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12-year-old accused of shooting his mother to death won’t be tried as adult

By Katie Evans
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 - 06:19:52 am MST

BISBEE — A 12-year-old Douglas boy accused of shooting his mother to death will not be tried as an adult.

Judge James Conlogue made the ruling during a hearing in Cochise County Superior Court Division 5 on Monday. The hearing included testimony from a psychiatrist and psychologist, both by phone, brought forward as witnesses by the defense.

Testimony from the two witnesses portrayed the juvenile as a boy who suffered both physical and verbal abuse from his mother, though there was no documentation from Child Protective Services, or otherwise, to back up this claim.


Both the psychologist and the psychiatrist testified they thought the boy could be rehabilitated in the juvenile justice system.

The prosecution, led by Deputy Cochise County Attorney Gregory Johnson, had requested the boy be tried as an adult because of the severity of the crime.

“This is first-degree, premeditated murder,” Johnson said in closing arguments, saying the evaluations done by the witnesses were made after spending only about 90 minutes with the juvenile. In addition, “there’s no evidence to rebut those (reports of abuse)” that the witnesses discussed.

The juvenile has been held at the Cochise County Juvenile Detention Center in Sierra Vista since Aug. 2. He is facing charges of first-degree murder for shooting Sara Madrid, his mother, on Aug. 1.

The Herald/Review will not identify the boy because of his juvenile status.

The boy is accused of shooting Madrid multiple times with a small-caliber handgun after she and her live-in boyfriend, Alfonso Muñoz, returned to their home in the 2500 block of Oak Avenue, Douglas.

Muñoz was not present at Monday’s hearing.

According to a probable-cause statement from August, Muñoz reported that Madrid had been arguing with the juvenile at the residence, then left with Muñoz for 45 minutes. The shooting took place when they returned.

Johnson said when evaluating what is required by legislation to determine if the boy should be tried as an adult, that the seriousness of the crime, the number of victims — which included not just Madrid but family members and friends who have been affected by the alleged crime — the fact that the juvenile was “100 percent responsible for this crime,” and does not suffer from mental illness, among several other factors, justified doing so.

“This was cold, calculated murder,” Johnson said.

Cochise County Deputy Public Defender Sanford Edelman, the juvenile’s attorney, argued that “this is clearly a tragedy that began at least a generation ago,” referring to testimony from his witnesses, which suggested that the abuse the boy allegedly experienced from his mother was the result of abuse she allegedly experienced at the hand of her stepfather as a child.

In addition, Edelman argued that the juvenile detention system offered the boy more of a chance of rehabilitation than the adult system.

“We’re not talking about rehabilitation in the adult system,” Edelman said. “We’re talking about life in prison for a 12-year-old.”

“I’m not suggesting that he’s an innocent person. I’m not suggesting that he didn’t commit a horrendous act,” Edelman continued. “He’s a young man who needs some help ... he needs that help to grow up.”

Edelman pointed out that the juvenile never had any problems in school, nor with other people, prior to this incident.

Conlogue said, upon reviewing the evidence, that he felt that “it is likely the juvenile can be rehabilitated.”

“This is not an easy case,” the judge said, describing what the boy did as a “horrible offense.”

Another hearing is set for Dec. 24, to be continued on Jan. 2. No ruling was made whether to release the boy to the custody of his aunt, Helen Taylor.

Taylor, who was present for the hearing with other family, could be heard whispering “Thank God,” as Conlogue denied the motion to try the juvenile as an adult.

“I’m just happy,” Taylor said following the hearing. “I’m just elated.”

Herald/Review reporter Katie Evans can be reached at 515-4611 or by e-mail at katie.evans@svherald.com.

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    twisted reality seems normal wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:12 AM:

    " This is amazing. This is a cold-blooded murder. She left after the "fight" and when she came back he killed her. He had time to think about it and decided to kill her. Okay, he is 12. At that age I was able to decide right from wrong. I am not saying lock him up and throw away the key, but he needs some intense punishment. Killing at 12 is not a good start for him or anyone that comes in contact with him for that matter... "

    Whynot Earp wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:35 PM:

    " 12 year old shoots mother, 8 year old shoots father, having the right to have a gun doesn't mean it's the wisest thing to do, especially if you have kids. "

    disgusted wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:08 PM:

    " Welcome to cochise county - home of the misdemeanor murder. In today's society, child abuse is defined as "grounding a kid for missing curfew, taking away a privilege for lying, making a kid do chores....." etc. "

    s walsh wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:28 PM:

    " The chain of abuse is real. I experienced it. You can rehab thru it with therpy. You have no idea how verbal abuse can damage, but you can change once you realize what caused it. What is hard is living with what was done. He will always live with that. It's hard to live with something that you really had no control over. Young people act out what they see. We all know that. "

    impartial_reader wrote on Nov 11, 2008 6:56 PM:

    " Is Taylor his Aunt on his mother's side? As in, "You shot down my sister, come live with me???" "

    concerned parent wrote on Nov 11, 2008 6:53 PM:

    " The issue of whose gun is was, blah, blah, blah was already dredged up the last time the hearld ran a piece on this incident. Yes, we agree already, the gun SHOULD have been locked up!
    Judge Conologue did not face an easy decision, and he had to weigh the facts (yes people,FACTS) of the case. Personally,I think he did the right thing.I'm sure all you hypocrites who would like to lock the child up and throw away the key have learned from your mistakes,why should this kid be any different? BTW problem does not have a U "

    simplyme wrote on Nov 11, 2008 6:51 PM:

    " I told you so. This child has problems and you can only be abused (mentally and/or physically) before you can't take it anymore. There are guidelines for trying a minor as an adult and this one didn't justify it which, I thought from the start. If that was the case how would you feel? If that were the case and you were him how would you feel? "

    To old school principles wrote on Nov 11, 2008 6:25 PM:

    " Right, bring up the abuse thing that probably never happened, kind of like the Twinky defense from years ago.
    This person was 12, and if he doesn't know that killing is wrong at 12, he never will. "

    Sad wrote on Nov 11, 2008 11:48 AM:

    " This seems to be happening more and more. I wonder if the current laws are making it easier for these teens/children by letting them know that they might only have to spend a few years in jail for murder? I know I don't know the whole story but 8 years served in jail doesn't seem long enough for murder. "

    So sad wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:43 AM:

    " Regardless of whether he serves time in a juvi, adult prison, or a mental fac. he will NEVER be "okay" to function is this world. Can you imagine if he is fully "rehabilitated" and released like a normal citizen and having to live with this kind of past? I mean...REALLY think about it! I mean wow...I can't even think of a solution to this...he is ruined! "

    Thinking wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:30 AM:

    " The gun is not responsible for the shooting. The user is. Doesn't matter how he got it, it was how he used it that caused such a loss. At 12 he is old enough to know better. This was no accident. "

    old school principles wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:58 AM:

    " "cold calculated murder"? if the boy suffered abuse both mentally and physically that was "cold" and "horrible" and felt there was no one to protect him, he felt he needed to protect himself. the doctors didn't report that he had other issues only that he suffered abuse from the one person he should have been able to trust completely. I hope that he gets the help he needs and that the circumstance on a whole is completely considered. "

    KB wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:45 AM:

    " You know, it is ridiculous to jump to charging the owner of the gun in this case. There is no law requiring a firearm to be locked up. And the shooter is a 12-year-old. That's old enough to look for and find a gun. And it may be old enough to figure out a combination lock, if the gun was secured. Knock off the self-righteous "guns are dangerous" stuff. So are cars, but we give 16-year-olds keys all the time. "

    Justice wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:41 AM:

    " Rehabilitated? Our justice system is insane and beyond rehabilitation. "

    no name please wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:56 AM:

    " if you let him get away with this crime then you are saying to all kids with problums in the home that it is to kill your parent. what kind of example are you setting to the kids in the world. if the boy way 15 or even a adult then you would have no problum putting him in jail for life, saying that he is responsible for his own actions. i think that the ruling is a mistake. what will you do when he gets mad in the future and kills someone else. he will get away with it. "

    Geeze wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:31 AM:

    " Two shrinks think he can be rehabilitated. A good place to have him do it would be in their homes. "

    Torin wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:01 AM:

    " Hmmm, where was the gun taken from? Not locked up very well was it. Was the gun the boyfriends' or hers I wonder? If it was the boyfriends' gun will he then face charges? "

    a readder of this story wrote on Nov 11, 2008 6:57 AM:

    " you know how can someone judge him when none of us was in his shoes and we didnt know what went on behind closed door. yeah it wasnt right what he did but you no one knows what was done to him also . i feel for the family losen a love one too and yes he was wrong "

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