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ELECTION 2008: Obama gets historic win

Illinois senator first black man elected to be U.S. president; McCain concedes in Phoenix, says people have spoken clearly

By DAVID ESPO
Associated Press
Published/Last Modified on Wednesday, Nov 05, 2008 - 06:21:03 am MST

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama swept to victory as the nation’s first black president Tuesday night in an electoral college landslide that overcame racial barriers as old as America itself. “Change has come,” he told a jubilant hometown Chicago crowd estimated at nearly a quarter-million people.

The son of a black father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas, the Democratic senator from Illinois sealed his historic triumph by defeating Republican Sen. John McCain in a string of wins in hard-fought battleground states — Ohio, Florida, Iowa and more. He captured Virginia, too, the first candidate of his party in 44 years to do so.

On a night for Democrats to savor, they not only elected Obama the nation’s 44th president but padded their majorities in the House and Senate, and in January will control both the White House and Congress for the first time since 1994.

A survey of voters leaving polling places showed the economy was by far the top Election Day issue. Six in 10 voters said so, and none of the other top issues — energy, Iraq, terrorism and health care — was picked by more than one in 10.


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Obama’s election capped a meteoric rise — from mere state senator to president-elect in four years.

Spontaneous celebrations erupted from Atlanta to New York and Philadelphia as word of Obama’s victory spread. A big crowd filled Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House.

In his first speech as victor, to an enormous throng at Grant Park in Chicago, Obama catalogued the challenges ahead. “The greatest of a lifetime,” he said, “two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century.”

He added, “There are many who won’t agree with every decision or policy I make as president, and we know that government can’t solve every problem. But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face.”

McCain called his former rival to concede defeat — and the end of his own 10-year quest for the White House. “The American people have spoken, and spoken clearly,” McCain told disappointed supporters in Arizona.

President Bush added his congratulations from the White House, where his tenure runs out on Jan. 20. “May God bless whoever wins tonight,” he had told dinner guests earlier.

Obama, in his speech, invoked the words of Lincoln and seemed to echo John F. Kennedy.

“So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of service and responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder,” he said.

He and his running mate, Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, will take their oaths of office as president and vice president on Jan. 20, 2009. McCain remains in the Senate. Sarah Palin, McCain’s running mate, returns to Alaska as governor after a tumultuous debut on the national stage.

He will move into the Oval Office as leader of a country that is almost certainly in recession, and fighting two long wars, one in Iraq, the other in Afghanistan.

The popular vote was close — 51.3 percent to 47.5 percent with 73 percent of all U.S. precincts tallied — but not the count in the Electoral College, where it mattered most.

There, Obama’s audacious decision to contest McCain in states that hadn’t gone Democratic in years paid rich dividends.

After midnight in the East, The Associated Press count showed Obama with 338 electoral votes, well over the 270 needed for victory. McCain had 141 after winning states that comprised the normal Republican base, including Texas and most of the South.

Interviews with voters suggested that almost six in 10 women were backing Obama nationwide, while men leaned his way by a narrow margin. Just over half of whites supported McCain, giving him a slim advantage in a group that Bush carried overwhelmingly in 2004.

The results of the AP survey were based on a preliminary partial sample of nearly 10,000 voters in Election Day polls and in telephone interviews over the past week for early voters.

Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

• AGE-BIRTH DATE-LOCATION — 47; Aug. 4, 1961; Honolulu.

• EXPERIENCE — U.S. Senate, 2005-present; Illinois state Senate, 1997-2004; constitutional law instructor, University of Chicago, 1993-2004; director, Project VOTE in Illinois, 1992; former practicing attorney.

• EDUCATION — Attended Occidental College, 1979-1981; bachelor’s degree in political science, Columbia University, 1983; law degree, Harvard University, 1991.



