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Dec. 19

You see Ron White every day more and more. You can’t fix stupid. Now there’s a sign up at the Main Gate saying “Don’t Block Intersection.” It’s against the law. It’s always been against the law, people. Just like when you try to creep up to make a left-hand turn and you wind up in the intersection. It’s against the law. If an emergency vehicle was to come by he’s got to go around you. What if your loved one needed the ambulance? Wait for the arrow. Stay out of the intersection. Have a good Christmas. You can’t fix stupid.

I love seeing the old world Santas in the park this time of year. I think it’s wonderful the Christmas spirit they generate. I hope the city council will decide to have the artists do some more. I enjoy the Santas in the park.

Dec. 20

I had a meal yesterday at a local restaurant. I ordered a steak and baked potato to go. When I got home I opened the potato and there was a worm inside. I called and complained. They said the manager would get back to me. They never returned my call. I never got a free meal. What did I get? No response. I don’t think people should eat there.

I am surprised that Mr. (Neil) Barrett used the term progressive and not liberal, communist, or socialist in his letter to the editor. He also insinuates he is the one in the know and the purveyor of great wisdom and truth. Not. Nonetheless, the Bush legacy is pretty foul. To tout him as the great liberator borders on the ridiculous. Bush is not just the worst president in American history; he is the worst president ever, of anything at any time. Next he will be telling us what a great financial manager Bush has been. I don’t buy it. The majority of Americans don’t buy it. Lying simply will not work like it used to. We can now back-check the truth of just about anything. Throwing the shoes was not very helpful. What we need to be throwing at Bush is the book. The whole book.

The attorney general of the once fair state of California wants to deny all Californians their right to vote in a democracy in order to protect a minority’s right to a nonexistent right of marriage. A few years ago a group of Mullahs in the Middle East declared that America is obsessed with sex and violence. I ridiculed that notion, but I guess I did not know how obsessed some of us have become. Next I suppose we’ll be asked to recognize the marriage of a person and a pet Dalmatian or horse or monkey. What will be next?

I would like to share this little poem with all the free thinkers in the area. From Emily. Listen to your mind, and not your heart; The pumping of blood is not an art. Not by design or purpose, intent, Were the systems of your body meant. By natural cause they came to be, just as you are, and all you see. As by nature we are discerned, From nature can our place be learned. A cousin to all that lives today. We are unique In 1 percent of our DNA.

Dec. 21

What do you mean, “buy American?” I couldn’t buy American if I wanted to. All America builds is overpriced junk anyway.

I’d like to comment about the people that during Christmas time and especially during the holiday parade complain that it’s not called the Christmas parade or any other holiday thing is not being called Christmas. I’d just like to ask if all the things done in Sierra Vista are only for Gentiles? There are other religions.

Dec. 22

The executives of the failed banks received 1.6 billion of our hard earned tax dollars as a reward for their incompetence. Sadly I think it is time for our government to get real. I sincerely hope we do not make the same mistake and reward the auto industry executives the same way. They too need to manage in a real time manner or get out of the business.

It would seem the writer complaining about this country becoming socialistic under Obama hasn’t read the meaning. Per the dictionary, there are two definitions: 1) Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy; and 2) The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved. Seems to me we have been living under a dictatorship the last eight years. We have lost so many of our freedoms under the guise of “protecting” us and now, it’s guilty until proven innocent. I’ll take the socialism I have been living under for the last 50-plus years any day over what the Bush administration has forced upon us with utter disregard of whether it is legal or not.

The state passed a law to get those people that try to hide their car state and plate numbers. Let’s see if that plastic over your plate is worth a $150 ticket!

I see that the Catholics may have helped terrorists into this country by giving them food and water. Then send them on their way. Hope they help pay back the cost of 9/11.

How come so many people like tailgating, passing and speeding in the construction zone at Nicksville?

It’s time to stop whining and crying about Obama winning the election. He won by an overwhelming majority. He’s going to be the president. Let’s get on with life and stop worrying about it. He couldn’t do worse than George W. Bush did. A handicapped monkey could do better than George Bush did.

A letter in today’s newspaper from Dave Anderson is pretty much right on the money as far as I’m concerned except for one thing. Iraq did not attack us on Sept. 11, al-Qaida did. We had no right to attack Iraq. People we should be going after like bin Laden are in Afghanistan. That’s righteous. Iraq had nothing to do with it.

This is in response to the person who has problems with the word Christmas. Saying “Merry Christmas” is as traditional as apple pie. Perceiving this as a threat to the caller’s religion demonstrates his or her ignorance and weak belief in his own religion. People have been saying “Merry Christmas” for centuries and we will continue to do so. It appears this Christmas Grinch is close to having a stroke over this. Being a fanatic over a word incites chaos. I’ll continue to say Merry Christmas every year. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Traffic safety is on my mind. I have a slogan I’d like to see put on more items like bumper stickers and driver training and it says this: “Stop back behind me so you can see where my tires meet the road. Be a good neighbor.” That slogan will encourage more people if they pay attention to stop safely and not speed so much. Thank you very much.

Now that the election is over and Barack Obama is going to be president let’s get beyond that and stop looking for petty little things to pick at about his presidency. How about we all concentrate all these efforts on trying to dig our country out of the hole that George Bush and his Republican fat cats have put us in? If all the energy was put into that we could probably solve this problem.

Obama says he is going to create 3 million new jobs. Why don’t we send the 12 million illegals back where they came from and then we’ll have 12 million new jobs? We won’t have to create any new ones.

Everyone knows there are many crimes that can be committed, including murder, manslaughter, rape, bank robbery, kidnapping, child molesting, by those illegally entering the United States, etc. And we all know that such individuals who commit these crimes become criminals in the eyes of the law by committing these unlawful acts. Now if one were to offer aid and comfort to a murderer or an injured bank robber or a fleeing child molester, they would be arrested, charged and convicted as a criminal. So, why is it that we have so many individuals running loose who are committing criminal acts by giving food, water, shelter, to those illegally entering this country, thus violating federal laws and becoming criminals themselves?

