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Votes still being counted in Maricopa County

By Howard Fischer
Capitol Media Services
Published/Last Modified on Monday, Nov 10, 2008 - 06:21:01 am MST

PHOENIX — The outcome of several key races may not be known for at least a week, in part because many voters didn’t follow directions.

Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell said Sunday night that election workers were re-doing about 89,000 ballots by hand — ballots where the pens or other devices used to mark choices bled through to the other side of the paper. That creates stray marks on the opposite side of the two-sided ballot, making it impossible for the machines that scan the papers to determine the voter’s intent.

“We don’t know what they were using,” Purcell said, despite instructions to use only a black pen.

In other cases, voters crossed out one choice and put in others, used blue ink that does not record or made other stray lines.



Purcell said election workers can only create from 10,000 to 12,000 new ballots each day, working seven days a week, usually until 10 p.m.

On top of that, the county got 112,000 “provisional” ballots, where voters had identification but the address on a driver’s license did not match the one in county records. That requires election officials to go through each one and determine if the person was, in fact, legally allowed to vote.

Similar situations may exist in the other 14 counties.

The bottom line is that several races remain two close to call six days after ballots were cast.

That includes who will get the third open seat on the Arizona Corporation Commission. Republican Bob Stump led Democrat Sam George by fewer than 1,100 votes according to the last report by the Secretary of State’s Office.

The large number of uncounted ballots also could change the outcome of Proposition 101. That measure, which sought to constitutionally preclude any sort of state-imposed universal health care, was trailing at last count by about 12,000 vote.

Also up in the air is the makeup of the next state Legislature.

The difference in votes in several races could change with all the ballots yet to be counted.

For example, Democrat Rae Waters leads Republican Jeff Dial by about 400 votes in the House race in District 20 which includes parts of Chandler and Ahwatukee. And about 600 votes separate Republican Frank Pratt from John Fillmore, also a Republican, to fill one of two House seats in District 23 which stretches from Apache Junction through Pinal County to the Pima County line.

Preliminary results show Republicans picking up two seats in the state House, bringing the margin there to 35-25. And they look to adding another Republican in the Senate to increase their lead there over Democrats to 18-12.



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    billy g wrote on Nov 11, 2008 6:11 PM:

    " Mike are you sure all ballots have been counted? Editor is Mike right? "

    Mike Jackson wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:59 AM:

    " & w/final results in, Stump wins by about 3000 votes over George. "

    billy g wrote on Nov 11, 2008 2:52 AM:

    " Here is what is really disturbing quote from the county recorder: "Purcell said election workers can only CREATE from 10,000 to 12,000 NEW ballots each day, working seven days a week" now we have election workers creating ballots? based on what? on what they think a voter meant!!! Come on a spoiled ballot is just that and any attempt to read the mind of the voter is fraud. This stinks.Flordia again!!!! "

    Independent wrote on Nov 11, 2008 12:03 AM:

    " Kudos to Tom Schilling for the smooth election operation in CoCo. And thanks to the poll workers for spending 14 hours or more, without relief, working to make it possible for us to vote in person. "

    azdave wrote on Nov 10, 2008 1:34 PM:

    " This is pretty funny ... people too dumb to read and follow instructions (with pictures even!) are still considered smart enough to vote. No wonder we get the kind of elected officials that we do. "

    voter wrote on Nov 10, 2008 12:31 PM:

    " scary... as those who can't follow the simple instructions on the mechanics of voting are seemingly unlikely to be able to apply any intelligence to selecting their choices. "

    Uneducated County Workers wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:51 AM:

    " The problems is that those like the no-voters on the schools override are responsible for this vote counting mess. If our schools were properly funded, the county government could hire intelligent employees to run the recorder's office. When you pay for substandard education, you get substandard employees. Our great nation could send a man to the moon in the 60s and now can't even figure out how to count votes. "

    AZ Native wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:21 AM:

    " What do you expect with AZ becoming more filled with those who are using means that are not legal to vote for laws outside of their own country? "

    mae wrote on Nov 10, 2008 6:32 AM:

    " voters need to become more responible to knowing how to vote and follow directions or their vote is not counted. this is too costly to all taxpayers to be paying someone to spend weeks counting votes because voters do not follow directions. if thier vote is not counted it is the voters fault for not understanding black pen means black pen. fill in cirle does not mean an X. common voters kindergarten children can follow these directions why can't adults "

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