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    David wrote on Nov 22, 2008 6:26 AM:

    " Geez, where did everybody go? "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:10 PM:

    " To Math Grad: Are you afraid of the truth? Why do you want the comments closed? Is it because we are right? "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:08 PM:

    " To Real Mature: Ok next time get some real news because that site is fake as they come. All you liberals know how to do is spread lies. If you are going to say something libelous like that then get a real source next time liar. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:56 PM:

    " To Please: Just like liberals trying to silence the voice of opposition. You guys just hate it when we are right and can prove it and you are wrong and we can prove that too. You just don't want to hear the truth because you just cannot handle the truth. "

    Math Grad wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:03 PM:

    " Apparently the editor can't count, this is the 15th day of comments. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 19, 2008 5:46 PM:

    " To: To Bisbee Reject
    WMD's were indeed found in Iraq! 500 metric ton's of Yellow cake uranium was removed from Iraq. That's enough uranium to create 2 "Fat Man" nuclear bombs!
    Once again here is the link;
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html "
    What's a matter To Bisbee Reject, are you afraid of history too? LOL, doesn't surprise me that you are! LOL! I love the Ostrich's that post here! "

    Real Mature wrote on Nov 19, 2008 5:42 PM:

    " Tuesday, November 18, 2008
    Cheney indicted for prison profiteering
    Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales indicted for criminal conspiracy in private prison profiteering, resulting in prisoner assaults...
    Click link below for the whole story http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2008/11/cheney-indicted-for-prison-profiteering.html, I am on the side of truth, it's pretty simple, so stop this back and forth division. This is only the beginning of charges, do not trust "mainstream media", their liars. And don't respond without reading the link. I am tired of wasting my time here. I appreciate that some of you are in the know, but others .... "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 19, 2008 5:31 PM:

    " Hmmm, The bottom line is YOU GOT 4 YEARS!!
    4 years to create a booming economy
    4 years to create a surplus
    4 years to balance a budget
    4 years to end terrorism
    4 years to unite a nation
    4 years to eliminate poverty in America
    4 years to gain a worlds respect
    And 4 years to prove your man is worthy of another 4 years in office!!!
    That's a lot of campaign promises your man made.... and you only have 4 years to accomplish them all!! LOL!!!
    GOOD LUCK! LOL!! Don't let Peggy Joseph down LOL!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 19, 2008 3:13 PM:

    " Ok Hummm so now you are changing your name eh? Got anything other than name calling? So, WMDs was the ONLY reason we went to war in iraq is what you are saying? So, Bush was the one that lied to the American people? What does that say about your hero billy? ""One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - http://www.cnn.com/US/9802/04/us.un.iraq/ This is too easy. "

    Commander in Chief wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:55 PM:

    " Yes. Even though some may not like it. President elect Barak Husein Obama will soon be my and your Commander in Chief. Being in the military I will respect and honor that position and the man that occupies it. Those of you that have a problem with this need to face reality and get over it and on with it. President elect Obama is our new Commander in Chief. "

    ZEb nope wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:32 PM:

    " If Obama doesn't perform then he will face the same fate as the bush did and probably get re-elected. It won't really matter. However, with the US in a recession caused by bush policies there is no place to go but up. Thanks to bush the bar has now been lowered to the ground. It is impossible to make this crises any worse. Bush brought us to the bottom via the over spending in Iraq Expressway. Zeb are you really worried about what ifs? Why not, not worry about Obama and start doing something productive. "

    ZEb nope wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:27 PM:

    " Our financial problems have nothing to do with unions... Where did you dream up that one? Try over spending by bush, which weakened the dollar. Bush neglected domestic spending for 7 1/2 years and spent all your tax dollars rebuilding Iraq. Iraq is not in a financial crises. They have more money (your money) then they know what to do with. Perhaps if the neocon elitists(republicans) were asleep at the wheel we wouldn't have crashed. Like there is only one driver there is only one president steering this country. Bush became a puppet of the Iraqi's! "

    Please wrote on Nov 19, 2008 12:56 PM:

    " To Zeb:
    You're not heppy? Really? I couldn't tell. You may be using facts, but the point remains that your complaining isn't going to do anything. ANd yes, you were name calling, and it wasn't at a minimum. Just stop it! We're trying to save our country, not bring it down by hating on each other. Washington was right- he didn't want political parties. Can we PLEASE close the comments or something? "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 19, 2008 10:19 AM:

    " It is even more transparent that Obama is indebted to Organized Unions and those debts will be paid. No, I would be proud to have a black man in the White House IF I did not feel that he was being used and manipulated. This country is in deep financial trouble. Much of that trouble is because of Unions. Even a trip to the grocery store will show you that the dollar is worth even less than it was a year ago. Open your eyes, I fear that Obama is nothing more than a puppet for the white Democrats. "

    To Bisbee Reject wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:46 AM:

    " Some Dems voted for the war because they believed Bush and what he said. I guess you were living in a cave at the time... Then when the truth came out that there were no WMD's and that Bush had lied to the American people behind the reason for the invasion most Dems voted against funding for an illigitimate war, like yourself. You really are ignorant, because I can't believe there are people that dumb roaming around on our streets. "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:25 AM:

    " Jay, I am not whining I have been relating FACTS about the history of the Democrats and the way they have abused and used black people.
    If the white Democrats did not want Obama to be the President he would not have made it past the primary! Even as he stands on that stage smiling proudly if he doesn't perform as his "handlers" demand of him, he'll very likely be in danger from his own party! When a black person takes something from the Democrat Party it's like taking candy from a stranger, it's a BIG RISK! "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:06 AM:

    " To Hereford Resident, I agree %100. I still like them trying to blame the current economic condition solely on Bush although it was largely congress that came up with the "Community Re-investment Act" on steroids in the 90's where banks were forced to loan money to people that were not credit worthy all in the name of politically correct social engineering. Later as banks started to fail congress made freddy mac and Fannie may absorb the bad paper and even blocked an investigation into the situation because they all stood to make allot of money in contributions. "

    Upright wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:47 AM:

    " Zeb wrote: "I kept my name calling to a minimum." Zeb, you're kidding, right? Jay, thanks for your well-reasoned post. You give me hope that we can all work together, after all. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:29 AM:

    " To Are You KKK: Just because I and others here don't like Obama makes us racist? You are an idiot because I am no wheres near being a racist. I do not like any of Obama's policies or his associations. If the man was white and had the same exact views and associations I would still be against him. You are a typical liberal moron thinking it is racist because we dislike Obama. "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 19, 2008 6:22 AM:

    " To Humm, My, aren't we getting testy, although you wouldn't be you if you didn't rely on name calling so much. If the voting was done to stop the conflict why did they vote to start it then? Is this how democrats are "for" the military? Vote to send them into action then vote against giving them the tools to do it? "

    David wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:48 AM:

    " Now that a few posts have been made in an attempt (I am supposing) to educate all a bit, I would like to let you all know why I voted against Obama. I just don't trust him. Period. There are a zillion reasons that he gave me to not trust him, we were all bombarded by that for way too long. This is my last comment here. Remember people that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Educate your children (no matter how old they may) be in the truth, not the many rewrites. "

    Jay wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:30 AM:

    " I am an independent voter who did vote for Senator McCain. The discussion spans both sides of the spectrum. Why are assuming something else? All the comments are being recycled. When you can add something new, factual, and not opinionated then do so. However, almost all comments including yours Zeb lack merit or fruitfulness. You seem bitter. I am disappointed McCain didn't win, but I am not part of your hateful vengence that you portray. Will your whining solve anything? "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:18 PM:

    " Funding was voted against to stop the conflict. Are you that ignorant or are simply dumb? Please respond Bisbee reject. "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:16 PM:

    " Free thinker you said Obama wouldn't get elected... Now you say he won't get re-elected... Ummm you are dillusional and well wrong. Your mind is a bloody mess. I would really like to meet you someday though. Tell what days they allow visitors :) God loves most people but probably not you. Sorry. "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:13 PM:

    " With great gun control in AZ why we would want to ever change anything?