I just replaced a window in my house that was shot out by a pellet gun. The cost of the window replacement was $309. The Cochise County Sheriff’s Office policy is we didn’t see it shot out, so there is nothing we can do. Great. That makes it a non-criminal act or it’s legal to shoot out a residential window. This is the second window that has been shot out in my residence. I now know the true meaning of “blind justice.” We didn’t see it, so be it. I live in the Whetstone area.

Dec. 23

The evangelical pro-Bush vote was key in re-electing Bush and pushing the issue of moral values to the center of public debate. Unsurprisingly evangelicals often simply do not practice what they preach. Poll after poll shows that evangelical Christians are as likely to embrace lifestyles every bit as hedonistic, materialistic, self-centered, and sexually immoral as the world in general. Evangelicals claim to be protecting and restoring marriage, yet according to pollster George Barna, 90 percent of all born-again folk who are divorced did so after they accepted Christ. In a Gallup poll survey on how people respond to having a black neighbor, evangelicals were more racist than everybody else. It is a farce for evangelical leaders to ask Washington to legislate the very things that the majority of evangelicals refuse to live. Evangelicals point the finger at everyone else as though they were the righteous ones. Perfect description of hypocrisy.

I find it rather hypocritical that evangelicals hate abortion and homosexual marriage, two things that Jesus never addresses. It is all about political leverage no doubt. They jump to conclusions from a couple of passages out of the Old Testament. You can prove anything you want from the scriptures if you twist them enough. And yet they pretty much avoid divorce, which scripture and Jesus definitely condemns. Really, evangelicals need to clean up the beams in their own eyes before they start finds specks in other folks’ eyes. The divorce rate among evangelicals is slightly worse than the general population. That’s something to brag about. Oh yeah, if you don’t agree with them, they call you a traitor and engage in character assassination. The Sermon on the Mount counts for nothing among these hypocrites. Jesus who? What would Jesus do? Would he hate and revile to gain political leverage?

I just have to say, the customer service at most fast-food joints in this town is a down right joke. And that also goes for some full service restaurants. This may be just one reason that capitalism is starting to fail in this country. Customer service is what it takes to make a profit, I guess not anymore. Or it could be that I’m just in a backward state. I see where Arizona went McCain-Palin. I predict Arizona will be as dumbed down as Mississippi and join the rest of the brainwashed Bible belt within 20 years.

This is for the driver of the white Cadillac Escalade that I observed on Tuesday the 23rd just after dusk. 1. The speed limit on Cherokee Avenue is 35 mph, not 50 mph. 2. The speed limit on Buffalo Soldier Trail is 50 mph, not 60 plus. 3. Regarding that other car in the right hand lane of Buffalo Soldier Trail — you didn’t miss ’em by much when you cut in front of him to make your right turn onto Coronado Drive. Obey the traffic laws. Have a safe and happy holiday season.

For those of us who do not want to be ruled (Yes, I said ruled, not governed) by the big city corrupt elitists, we may in the future have a viable option. In November of this year 14 states held a secession convention in Tennessee. As of this date a report of the convention has not been made public. I know this article will tighten the shorts of the loony left, however it may well be an option that many people in this country who are interested in a government not ruled by the socialists will vote for or support. Secession is not a system that bands various states together but states that may have different views and desires, however the core of the secession movement is each state have the rights that they desire, not some foreign style government. For those of you that are interested in more information on what may be a critical option in the future, google in “secession project.”

Today’s front page says, “Schools find savings by running cafeterias” then it says, “We were just having difficulties with their management,” said the business manager who now oversees the food service. I believe this business manager is the same one who called for all the people in Sierra Vista to pay outrageous taxes last year. Nothing ever happened to her. So what’s wrong with the management with her? I presume they gave here a pay raise so she can screw this up, too.

Dec. 24

The wind was blowing 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph on Wednesday morning. We looked for the Herald a couple of times, but it was a bit late. Went out for the third time and there it was, right at the front door! Bless you, Charles. We never did find the Star and the person delivering said it was blown away the minute they threw it. What a difference between two deliveries.

Why do we in Huachuca City have to cope with all the terrible ways we are treated at the Senior Center here? The people who have taken charge have made us think they own the town. Their rules are law. The mayor is aware of all of this. Please help us. We need to be heard.

We sleep soundly in our beds because men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. Winston Churchill was right and this is the only peace department free people need.

I have a question. The Democrats were harping on Sarah Palin’s inexperience. I was just wondering how they consider Al Franken to be qualified to be a senator?

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Sherman wrote on Jan 18, 2009 9:11 PM:

" Secession is still Treason "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 18, 2009 7:40 AM:

" Bush is the one who created terrorists. Clinton didn't gut anything. He trimmed the fat. Where does that leave you? Just simple facts. You can cry all you want but bush created the war on terror and then developed a cause for the terrorists to fight against. HE is the bad guy. clinton adjusted the needs of the military to the threat. Unfortunately bush created a higher level of threat with his undiplomatic approach in the mid-east. Simple facts. Cheerio. "

Bisbee Moron wrote on Jan 16, 2009 5:46 PM:

" First off, those gnostic books weren't used by the early church whose collection became the Bible. Now, if you say the Bible doesn't resemble Gnosticism or the gnostic gospels, you have a point. But to say those books were in the Bible and then taken out by a crazed priest, a zealous monk, Elvis or aliens isn't in keeping with what we find historically. Again, what FACTS do you use to back up your point? "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 16, 2009 4:50 PM:

" This was interesting, but the fun has waned. Let's put our cards on the table. I'm a Republican and I have many issues with Bush. I'm for positions and ideas. I source my arguments and don't care WHO is doing WHAT, as long as it is benefits the US. The Daily Kos and MSNBC crowd aren't able to handle an exchange of ideas from someone who doesn't wait for ideological orders. I watch Mathews and listen to Medved. I read Krugman and Krauthammer. I don't say "This or that happened" without citation. And I have yet to name-call. Serve. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 16, 2009 12:37 PM:

" I never said anything about Clinton or Bush in any of these posts. YOU are set on defense. All I did was post facts and set the bias trap. You didn't fall in, you leapt in with your knives out and I didn't even make an accusation. You could care less about terror, death, or the horrors people go through. You ask about numbers of dead only in the U.S. like McNamara and body counts. So the dead and maimed bodies of "foreigners" don't matter. Or the Americans on the Cole. Got it. "

To Bisbee Moron wrote on Jan 16, 2009 7:40 AM:

" Check out the website www.interfaith.org/christianity/apocrypha for a listing of books missing from the New Testament. I didn't search the old testament yet but I think you can get the idea from this alone. I am Christian but not ignorant to the FACT that the bible as we know it is not a complete account and can't be viewed as black & white. "

TinAZ wrote on Jan 16, 2009 7:30 AM:

" To Hmmm: I cannot continue to try and have intelligent argument with someone who does not have a decent grasp on reality. The Clinton administration gutted our HUMINT capability and downsized the military. Check and compare interest rates and employment rates. We were moving towards a recession at the end of the Clinton admin. You are an American basher and blame good and honest Americans for the "cycle of violence". I could fit your grasp of the "cycle of violence" on the head of a pin. I will not waste anymore time with you. I am out of here. "

Hmmmm wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:13 PM:

" tinaZ under your own deffinition bush is a failure too. bush has done nothing to curb violence or terrorism anywhere in the world. His policies have made the world more dangerous. He has made more terrorists then have been killed. He and the repubican mentality are the source of the cycle of violence. The world was safer under Clinton and the economy was ten times stronger. Simple unarguable facts. "

Hmmmm wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:09 PM:

" Shadow the bombers of the embassies in Africa were either caught or killed along with the Cole bombers. All the others had nothing to do with the US. You act as if bush killed bin laden. bush has spent billions at the cost of thousands of US lives, and he still hasn't gotten bin laden. Some plan. Clinton did what he needed to do to keep us safe. bush came on board let his guard down, went on vacation and allowed the US to be attacked. He is a complete failure. There is no argument there. "

To Shadow wrote on Jan 15, 2009 7:50 PM:

" Whats you point? Out of 14 one in the US. Any dead there? "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 15, 2009 2:42 PM:

" I'd like to see an independent confirmation of the numbers of Al Qaeda terrorists before and after the invasion of Iraq. Do we mean to say that the invasion of Iraq stirred the anger of Muslims so that they turned, inevitably, to terror? You mean the same people who band together in the MILLIONS to threaten with death the publishers of a cartoon? Or the filmmaker Van Gogh who was beheaded for a movie? So what was the problem between 1993 and 2001? Was it gay marriage? (yes, we noticed it's been three days of silence now) "

Bisbee Moron wrote on Jan 15, 2009 12:56 PM:

" To Much missing - you of course have proof of this correct? If what you were saying was true the modern Bible would line up with the manuscripts that are being found like the Dead Sea scrolls. Or the 2500 manuscripts of the new testament. You're attempting to use a post modern argument to nullify something that states black and white. "

To much missing wrote on Jan 15, 2009 11:44 AM:

" From the bible. Not one of us has read the entire bible as it was meant to be read. Things have been removed and added through the centuries. History tells us this. Be careful in your judgement, you just never know. Righteousness, when viewed by others can be a sin also. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:26 AM:

" 1993 Two CIA employees killed by Pakistani terrorist at Langley
1993 - WTC bombed
1993 Mumbai bombing kills 257
1994 Jewish center bombed in Argentina 86 dead
1994 Ansar Allah bombs plane over Panama 21 dead
1994 Israeli embassy bombed in London
1995 Islamist Chechens take 1500 hostages. 130 dead
1995 Terrorists bombs in France kill 8 wound 100
1996 Suicide bombers in Israel kill 60 wound 250
1996 Khobar Towers 19 dead 372 wounded
1997 Attack on tourists at Luxor Egypt 62 dead
1998 Bombing at election rally India 60 dead
1998 Bombing US embassies Nairobi and Tanzania 225 dead 4000 wounded
2000 USS Cole bombed 17 dead "

TinAZ wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:07 AM:

" To Hmmm: I have supported ALL of our presidents. Each has had strengths and weaknesses. If Clinton would have had the intestinal fortitude required for the job we would have taken Bin Laden out when he was in the Sudan, especially in light of the fact that he was behind most of the terrorist attacks against U.S. assets, and we knew that. The #1 trait of a good leader, in my opinion, is their ability to absorb the information at hand and make decisions in the best interest of our country. Trying to do this with Polls won't work. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 15, 2009 2:19 AM:

" In short, there weren't as many terrorists to track down under the Clinton years. The bush anti-muslim stance created the fire to to ignite anti-americanism in the Arab world. This pushed many Arabs into an extremist mentality, which led to an increase in terrorism. Perhaps you are too close to the problem that you can't see the problem. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 15, 2009 2:16 AM:

" Tinaz... The conflict in Iraq created terrorists. AQI didn't exist until we cleared out the Bathist that wouldn't stand for AQ. Once we cleared out the Saddam regime we created a vacuum of power that allowed AQI to form and strengthen. Had bush had some foresight into what a post-saddam iraq would need and planned for it, things would have been much smoother, and AQI would have been denied. How do justify Clinton bashing during the bush admin, yet you are not at ease people bashing bush during the Obama years? That is a hypcrit for ya. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 14, 2009 3:43 PM:

" No, there are no registered names here. But there are, hopefully, responsible polite adults here. Using another's name detracts from the user as well as the group. While it is obvious that Hmmm and I routinely disagree, I would object to anyone else usurping their tag. "

Bisbee Moron wrote on Jan 14, 2009 2:24 PM:

" To Hmmm, just cant help yourself can you? Why the name change? "

Hmmmm wrote on Jan 14, 2009 11:45 AM:

" Is this a registered name that I'm not ALLOWED to use. I'm contemplating just as much as the other 2 "hmmmm's". Hmmmm...? "

To Bisbee Moron wrote on Jan 14, 2009 9:56 AM:

" We know you voted for the looser McCain. Thanks but we really don't need your minority opinions in this forum. "

TinAZ wrote on Jan 14, 2009 9:06 AM:

" Hmmm: Yes, I missplelled Al Qaeda. GITMO was around before Bush, but it was mostly empty of terrorists because the prior administrations did little to track down terrorists. By the way, I am retired Army Special Forces, and have friends deeply involved in the GWOT, so when I speak it is based upon personal history. From what I can tell, the only thing you are capable of is "Bush bashing" based upon what you pick up from left blogs. You are the type that will be blaming Obama blunders on Bush for years to come. Gets old. "

Bisbee Moron wrote on Jan 14, 2009 6:08 AM:

" To Pat, I consider myself a conservative not a republican. The same may be the case for you. Washington has been getting more and more liberal for some time Republican, and of course, Democrat. The republicans just seem to be behind the democrats by 10-15 years. Dukakis ran in 1988 to the right of what McCain's positions were last year.

To the Shadow, take away Hmmm's ability to use insults, then Hmmm can't communicate at all. Just another example of the "Tolerant" left, like that protest in FL. "

Big Brother wrote on Jan 13, 2009 9:12 PM:

" You are voting to allow the government to decide who you can marry. Sounds like Communism to me "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 13, 2009 8:00 PM:

" Tinaz Bush was the one who set this in motion... Don't be so cynical. In all reality they will likely end up in a prison in Afghanistan. Who is Al Quida? Why would you even suggest sending them home? What is wrong with you other than botterness and being twisted? "

Pat wrote on Jan 13, 2009 7:14 PM:

" I dont understand something, why is the republican party acting like democrats? Bailouts, pro illegal immigration, anti Israel and now, blowing more money the government doesnt have? Those are things that democrats hold dear to their hearts. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 13, 2009 4:36 PM:

" Hmmm,
A few others who post here and I have a wager on your answer to the following challenge. Consider this seriously - don't bang out another post with "hate" or "homophobe." Here's the challenge: Make your case for gay marriage without insults, names, or grandiose statements about the future. It's not hard. You make a point, I counter it. Neither of us insult the other. We speak like civilized adults. Fair enough? This thread awaits your response... "

TinAZ wrote on Jan 13, 2009 12:56 PM:

" Here is something to think about: When Obama shuts down Guantanamo Bay where will the radical terrorists go? Our "allies" will not take them. Will we ship them back home and let them go so they can be reintroduced into the Taliban and Al Quida? Maybe, but the real answer is: integration into the U.S. prison systems. You think we got "gang" problems now? Now we will grow a new form of internal terrorism. After you libs figure out how to pet polar bears you can start working on feel good therapy for radical terrorists. "

Wise Guy wrote on Jan 13, 2009 8:26 AM:

" Hmmm, do you really know what you voted for? There was no referendum against gay marriage. No one voted against gay unions in 2008 because there was no gay union proposition in 2008. You are so dramatic trying to make this a gay issue. Proposition 102, amended the Arizona Constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman. If you wanted gay unions you should have voted for Prop 107 back in 2006. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 12, 2009 9:36 PM:

" Shadow lost this round and gays will eventually be allowed to marry in all 50 states. It is just a matter of time. Shadow refuses to defend why gay marriages are bad and will not answer the question. If you vote against something, there should be a reason, so what is it? It is discrimination when you act on your prejudices. Shadow and everyone else who voted against gays are discriminating against gays. Pure and simple. Shadow offered nothing except crying about being called a homophobe. Get over it and at least offer an argument buddy. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 12, 2009 9:33 PM:

" And again hadow can not and will not say why he voted against gay marriage. He skirts the question every time. What is the point in voting against gays? What purpose does it serve? Why define marriage between a man and a woman and deny two homosexuals marriage? Shadow you made no argument, only critcizing myself and gay marriages. I am prejudice against those that exclude like shadow. I can accept gay marriage even though I am not gay. It doesn't affect me so why vote against it? Shadow all your comments lead to homophobe bevaior. Just admit it. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 12, 2009 6:24 PM:

" In regards to Hmmm's "defenses" of gay marriage - It's worse than pure emotion. No critical thought, no formulation of arguments and qualitiative rebuttals. Just schoolyard insults. Hmmm makes no points that can be critically debated. "You're a homophobe and hate gays" has no merit because there is no launching point for dialogue. I've never insulted nor criticized gays - my argument was purely for defining marriage between a man and woman. After a half dozen tries, it looks hopeless to have an exchange without Hmmm using "-phobe" or some form of the label "hater." Boring. "

Madoff whiners wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:50 AM:

" Many of the people who invested with Bernie Madoff in the 1980s have recieved 12% a year for all of those years. What they may not realize is that they may actually have to pay back anything above thier investments to compensate those who actually lost money "

To The Shadow wrote on Jan 12, 2009 6:40 AM:

" Hmmm is notorious for not studying or researching anything he/she posts on. Also, in Hmmm's view disagreeing with them IS hate. It's post modernism in its purest form, if you believe or feel something hard enough, it must be the truth. Don't waste your time, he/she wont really read anything you post and just name call. It's what happens when you try to talk to someone that only uses pure emotion. Besides, Hmmm will just make up more screen names to agree with himself/herself. "

Wise Guy wrote on Jan 11, 2009 8:12 PM:

" I have to agree with The Shadow. Hmmm doesn't seem to have a grasp of why people voted to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Hmmm feels that is an attack against gays. It wasn't a vote against gay unions. AZ already had a law against gay unions which has been upheld in AZ courts. It was a vote to preserve the traditional definition of marriage. God bless you Hmmm, hopefully one day you will see your prejudice and stop hating others. "

Bible thumper wrote on Jan 11, 2009 6:35 PM:

" God must have loved gays, his only son wasn't interested in women. According to the bible. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 11, 2009 12:58 PM:

" Hmmm - I challenge you to look at every post of mine and find where I criticize gays. I disagree with the push to redefine the institution of marriage. I disagree with you, I make points for us to debate, and your every answer is "hate" or "fear." It is like trying to reason with a child. In Isaiah 1:18, God says "Come, let us reason together" You want to use labels, names and project your own fear and hatred on others. I CHALLENGE you Hmmm to find hate or fear in my posts. BRING IT ON! "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 10, 2009 8:42 PM:

" God loves gays, but I guess the shadow doesn't. Perhaps the shadow should be more godlike and loves gays as Jesus does. Instead he critcizes them. Things that make you go hmmm. There is no reason to vote down gay marriage. If you do, then what are you afraid of? How do gay marriages affect you? Denying a group equality is dicriminatory. People discriminate because they either hate or they fear. Shadow are you a hater or are you scared? If your scared then you are a homophobe. Pretty simple. "

Big Deal wrote on Jan 10, 2009 1:41 PM:

" Bernie Madoff ripped off the rich. Big deal. His ponzi scheme affected those rich clients that wanted to get richer and those celebraties stupid enough to invest with him. It's like someone ripping off a drug dealer. Who cares. "

Fred Matt wrote on Jan 10, 2009 8:00 AM:

" The recent Bernie Madoff scandal makes me sick to no end! The entire fiasco has made it very clear to me that the super rich and powerful are above the law! Madoff is still hanging out in his $7 million apartment, wearing an ankle bracelet. He has sent members of his family and friends millions of dollars worth of jewelry and checks over the holidays, allegedly stashing the valuables/money that otherwise might have been confiscated to pay people back that he had ripped off! "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 9, 2009 5:10 PM:

" To Hmmm
Are you not reading what others are posting to you? Gays want to take the definition of marriage and change it to fit their lives. I cannot take an apple, declare that it is a pear, and call everyone "pear-phobes" that don't agree with me. I'm really disappointed with people who use generalizations, as you do, that everyone who doesn't see your point of view are "-phobes." That line of reasoning tells me that you are probably at odds with most everyone you meet because if they don't agree with you, they are "haters" or "-phobes" "

DR wrote on Jan 9, 2009 10:41 AM:

" Dont you think God is judging us, sin is sin, And sin is defined in the Bible, but you have to read it.
You cant pick and choose what is sin, if you do then it's called a cult. It's called re-writing the Bible. "

Larry Talbot wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:08 AM:

" I disagree with Hmmm, Those who want the government to decide who can marry who are Socialists who believe the Government should decide religious issues. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 8, 2009 1:01 AM:

" Yes I sgree yet again that those that oppose gay marriage are probaly homophobes, and counter to good civility and appreciation for differences. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 7, 2009 5:25 PM:

" The Shadow does agree that registering user names would be beneficial. But only because immature and childish people insist upon posting with the screen names that others have established. It's sad that we need an outside entity to police the site, and some can't be honorable and mature and participate in the discussion without being rude and disruptive. Thanks for demonstrating that some people can't handle the free access of the internet. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 11:37 AM:

" Again your prejudicial assumption that EVERYONE who opposes gay marriage is sexist is rude and counter productive. It discredits your arguement as coming from someone who is racist and prejudiced. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 11:35 AM:

" Gay marriage bans don't infringe on the 1st Amendment. The 1stt Amendment prohibits the United States Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion" or that prohibit the free exercise of religion, laws that infringe the freedom of speech, infringe the freedom of the press, limit the right to peaceably assemble, or limit the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. The 9th amendment addresses rights of the people that are not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. Banning gay marriage doesn't violate the 1st amendment. The SC could rule that it violates the 9th amendment. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:56 AM:

" I hate it when people use my screen name. Maybe the SV Herald should require users to sign up to post comments like many other sites do? "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:04 AM:

" Maybe Hmmm has two points of view. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:23 PM:

" There is a "Hmmm" with whom I strongly disagree and another "Hmmm" posting opposing viewpoints. This is wrong. The fake "Hmmm" needs to STOP using that name. It is wrong and immature. While I may not agree with the original "Hmmm" and his/her posts, they deserve to keep their screen name. Please cease these childish tactics when posting. We all have a unique screen name and courtesy should prevail - use your OWN nom de web. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:17 PM:

" To "To Shadow"

Why do some Christians strictly oppose gays? No, not gays, but gay behavior. And yes, it does directly affect me and my children. The news media, books, television, music, movies, and entertainment media all glamorize and highlight gay activity. This is opposed to my beliefs and how I raise my family. I take offense towards gay bashers too. Either way, the behavior, not the person, is an affront to my beliefs. Jesus loves me and I am a sinner as much as a gay person. Look at Christ, and not the self-identified so-called "Christians" "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:13 AM:

" There ya go. Sex works for orientation as it does for anything else. Bottom line is that the civil rights act and the 1st Amendment are being violated by the gay marriage ban. This is why the ban will never hold up. Laws across the country are being reversed based on discrimination, and rightly so. Gay pride in SV is alive and well. Gay marriages will come to SV in the near future. Everyone knows those that oppose it are simply sexist. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:13 AM:

" Sexual orientation wasn't included in the Civil Rights laws. The constitution protect rights of citizensbased on race, sex, national origin, or religion. "

Cochise Cabinets Countertops Inc. wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:14 AM:

" In response to the Dec 14 OYM RE: response from local cabinet contractors. I am a licensed cabinet/countertop contractor and would welcome the opportunity to provide you with an estimate. I have local references and have been in business in SV since 6/05. Please contact me (Rick) @ 520-227-5351 at your convenience to set an appt. if your still in the market for quality workmanship. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 6, 2009 2:19 AM:

" I agree that people who voted against gay marriage is against the 1st Amendment. The puritans voted to chagne the definition, which violated the 1st Amendment rights of the people. It also goes against the civil rights act. Everyone knows that in the next ten years gays will be allowed to marry each other. Just the way freedoms work. It is anti-constitutional to exclude people based on things like race and sexual orientation. Just a matter of time. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 4, 2009 8:57 PM:

" There's nothing in the 1st Amendment that supports the right to gay marriage. The 1st amendment allows those opposed to or for gay marriage debate the subject on this forum. If the gay movement uses the 1st Amendment for their argument they'll lose. They have a better chance pinning their hopes on the 9th Amendment. Calling people who voted against gay marriages homophobes is prejudicial, rude and counter-productive. Many people who are against gay marriage have no issues with the state allowing legal contracts between two gay people to be together. The redifinition of marriage is their issue. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 4, 2009 10:41 AM:

" To real, The 1st amendment doesn't address rights to gay marriage. A law banning gay unions won't be overturned by the 1st Amendment. The 9th Amendment is the amendment you want to pin your hopes on. The 1st Amendment gives those who are opposed to and for gay unions the right to say so within this forum. Labeling people who are against gay unions as homophobic is prejudicial, rude and counter productive. Many people who are opposed to gay marriage don't have a problem with the state allowing leagal contracts between two gay people. Redefining marriage is their issue. "

To Shadow wrote on Jan 4, 2009 9:53 AM:

" Why do some Christians strictly oppose gays. It is not like it impacts them at all. How dare they call themselves Christians yet chastize the same people they are supposed to love. Do you think Jesus doesn't love them because they love people of their same gender? What does it matter to anyone who vited against gays? It would seem that was the anti-Christian thing to do. "

Poor Treatment in HC wrote on Jan 4, 2009 7:24 AM:

" You that are receiving poor treatment in HC need to accept the fact that as long as the current regime and mis-managers are in place, that's what you are goin g to get. Good luck with finding a new and competent crew (council/mayor/clerk etc)!. "

Worm in Potato wrote on Jan 4, 2009 7:21 AM:

" You are lucky they didn't charge more extra for the the worm! Sour cream, chives, butter, bacon, worm. Was it at least cooked? "

The real Hmmm wrote on Jan 3, 2009 8:41 PM:

" Gay marriages will be legal in all 50 states because of the 1st Amendment within the next ten years. The ban is a clear violation of the 1st Amendment and all the homophobes that voted for the ban voted for an illegal proposition that violated peoples rights. Yes it is true that those who voted against gay marriages probably practice anti-homosexual behaviors in the work place. It is a tragedy that people have to be judged based on their sexual orientation. That is all the ban does. Why can't a state legal contract be given to two gay people? "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 3, 2009 2:02 PM:

" ...Continued
Ultimately, I don't want my life choices decided by 9 people, or 100, or 435 or millions. So if I am gay, and I want to marry my partner, then I find one of the many religious denominations that will marry us. We file for a civil union to make the legals compatible with our state of affairs as a couple. Done! But there are gays, and some who do nothing but oppose Christians, who will not be satisfied with that. They want a redefinition of marriage to suit THEIR lives. That to me indicates a lot of insecurity. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 3, 2009 1:51 PM:

" Continued:

So then if the government is right only when we agree, or wrong when we disagree, then there is obviously another interest here. The primary issue is not what the government does or does not do, but what is the ultimate authority in those actions. There has to be an idea or philosophy or belief that transcends the day-to-day decisions we all face: be you a clerk, or county official, or Senator, or Supreme Court Justice. When you have to make that hard choice, where do you turn and say "This is why I make this stand?" "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 3, 2009 1:45 PM:

" Dogbert-
The government will have to decide either way. There is no in between. The issue is who can be legally joined in marriage. The answer came in some cases by judicial fiat, e.g. Massachussetts supremes said that the state WILL recognize marriage between the same gender. That is a government decision. In other cases, like here, the people voted on that same issue. Both legal decisions. So, who was right? People of all political persuasions cheer when the court or lawmakers or voters decide in "their" favor and jeer when they don't. What is the ultimate authority then? "

Thats Odd wrote on Jan 3, 2009 9:55 AM:

" My calendar has a lot of different holidays listed for Dec. Guess someone is very narrow minded to think Christmas is the only holiday during Dec because it is the only holiday listed on their calendar. Think some before posting. "

Dogbert wrote on Jan 2, 2009 5:09 PM:

" My point is that, while I disapprove of homosexuality and believe it is sinful, that is between the sinner and God. I do not want the Government making those decisions. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 2, 2009 4:14 PM:

" To Hmmm or "Hmmm"

If you're going to post an answer to someone, please refrain from using their name as your own. It is confusing and while I'm sure it is often a mistake, it is dishonest and rude. "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 2, 2009 4:12 PM:

" Dogbert, I think the larger point is that without a foundation, then anyone called "councilman" "senator" "judge" or "justice" can make any law or issue any order regardless of its moral or constitutional merit. The same court system that confirmed slavery, segregation and the internment of the Japanese in WW2 also are overturning state votes on gay marriage. So if one trusts the court as "supreme" in its judgments, then you have to hold that it is ALWAYS right (e.g. Brown vs. Board of Education)- not just when you agree with it. Same for executive and legislative. "

Gary wrote on Jan 2, 2009 3:01 PM:

" It is now 2009 and even though the
economy is poor we have a lot to be
thankful for. We have hope with a new
President, AND O.J. is in prison where
he belongs! "

