2009 9:21 PM:

" To all of you people disputing over these deaths. All in all two people are dead and our lives will never be the same without them. But to me when someone is shot from behind I don't know if I would call that self defense. And for the dog being on his property how can you say they are truspassing when they live on your property. It all sucks and I hope Justice is served. "

bisbee wrote on Jan 14, 2009 7:18 PM:

" Tommy rand was a good man. Im sure there is more to the story then we know at this point. I beleive in useing guns when necessary. I dont think the truth is out yet. "

to two idiots wrote on Jan 14, 2009 5:50 PM:

" I am whetstone...I read the story on both papers websites and found that in the Tucson paper they mention the fact that these victims threatened the mans cattle and home...the SV Herald did not. That to me is significant. Please read both accounts. "

to-wondering wrote on Jan 14, 2009 5:05 PM:

" to-wondering
try thiswww.supreme.state.az.us/publicaccess/
just put in the court and name or if you don't know the court use all "

A friend wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:50 PM:

" To court records, Tommy did not have 99 failure to appears. If you look up at public access there is a typo error. It shows 253 failure to appears on the same date of 02-26-07. How could that be. It just shows how people in this community like to talk and make stuff up. Tommy was a good friend of mine and of many people and he was a good guy. May he rest in peace and he will always have a special place in many of our hearts. "

sadfor the dead wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:21 PM:

" look up the court records of mr.chenowth and ask his neighbors what kinda guy he was "

ConcernedPatron wrote on Jan 14, 2009 2:32 PM:

" Unless they had already tried to hit me, ihave used deadly force. But if they had a record of trying to harm this man previously it is a case of self-defense. Alas i am not that violent a person but if i truly felt like they would kill me than i would have protected myself with utmost and extreme prejudice. It this was a habitual thing, maybe the accused could have called 911, but if they were breaking the door down then.....use thedeadly force. There are so many fine gray line here....issues that e all obviously do not know firsthand!! "

Elite wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:58 PM:

" I agree with those that say we need more info in this article.
What kind of dog was it?
If it was a small dog like a Chihuahua, then shame on that man for being scared of such a critter. If it was a 60 pound Rot then by all mean shot the beast. I also agree with "lackofsupport" if the man lives in the boondocks then just like people have a first aid kit on standby for medical emergencies, I would have a gun on standby for protection. "

ELITE wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:09 PM:

" To morons get education
The plank on the knee was just an example. I would think if there are two men, I'm already out numbered, then add a weapon that could cause damage even death if hit upside the head. I would probably grab my gun as I call the police. I would enform the men of there options. Leave or be shot. "

for chandi wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:03 PM:

" I am sure the dog is not "just a dog" as you so eloquently put it. Anyone came near my dogs with the intent to harm them, I can guarantee the outcome would not be "politically correct." From a doglover. "

wondering... wrote on Jan 14, 2009 12:31 PM:

" How does one go about finding court records of these people?? "

SV Vet OSEAS wrote on Jan 14, 2009 12:22 PM:

" I see there are a lot of Bernard Geotz's here in Cochise County. We only know what we have read in the Herald (and some of you know the prime players personally). I agree to the right of self defense, but that defense has several layers to it. Let's see what happens after the investigation. I agree with an earlier comment, I hope CCSD does a better job investigating this one than it did with the Border Patrol Agent. "

sad neighbor wrote on Jan 14, 2009 10:58 AM:

" For those of you posters who don't know all the players--keep your traps shut! No, this was not a case of self-defense! It's a case of a loose cannon. I'm surprised something of this nature has not happened sooner. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key, this way our quiet little town doen't have to worry any more. My condolences to the families of the victims. "

lackofsupport wrote on Jan 14, 2009 10:28 AM:

" We are a large, rural county, it can take up to 1 1/2 hours for a sheriff deputy to arrive at your place when you call for help. Citizens are forced to handle situations so much differently than in the city. In the city you may have an officer arrive while you are being assulted by a board, in the country you could be dead and cold before an officer gets to you. Self defense/ self preservation, whether Mr. Chenowth is "different" or not, he had the right to protect himself, if he was in fear for his life! "

To two idiots wrote on Jan 14, 2009 9:17 AM:

" If you use the Herald for your source of information on most things, you are not that informed. "

To morons... wrote on Jan 14, 2009 8:44 AM:

" If you feel your life is in danger you have the right to use deadly force. If 2 men were intent on causing me harm and I had a gun, I would respond the same way. Knowing this guy had a gun why would these 2 guys even attempt to go and confront him? That doesn’t seem very smart to me. "

lets get all the facts wrote on Jan 14, 2009 8:35 AM:

" this sounds fishy. this guy was paranoid, why shoot and kill 2 men, if 2 men were attacking you, how would you shoot both? all the facts need to come out. "

Team520 wrote on Jan 14, 2009 8:03 AM:

" Maybe some of you need to learn the law.......Assault in the State of Arizona is very broad and basically someone could throw their hand back and act as if they are going to hit you and if you flinch it's Assault. If he felt his life was in danger, then he has a right to use deadly force. The pyramid method of matching force is no longer applicable, it is about the person perception. "

Fat Murphy wrote on Jan 14, 2009 7:39 AM:

" To: Chandi-morons get education, If you are in danger of serious injury or death you have the RIGHT to use deadly force to protect yourself. A board over the knee is serious injury. Have'nt you ever heard about taking a ball bat to someones knee? You are spouting off an uneducated opinion on self defense laws. Chandi you need to read and comprehend the article before you make comments. The accused stated the two men were attacking him with a wood plank (club). I hope SVH will continue with a follow up story of this. "

Personal Responsibility wrote on Jan 14, 2009 7:35 AM:

" There are too many items we will never know. You can't say "he should have called the police when they knocked on his door.", do you call the police every time someone knocks on your door? If they had a weapon with them (the plank), it doesn't matter if they only hit him in the knee, they obviously brought a board to a gun fight. He was arrested, more will come out. "

HC Resident wrote on Jan 14, 2009 7:14 AM:

" Makes no difference if you have a gun or a hammer!! Self defense is self defense. I'd have blown them away too. Don't bring a wooden plank to a gunfight!! "

two idiots wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:56 PM:

" "Whetstone" congratulates "Ryan" for bashing the SV Herald for omission(?) of facts. I compared the stories. NO significant difference. I learned about this information FIRST by reading the Herald.
Thanks Herald. You are my first and best source of information. "

Chandi wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:50 PM:

" To shoot two men for a dog is wrong. Justice will prevail that why we have police to call to handle all situations. You can't take a life for a dog attempting to bite someone. That man has already killed the dog why two men. He could of called the police but to kill in cold blood is not the answer. God be with the families of all involved. God onlly knows what this man intentions were. Fact is he should have called the law. He did wrong as simple as that. "

morons get education wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:38 PM:

" Lots of morons here spouting off on emotions. You do not have a right to use deadly force with a weapon if your life is not in danger. A board over a knee is not life threatening. If this were the case, well why not just end every bar brawl with murder. You can not become judge and jury with a gun over a dog. Hopefully none of you morons will be on the jury. This is one case I hope the County Attorney will prosecute. "

Fat Murphy wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:19 PM:

" No this is not a case of self defense. This is a case of shooting to end a threat. Was the threat real? That is the question. If a dog tried to bite me on my property I would consider the dog attacking. I would shoot it. If the owner and his friend came at me with a club, that is what the plank is, threatening to hit me, I would exercise my right to preserve my well being. If CCSD does their job they will determine if the shootings were justifiable. "

court records wrote on Jan 13, 2009 10:45 PM:

" Look up the records of Thomas Rand, he was no stranger to the court system. 99 counts of failure to comply and harrasement and intimidation charges, domestic violence. Leonardo Rivera also no choir boy, drug charges, possesion, transportation to sell, misconduct involving a weapon. "

what I want to know wrote on Jan 13, 2009 8:08 PM:

" Too many questions remain, why would two men have only one board? Why hit a guy with a gun in the knee? Wouldn't the hand with the gun be better, or the head maybe to knock him out? Unless they were on the ground already? Why not call the cops if they were really beating on his door? How close and what angles were these guys shot? Since KGUN9 said Chenowth's family were the landlords why not just have them evicted? This is not a simple case of self-defense. "

Carl wrote on Jan 13, 2009 7:20 PM:

" Go Cochise County waste another couple hundred thousand dollars trying to convict and inocent man. Just like the Corbet case, self defense period "

ConcernedPatron wrote on Jan 13, 2009 6:05 PM:

" For the full news about this issue. You should listen to the Tucson stations that have made inquiries about what led up to this trajedy. SV Herald obviously does not get all the information from the county or other witnesses like the Tucson media does get more of the details leading up to this matter. Don't get disgruntled about the Herald not getting more details, it is trivial to do so. A reporter can only get so much co-operation with the those providing the details over the phone or newslines. "

knowdarryl wrote on Jan 13, 2009 5:48 PM:

" Law Enforcement and Darryl Chenowth are not strangers to one another. I wasn't there and don't know what happened, but the thought of Mr. Chenowth in possession of a firearm should scare any one that has ever conversed with him. I only hope the investigation is conducted more profesionally and thoroughly than the one done on the Corbett incident. We'll see. "

Chelle wrote on Jan 13, 2009 5:10 PM:

" We will never know the real story. Two men are dead and all we can go by is this idiot that shot an killed two lives. There is two sides of every story and this is a one sided story. No one can make a judgement off this. Either way two precious lives were lost and their families will suffer for this mans disturbing decision of ignorance. "

wow wrote on Jan 13, 2009 4:18 PM:

" I am sorry for the lives lost BUT if someone's dog came after me or my children on MY property you are darn skippy this mom will pull out her .22 and take care of the problem and if these owners then came after me or my children you betcha this mom will again pull out her .22 and take care of business, it's time we took back what we have earned so hard to get... My condolensces to these families, all 3 "

