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Why is Forgach no longer in name of SV shelter


Published/Last Modified on Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 - 05:12:34 am MST

To the Editor:

The Forgach House Domestic Crisis Shelter was 25 years old this August. Why is there an attempt to change the name?

It is said that Catholic Community Services is trying to change the name. Perhaps the agency does not understand how “the shelter” known as the Forgach House Domestic Crisis Shelter came about.


When “the shelter” first opened its door in August 1983, it had no name other than Domestic Violence Shelter.

The first residents that came to a singlewide shelter resented the word “violence” in the title, therefore Domestic Crisis Shelter.

Paul Forgach, who was involved with victim’s rights nationally, came to Sierra Vista to train about 40 people from Bisbee, Douglas and our community. The first training was the summer of 1983. He did two more trainings for the staff of the shelter. Paul Forgach died in April 1985. It was at that time the name Forgach House Domestic Crisis Shelter came about.

Is this an attempt to discount all of the people that gave of their time and energy to make Forgach what it is today? Some of the original advisory board people, such as retired Judge Jim Riley, Sharon Lake, Joyce Warren, Dottie Bianco, Helen Vance, Kathleen Heard, Virginia Gannon, Beena Troupe, the folks from Douglas Legal Aid, such as Connie Hoyos, Sister Susan Kolb, CSA and the many volunteers too numerous to mention have been discounted.

The staff, housemothers who worked very hard for minimum wage and no benefits, the case managers who were on call 24-7 and would come to the shelter in the middle of the night to ease a victim and her children’s fears seem to be discredited. Is the hard work by Mitzi and George Kirmse in producing the “Forgach House” Variety Show being queried? Have the original endeavors by Patrick Palmer to get the see money from Catholic Social Services and the dedication of Frank McDonough working with city government members, county SEAGO people to get the Community Development Block Grant money that helped to build a new third shelter building gone for naught? The site where this building stood was two acres of land donated by St. Andrew the Apostle Catholic Church.

Finally, the Knights of Columbus donated the land where the present new domestic violence shelter building exists.

Where has this idea to change the name come from?

Let us not forget Paul Forgach by dropping the title Forgach House Domestic Violence Shelter.

Tonianne Goebel

Retired Forgach House director

Sierra Vista

EDITOR’S NOTE: According to Chuck Fischer with Catholic Community Services, which runs the shelter, the official name of the shelter is currently Sierra Vista Shelter.

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    To Life-Long SV Resident wrote on Dec 9, 2008 5:09 PM:

    " You wrote: "The attempt to change the name comes from religious organizations, such as catholics, want to do all they can to promote themselves and their agenda"
    Riiiiight. That's why they've changed the name to the blatantly religious "Sierra Vista Shelter."
    The shelter is non-denominational. Nobody pushes *any* religion there.
    No offense to Paul Forgach, he was unquestionably a fine man, but the shelter developed a very bad reputation while it carried this name. Let the shelter's fresh start come with a fresh name. Don't denigrate a place and people that do nothing but good work. "

    brian wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:18 AM:

    " LLSVR, did you take a day off from work for Thanskgiving? if you're so anti-religious influence why would you indulge in a religous observation? Theres nothing secular about thanksgiving, its a time for thanking God for his blessings. "

    Shaken but not stirred wrote on Nov 26, 2008 9:20 AM:

    " Why make a big deal over a name? What counts is that the doors are still open and the services are still being provided. Why stir the water is a negative way? If you believe in what the shelter was established to do then continue to support and help it grow. As Proverb 10:19, "Where words are many, sin is not wanting; but he who restrains his lips does well." "

    Around when it was started wrote on Nov 23, 2008 7:59 AM:

    " This is so typical of "newbees". If is wasn't for the hard work and dedication of people 25 years ago we would not have a shelter. Don't change the name for a number of reasons the most important being that support will stop because people will think the shelter has gone away and.... it has. "

    Life Long SV Resident wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:18 AM:

    " The attempt to change the name comes from religious organizations, such as catholics, want to do all they can to promote themselves and their agenda. I agree that the name should remain Forgach. The disgusting self promotion of any religious organization is apparent in this situation. Get out of my world religion and stay out of our city's good deeds. "

    To Editor wrote on Nov 19, 2008 6:49 PM:

    " Thanks for all the info. When was it changed, who changed it, why was it changed? "

    What wrote on Nov 19, 2008 6:24 AM:

    " Hey Chuck, As a long time resident of SV, why then does everybody refer to it as the Forgach House? "

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