To Not Illegai wrote on Jan 2, 2009 12:34 PM:

" What do you define as harboring? So when the same two men were spotted on the campus two days in a row it is not harboring. Making the phone call for a pickup is not harboring? It is nothing but to semantics to say they are not harboring when the church is doing everything they can to help them move on shy of transporting them themselves. What is wrong with calling BP? I hope you are signed up for the illegal trash pickup on Jan 8 since you are encouraging this damage to our lands. "

Dogbert wrote on Jan 2, 2009 8:39 AM:

" I don't know if I take Hmmms full point but I do remember that when I got married, during the Vietnam war, inter racial marriages were illegal in 16 states. I was counseled that if I were to be stationed in one of those states (guess where) I would be better off living on base. "

Something to Think About wrote on Jan 2, 2009 8:27 AM:

" In a recent discussion with a gay relative and his companion, of over 20 years, I was a little surprised when they said they didn't want to get married. If married, they've realized that if one dies, the other would be responsible for all of that person's debts and taxes. Not so, if unmarried. All of their property is already in both names so each will keep the assets, but not the debt if one dies. IF same-sex marriage is legalized, better check your significant other's credit rating before proceeding! "

Gobbledegook wrote on Jan 1, 2009 6:30 PM:

" I cannot believe some of this ignorance. Iraq did nothing to us? Tell that to the pilots that were shot at, an assassination attempt on our PRESIDENT...years of ignoring UN Sanctions--11 years to be precise. How short your memories are!

I would also like to know what are "all the freedoms we have lost" under President Bush? Talk about drama queens--my lord. You haven't lost any freedoms but you do sleep securely each night. What a joke!! "

The Shadow wrote on Jan 1, 2009 1:00 PM:

" LIBERAL TACTIC ALERT! Hmmm just threw out a favorite tactic of the left - comparisons between slavery and the American voter's decision in free elections to define marriage. In state after state, free people (black, white, brown, men, women, gay, straight)democratically chose to define marriage. There was no mass plebiscite of voters, black and white, during slavery. The issue has no connection, no bearing and no similarities whatsoever. An irresponsible and fallacious try. Those that are FOR keeping marriage as between a woman and a man don't try to tie slavery to whatever issue they choose. "

Stupid wrote on Jan 1, 2009 12:02 PM:

" You are absolutely right Hmmmm! Thank you! "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 1, 2009 11:52 AM:

" That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard - "Those that are against gay marriage probably don't practice equal opportunity in the work place." That's like saying those that support gay marriage are gay. It is a ludicrous assumption. The fact is that the majority of American's don't support gay marriage. This was witnessed through the voters this past election. There was never a constitutional law that supported slavery. There is an amendment that abolishes slavery. There is no constitutional right to marriage in the Constitution. There are State Contitutional ammendments against same sex marriage. 1st amendment won't help the case. "

Hmmm wrote on Jan 1, 2009 7:12 AM:

" The laws are changing right now. The ban on same sex marriage as you know is unconstitutional. In the next few years gays will be able to marry freely without prejudice in every state. This issue is similar to people who thaught slavery was legal and rightous. Those that are against gay marriage probably don't practice equal opportunity in the work place either. "

Hmmm wrote on Dec 31, 2008 11:52 PM:

" The law that was overturned by California Supreme Court was a statute. Prop 8 now makes marriage between a man and a woman a state constitutional amendment. The law is now constitutional law. It is unconstitutional to recognize same sex marriage in California. The California Supreme court can't strike down a constitutional law. Opponents will have to argue on technicalities of how the Constitution was amended to have the law overturned and if they fail they will have to wait until state legislatures amend the State Constitution some years from now to broaden the scope of marriage in California. "

Hmmm wrote on Dec 31, 2008 4:49 PM:

" Same-sex marriage was already prohibited in Arizona, and Arizona courts have upheld that ban prior to the Prop 102 amendment of the AZ State Constitution. A constitutional amendment provides a higher legal level of legal protection against same-sex marriage than does a statute. A constitutional amendment will withstand judicial scrutiny better than a statute. Same thing will be true for other states in the US.

Todays events are no worse than they were back during the Crusaides or during the Dark Ages. Judgement Day is not coming, unless you are up in years and are expecting to die soon. "

Concerned citizen wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:32 PM:

" Judgement Day is coming! Keep watching the news. All who think that they are smarter than "HIM" will be judged soon. "

To Christmas wrote on Dec 31, 2008 10:47 AM:

" Tell me what other official holliday by law is in December? The only one I see on the calandar is Christmas. No other official by law holiday there. "

Ellen wrote on Dec 31, 2008 10:34 AM:

" www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaymarriage16-2008may16,0,6182317.story

There is a presedence already established so it is more than likely that the courts will rule AGAIN in favor of the ban. This will affect all other states in the long run. Eventually, anyone who wants to get married will be able to do so in every state. "

No customer service wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:58 AM:

" I too think the customer service in this town lacks greatly. In a country where jobs are dropping like flies, people better shape up and gain some working skills or they will not have a job. When I worked as a teen customer service was drilled into my head that is not the case now and it will cost businesses money. Whats so hard about just being nice and doing your BEST. Have some self respect too. "

I believe in Jesus Youll See wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:51 AM:

" To those who have some say in how people of faith are not practicing in what they preach. No, we don't all the time because we are human. Jesus only requires us to believe in him and repent for our sins. I repent every night for my earthly sins small or large. I believe because I have seen his work in my life. The world only proves his truth and that is leaning on the edge of the evils he said would happen before he came back. You do not get to heaven by your works. JESUS. "

Hmmm wrote on Dec 31, 2008 7:28 AM:

" Concerned Parent you are wrong. The definition of marriage in AZ has been aorund for all of about 2 months now. The courts are already in the works for reversing CA's law, then all the other states will follow. It is pretty simple. It doesn't matter what the "Creator" syas or doesn't say because marriage is only a legal contract with the state. That is all it has ever been. "