Mike wrote on Jan 13, 2009 3:47 PM:

" Inside Scoop, you are briliant, sure, he should have let them beat him with a piece of wood, why not, he should have just stood there and took it I guess, ....Get real. "

whetstone wrote on Jan 13, 2009 3:18 PM:

" inside scoop...try looking up the so-called victims...when was the last time they were in trouble??? Don't be so quick to pass judgement. "

whetstone wrote on Jan 13, 2009 3:06 PM:

" inside scoop...how long ago did they deal with him?? Does it mean if he did something 8 years ago, he's a bad guy today?? "

whetstone wrote on Jan 13, 2009 2:36 PM:

" Right you are Ryan...SVHerald does not print all the facts known in this story. "

whetstone wrote on Jan 13, 2009 2:29 PM:

" When you are attacked on your own property you have the consitutional right to protect yourself. A dog attack or a wooden plank to the head can kill. Sounds like self defense to me. "

dc wrote on Jan 13, 2009 2:23 PM:

" No comment needed.... the article speaks for itself regarding our current system of "justice". By the way there is a difference between the law and justice. "

Ryan wrote on Jan 13, 2009 1:33 PM:

" Again - SV Herald does not print ALL the facts...

www.azstarnet.com/metro/275663 "

AzLuna wrote on Jan 13, 2009 1:07 PM:

" In any event, someone should have the right to defend themselves against an attacking animal, and also defend themselves against the owners of the attacking animal. I would have done the same thing. "

AzLuna wrote on Jan 13, 2009 1:05 PM:

" Ok...I'm assuming that the two males were killed during the altercation, thus resulting in the two counts of murder, because, the only death that is mentioned is that of the dog..... "

Wow wrote on Jan 13, 2009 1:00 PM:

" It should not be possible for every idiot to get a gun. "

inside scoop wrote on Jan 13, 2009 12:35 PM:

" Hey people MURDER is MURDER no matter how you look at it. Has anyone ever heard TWO wrongs don't make a right? Taking thelaw inyour own hands- not a wise decision. Plus- the CCSO has delt with this guy before. "

Pete wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:26 AM:

" Like I always said the court system in this country is a JOKE. If someone comes on my property and starts beating me with a wooden plank I would blow them to kingdom come also. "

Bill wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:17 AM:

" It is self defense but why would you want to intentionally kill 2 people especially if they dont have guns??? "

Steve-O wrote on Jan 13, 2009 10:23 AM:

" Sounds like self - defense to me. I was on a grand jury a couple of years back. We had a fellow who was brought up on charges of murder for defending his home. Hopefully this gentleman's grand jury will see the same light. "

Wow wrote on Jan 13, 2009 10:17 AM:

" So if I am assulted, and on my own property no less, I should just let them hurt/kill me? I'm not allowed to defend myself? I knew the economy was in bad shape but looks like the justice system is even worse! See why I didn't vote for Dever. God help anyone who is attaced and defends himself. The law isn't on your side. "

SEAZGuy wrote on Jan 13, 2009 9:06 AM:

" I wonder if the two men killed would tell the same story. Shooting a dog that "tired to bite" is not the same as shooting a dog that is attacking. Did he shoot the dog to protect himself or did he do it because it was a menacing annoyance? Similarly, were both men attacking him? If not, why did he shoot both? Were the two men themselves acting in self-defense upon being threatened with the .22 handgun when they went to inquire about the dog? The same facts reported here could fit with a completely different story. "

Pathetic wrote on Jan 13, 2009 8:59 AM:

" I can not believe, based on the facts provided by the Herald, that law enforcement have arrested this man! He is attacked by an animal and the owners and defends himself, but ends up in jail? Where is the justice in that? I feel bad for the families of the two other men, but more so for Mr. Chenowth's family and the future they will have to deal with. "

Get real wrote on Jan 13, 2009 8:11 AM:

" For one, if you walk around old Bisbee you see Leo carrying around his dog because why, he loved his dog, and if someone killed my dog, I would beat them as well. If the man had a gun all he had to do was threaten the men, they were no killers and I thought that is why we put Michael Vick behind bars, to protect animals. You all are sick! "

Lee wrote on Jan 13, 2009 6:32 AM:

" I guess since this guy it not "one of the choosen" he will have to pay the piper for what sounds like a simple case of self defense. "

Mae wrote on Jan 13, 2009 6:01 AM:

" 2 million, hmmm someone that sounds like the facts point to self defense has a bond that few in Cochise County get. Like the gangs in SV never get bonds that high when they kill or shoot someone. Isn't that strange. if the man was being biten by a dog not kept on his own property should have the right to shoot it without the owners being angry at anyone but themselves for not containing thier animals. so had do right going over to beat up the man, do you think they guy should not protect himself from them "

Justice wrote on Jan 13, 2009 5:53 AM:

" Looks like self defense to me. On his property dog tried to bite him, dog got shot, They assulted him, they got shot. "