ConcernedPatron wrote on Dec 30, 2008 6:50 PM:

" Marriage has been defined as between a man and a woman for centuries, this should NEVER change. And for the topic of illlegal immigrants having there way invading our nation, this has happened for centuries, do you really THINK this fact will ever change? I am a realist and things like controlling who walks across our border will never be resolved. But unless we take a stand and define marriage as it should be, we will be judged by our Creator for doing against His edicts after we are dead! The legacy we leave know is so important. "

Hmmm wrote on Dec 30, 2008 1:42 PM:

" There's nothing in the 1st Amendment that would sway a Federal Judge to over turn a marriage law. The law in California is a State Law. It has to go through their State Courts first. If the ban is in the State Constitution then it is unlikely that it will be overturned, unless they ammend the State Constitution. Pretty tough to do. "

Hmmm wrote on Dec 30, 2008 10:40 AM:

" The gay marriage ban will be over turned in the courts. CA will set the pace on this one. The ban is a violation of the 1st Amendment. After it gets overturned in CA it will get over turned everywhere else. It is just a matter of time. The homo phobes like Sanders will just have to deal with it. Too bad. "

Fast Food Service wrote on Dec 30, 2008 10:02 AM:

" I agree with the fast food service here sucks. One time, we ordered 10 soft tacos we waited 45 mis -- for 10 soft tacos! I finally went up and asked what the hold up was and the lady replied "Oh we must have skipped over yours". When we finally got the food no apologies were said. I am sick of their service and you get no help from the 800 number you call to complain on. "

Stupid wrote on Dec 30, 2008 9:56 AM:

" Marriage in the legal sense is nothing but a piece of paper! When two people love one another enough to want to be together in a household who cares if they are man and woman or man and man or woman and woman. If everyone wants us equal than you should throw out marriage all together OR make it legal for ALL that want to marry be allowed! "

To Two Faced wrote on Dec 30, 2008 1:41 AM:

" Marriage is not a right. It is a legal status in most countries, which most times has a religious ceremony to accompany the act of marrying. Your arguement doesn't hold water. It is also not a right to drink alcohol; however those that are older than 21 may drink if they desire. Those below 21 cannot. The drinking age of 21 and older is a legal status. It is illegal for those under 21 to drink alcohol. Marriage between a man and a woman is a legal status; where as marriage between same sex isn't. "

harold sanders wrote on Dec 29, 2008 2:39 PM:

" If you think the age old saying of "merry christmas" is gone, How do you feel about the new introduction of gays. Please to meet you Mr. and Mr. Smith..... Mr. Smith your wife Mr. Smith is very kind.....oh well.... "

Not Illegai wrote on Dec 29, 2008 12:32 PM:

" It is not illegal to give water to an illegal. It is illegal to harbor them, the catholics are not doing that. I wonder how many other churches give out water, and the congregation is unaware of it. As for catholics paying the expense of 911 are you actually that dense? "

Jan wrote on Dec 29, 2008 9:21 AM:

" To the person saying they are being treated bad at the Huachuca City Senior Center, unfortunately nothing will change, it never does in Huachuca City, just look around. The Mayor and Council Members are the main problem, they don't care about the town, bottom line. "

Jan wrote on Dec 29, 2008 9:14 AM:

" I don't know of anybody that has a license plate frame to try and hide their plate, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, mine certainly doesn't hide anything, just covers the very top of Arizona, but anybody can still see it says Arizona, and what other state has a cactus on their plate, none that I'm aware of. This is the STUPIDEST law I've ever heard, especially since you've got idiots out there every day on their cell phones, not paying attention to anything and my neighbor actually told me he sends text messages while driving. UNBELIEVABLE! "

senior center wrote on Dec 29, 2008 8:48 AM:

" You mean, people go to houses, force old people to march to the seniors center where they then abuse them? How do you manage to escape? Why don't you call the police? Or...maybe you really *aren't* forced to endure terrible treatment? Maybe you just stupidly keep going back for more terrible treatment? If you don't like how things are done, I bet they'd be happy to have you volunteer. Better yet, get all the seniors together, rent your own space and run things however you want. Boy, and we think youth have an entitlement mentality. "

illegals jobs wrote on Dec 29, 2008 8:40 AM:

" For one thing, all those illegals aren't actually working. I read a report once that said there are actually only about a quarter million jobs filled by illegals. Yes there are a lot of jobs filled by legal immigrants, but there are only so many positions that can be filled using illegal help. And those numbers are not even close to how many illegals are actually here. "

bumper sticker wrote on Dec 29, 2008 8:36 AM:

" That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. A bumper sticker with all that on it would have to have such tiny text that people will have to get real close to see what it says. D'oh. "

christmas wrote on Dec 29, 2008 8:34 AM:

" The only people I hear complain is rabid people who get incensed when others prefer to use happy holidays. For some reason they see this as a personal insult, even though Christmas is a holiday. I've never heard a single person object to an individual's use of 'Merry Christmas.' It's true they object to an organization's use of the phrase, as they should. It's not right to ignore the many other and much older holidays when with a simple greeting you can include everyone INCLUDING Christmas revelers. Christmas is very new compared to other holidays...what have you got against them? "

two faced wrote on Dec 29, 2008 8:27 AM:

" If there is no right to get married, then how can people claim it's only available for some? It's either a right or it isn't. Can't have it both ways. "

Jill wrote on Dec 29, 2008 6:39 AM:

" To the person asking "I’d just like to ask if all the things done in Sierra Vista are only for Gentiles?" The answer is no. If you want a parade for some other religion or cause then organize it just like the people did for the Christmas parade. If you don't celebrate Christmas then don't go to the Christmas parade and have tolerance for those that do celebrate Christmas and go to the parade. Could you not figure that out on your own? "