    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/18/arizona.boy.murder/index.html "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:07 PM:

    " hummer, I was happy to talk about history I kept my name calling to a minimum. I do not have any respect for the Democrats so the little names I use for them are jokes. However calling people KKK members and making up lies in order to obfuscate the truth about history that we were discussing was beyond the usual "Random Dimmercrat Dirty Tricks". It made me angry because I have seen how the Democrats have mistreated and used black people ALL of my life. A person with self respect does sell out for so many empty promises. "

    hummer wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:15 PM:

    " You guys need to take a chill pill. This is a forum for debates not a insult contest. I'm sure you all will win converts over to your opinions by belittling and stereotyping those that oppose you into some neat nice package. I'm sure that tactic works somewhere in this world. "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:42 PM:

    " I don't think the KKK would let me join. One of my relatives was a Buffalo Soldier in the 24th in Korea, and I resent your accusations! This is the kind of lie that a Dummycrat who is losing a debate uses! You have a lot of nerve to claim to be a Republican, you are a liar! Gee, I guess that means you could be a great politician one day. I won't be voting for you though because you ARE a DUMMYCRAT, and like many Dummycrats YOU ARE A RACIST TOO! TRUTH HURTS DON'T IT!!!? LIAR! "

    OMG wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:36 PM:

    " The posters on here have no idea what is going on in this nation or world, yet they spew. "

    Real Mature wrote on Nov 18, 2008 5:36 PM:

    " Let me break it down for you "Hereford". I was not changing my "Name" to throw anyone off,you knew who I was. You assume to much. Because I speak out against Obama or Bush should tell you I am not a supporter of either party. I wouldn't claim either party. I am an independant, a free thinker. Both have almost destroyed us and aren't done yet. Obama has yet to even proof his citizenship. If I thought you were reasonable I would keep this up. U can't handle thetruth. Peace. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 18, 2008 5:27 PM:

    " I love this! The Democrats worst nightmare is HISTORY! LOL! Watch them try to re-write it! LOL! Hmm has already begun too by re-writing President Clinton's own words. LOL! Jay wants this thread closed in fear those who are curious will check on the links I posted. LOL! & the rest of you Democrats just don't want to accept the fact that the country is divided more than it ever was!!! But, don't worry, the attacks on Obama will only last 4 years. Because he won't get re-elected! "

    Are You KKK wrote on Nov 18, 2008 5:18 PM:

    " I won't visit this specific forum anymore because I believe Hereford Resident and his croonies (all the ones who agree with him here) are KKK or White Supremacists! I'm a White Republican myself and I spent the first 12 years of my life in Alabama. Therefore, I can smell KKK a mile away! Those of you who disagree with Hereford Resident and his croonies are wasting your valuable time because they are damaged beyond repair. They got it from birth! "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 18, 2008 3:33 PM:

    " Jay: Why do you want to close the comments? We are discussing our reasons for not being happy that Obama was elected. Obama never came to campaign in AZ. We don't know anything about him except things like his wife said he's "snorey and stinky" in the mornings. I have NO idea what she means by that. I don't see why you would not want us to at least have a place to express ourselves and to speak freely about how politics have evolved. Does what we are saying make you uncomfortable? You are free to leave. "

    David wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:12 PM:

    " Zeb, don't forget the Arkansas Democrat Governor Faubus who not only defied the Brown v. Board of Ed. ruling, but dispatched his National Guard to PREVENT 9 black High School Students from attending Central High.
    The Republican President Eisenhower dispatched the 327th of the 101st Airborne to Little Rock to make sure these 9 kids could go to school. Nice little sojourn through History Zeb, this should happen more often, especially in the scrools. Bo Snerdley recently said "If they knew the history of the Democrat Party, many black Democrats would run from it immediately." "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:00 PM:

    " To Bisbee Moron: That is because Hmmmmm does not understand that it was Congress that authorized the war. Bush could not do it alone. Libs always seem to leave out the democrats involvement anytime they bash Bush. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:59 PM:

    " Zeb they became democrats because the dems like to give away money from hard working people to people that are lazy and think it is owed to them. You are right though. Why are blacks dems when it was a republican that freed the slaves, not a democrat? "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:37 PM:

    " To Hummm, Since Bush sent them in so unprepared why did your democrat buddies in congress vote to cut funding to them on top of it? "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:20 PM:

    " In the 50s and 60s there were a lot of KKK in the South. While it was true that not all Dummycrats were Klan, ALL Klan were Democrat. A good example: Gov. George Wallace, Dummycrat from Alabama. "I say segregation today segregation tomorrow segregation forever..." These words came from his Inaugural Addresss as Governor in 1963 Later that year he would stand at the doors of the University of Alabama to prevent black students from entering, Federal Marshalls, National Guard and Deputy Attorney Gen. finally convinced him to step aside. What turned the black people into Dummycrats? "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:33 AM:

    " Please: Obama won the election, it doesn't mean that we have to be happy.
    Many of us recognize the Dimmercrat Party as being the source of the Presidents who disgrace our country with scandal or as the mealy mouth liars. As history goes Polk, Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson ALL Dummycrats got us into (or kept us into) the Mexican War, WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam! Nixon was the President who got us OUT of Vietnam.
    The Civil War started when a Republican was in office. More on the history of Dummycrats and racial issues soon. "

    Jay wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:20 AM:

    " Might be a good idea to close the comments "

    To Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:20 AM:

    " Bush protecting us??? With over 4,500 killed and over 100,000 wounded how do you call that protecting? He is not protecting us he is protecting Iraqi's. Bush hasn't done anything for us, but allowed us to attacked on 9/11 then he sacrificed thousands of American lives for Iraqi independence. And we benefited how? Oh yeah we flipped the bill for this and then bush payed off terrorists so they would stop attacking the military. What a guy. "

    makes me laugh wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:00 AM:

    " Why are so many people discussing this? Seems like a done deal to me. Obama won- case closed. Why all the congratulations and crticisms toward him? You are wasting your time. Believe me, he doesn't read the Sierra Vista Herald. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:51 AM:

    " Also to all you liberals out there. Your boy Obama is going to close Gitmo down so where are all these prisoners going to go? Are we going to release a bunch of terrorists back into the wild so they can come back and attack us someday? Apparently Obama only thinks as far as he thinks the publicity will take him. Already before he takes office he is screwing up. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:49 AM:

    " To Real mature: First get a handle and stick with it like most of us do here. It seems the left changes their names every post. At least I keep the same name as do most of the folks on here that agree with me. Second I did say something constructive but as you libs always do you don't actually read it or ignore it. Tell me what did your buddy Billy boy do to protect this country while he was in office? I can tell you, NOTHING. At least Bush is protecting us. "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:02 AM:

    " To ZEB I guess you have never heard of sarcasm... Free thinker, did Clinton send in ground troops as a permanent fixture? Nope? Did Saddam use chemical weapons against the US? Nope. Did he threaten to do so? Nope. Am I angry? Nope. Are you laughable at your angry comments? Yep! Did we find WMD? Nope. Iraq has always been about avenging daddy bush. Israel took care of the nuke issue there in the 80's. Bush sent in the military unprepared and ill equiped to deal with the aftermath of his actions. Bush should be held responsible for that. "

    Real Mature wrote on Nov 17, 2008 7:14 PM:

    " To Hereford Resident, Throwing around personal insults is typical when you can't think of anything constructive to say and feel cornered. That's ok, I am used to your kind. You assume I don't have issues with Clinton. Corruption goes way back. You need to look at the big picture. The ones who hold office do not necessarily hold the power. I will refrain from name calling myself, I am trying to do you guys a favor. Did you bother to watch the link? Some get so defensive when someone disagrees. "

    WOW wrote on Nov 17, 2008 7:12 PM:

    " After reading most of these comments, I must be living in the most uneducated part of the country, namely the Sierra Visa area. "

    Please wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:37 PM:

    " This is just dumb. Look, Obama is the next President. He is a Democrat. There's nothing you can do about it at this point, and insulting everyone who disagrees with you- either way- is not helping.
    Congatulations, Obama. I know that you'll do what you think is right, and that's all we can ask of anyone. "

    MAG wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:00 PM:

    " To be fair Abul Abbas and other wanted terrorists were found in Iraq and Clinton as well as other Intel services i.e. British, German etc... also thought there were WMD's there. Saddam even boasted about hitting America with nerve agent. I do believe we took our eye off the real target, that being Afghanistan. But it is equally not telling the truth that there was reason to hit Iraq. Regardless of 20/20 past vision, a President's main duty is took protect the U.S. I have other differences with Bush, this I do not. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:55 AM:

    " People, don't get fooled by the angry lefties. All you need to know about the war in Iraq begins with this link to history:
    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
    Copy & paste it into your address bar & read it for yourself. This war in Iraq was premeditated almost 10 years ago in the oval office & not on a ranch in Crawford TX as Hmmm & Wide Awake will mislead you to believe. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:47 AM:

    " But wait, there's still more Hmmm..
    Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
    The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people. Bringing change in Baghdad will take time and effort. We will strengthen our engagement with the full range of Iraqi opposition forces and work with them effectively and prudently.
    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:42 AM:

    " Just for you Hmmm..
    Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:23 AM:

    " To:Wide Awake
    We never found WMDs? LOL! what do you call 500 metric tons of Yellow Cake Uranium? Playdo? LOL!
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:21 AM:

    " To:Wide Awake
    Yes he (Obama) did say we need to focus on Afghanistan but on 11/8/08 President elect Obama held his very first economic press conference & told the media in attendance that his administration will not remove any troops from Iraq unless Gen. Petraeus gives him the green light.
    We had Afghanistan secured then NATO dropped the ball. See what happens when we remove the troops prematurely. You want that to happen again in Iraq? "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:21 AM:

    " Hmmmm, I wanted to speak to you about THIS comment:
    "Oh yeah now we are going to take all your guns away the put you away! :)"
    What kind of dope were you smoking when you said THAT? I wanted to let you know that you can buy adult diapers, even "astronaut diapers"! Before you come for our guns you better get some of those bigboy diapers because it would be a shame for you to soil your britches when you get disappointed instead of getting our guns. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:15 AM:

    " To: Hmmm
    Clinton didn't start anything against Iraq? LOL! Tell me that again LOL!
    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:43 AM:

    " Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson AND Bill Clinton ALL Dimmercrat Presidents ALL ADULTERERS while they held the office of President. I can't find any evidence that Jimmy Carter had a woman besides his wife but I believe that he's terminally stupid.
    Now what I would like to know is: How long do you suppose we are going to have to wait for Obama to get caught with his pants down? Democrats are noted for ADULTEROUS infidelities. I still hear how great Clinton was. Nobody cares about the girl's life he ruined because he's a pig. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:35 AM:

    " To Free Thinker. You are correct but every time you mention Clinton they scurry back to bashing Bush. They don't want to admit that Clinton screwed things up so much that Bush had no choice to do what he did. Maybe if Clinton had some backbone 9-11 would have never happened. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:21 AM:

    " To Upright: No the reason why Obama won is that a lot of people that voted for him were very misinformed. Trust me they will be angry as heck after January 20th, 2009 after they find out the change Obama promised was a smoke screen to get him elected. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:18 AM:

    " To WatchTheLink: How come you guys keep forgetting about slick willy? He had plenty of opportunities to get rid of Osama but failed to. We had over 5 attacks against this country during slick willy's administration and he did nothing about it. We have had one under Bush and he did something about it. You are an idiot to think otherwise. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 17, 2008 4:54 AM:

    " Free Thinker, He actually said that we needed to focuse on Afganistahn were the Terrorist are. Do you see what you are doing. You are grasping at any straw to put an Admistration in a bad light that has not even takin office? Can you see that you are running around in a circle with this whole "Blind leading the Blind", "are you a Patriot nonsense." As you focus on everything but the Truth the people who started this war are getting rich. How come you can't see this. The only one's to profit from 100 dollar oil. Texans "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 17, 2008 4:17 AM:

    " Now they retreat into, "We'll ya see in 1989 when....." Face it, THERE WHERE NO TERROISTS, hence the Rule of Saddam. ANy way you go, stick to a linear arguement and you lose. GW went to war to avenge his daddy. He and his staff has admitted to the SPIN now go back to the treaty of Versailles.... Stop the Flanking Manuvers.Did you learn nothing else from your enlistment then how to Argue Loss. We never found any WMD's or terrorists. The are in Afganistahn with all the DOPE. Yes Afganistahn is the Chinese drug dealers house. "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 16, 2008 7:20 PM:

    " Clinton didn't start anything against Iraq. Free thinker we already know you have discredited yourself by your biased opinions and lack of current event knowledge... Iraq was attacked because it violated the no-fly zone a program that Bush senior had put in place after he decided to run back across the border instead of finishing the job. The group Al Qaeda in Iraq never existed in Iraq until Bush junior decided to make the US a permanent fixture there. everyone already knows this but you it sounds like. "

    David wrote on Nov 16, 2008 3:05 PM:

    " More for "Upright"
    Your kind seem to think that the Constitution only applies to you, that you can say or do anything to anyone at anytime. Should someone disagree or lament they are called racist or hater or some other schoolyard name immediately.
    When you do have a minor victory you all pirouette in unison in your rainbow colored tutu's while crying foul against the Conservatives who didn't vote for the Socialist or the Liberal on the ticket.
    And that dear "Upright", is why Obama won. The Conservatives didn't vote for either Obama or Mcain. "

    David wrote on Nov 16, 2008 2:55 PM:

    " I wasn't going to post anymore, waste of my time, but:
    To Upright: Are you for real or just a "troll" as my grown kids would say.
    This nation has not seen such hatred, disrespect, and vitriol from any one group of people as we have seen from the Democrats for the past 8 years since the 60's kid communists attempt to bring down this country.
    Now your kind are wearing suits and carrying briefcases in the halls of Congress instead of spitting on us at the San Francisco airport.
    And still trying to destroy this Nation.
    How dare you. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 16, 2008 2:18 PM:

    " There were no terrorists in Iraq?
    There were no WMD in Iraq?
    If this is true then explain to me why was it justifiable for President Clinton to bomb Iraq on Dec 16th 1998?
    Why would President Clinton sign the Iraqi-Liberation Act of 1998 into law? You know, the law that grants FULL EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE to use military force in order to remove Saddam Hussein from power.
    I sure would like to hear the outrage from Hmmm & not a saint over what President Clinton started just 10 years ago. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 16, 2008 1:23 PM:

    " Hey Zeb, are you really ZED from PulP Fiction? You sound alot like him. "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 16, 2008 12:07 PM:

    " Firstly, thanks to Hereford Resident.
    Now then...
    Upright are you telling us that as a Dummycrat you can dish it out but you can't take it. AWWW! Maybe you better go find your blankey cause if you keep reading what I have to say about the Dummycrats, your wittle feelings might get hurt. Do you reckon only the Dummycrats have the right to free speach? While we wait on Obama, why don't you tell us how great Clinton was. I will be reading and laughing at YOU! LOL! "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:27 AM:

    " Hereford Resident what are you smoking? When Saddam was in charge there were no terrorists around. In fact OBL wanted the Saudi's to hire him and Al Qaeda to take down Saddam in 1990. What common sense was there to take down Saddam on shaking reporting concerning WMD versus Iran or North Korea that we know has an active WMD program? I guess based on your anti-American activities the government should be watching you now. You have turned the tide and are now an extremist hater. "

    Upright wrote on Nov 16, 2008 8:03 AM:

    " Just want to say that I do not think that very many of the posts here truly reflect thought on either side of the aisle. If they did... *shudder* "

    Upright wrote on Nov 16, 2008 7:27 AM:

    " No one wants to silence the Re-bigot-cans, Rape-publicans, neo-cons, right-wing wing nuts, and what-have-you (understand, this is sarcasm), we just want to dialogue as adults. Heck, even small children know that name-calling is wrong. Most liberals want to meet conservatives half-way but we won’t tolerate being treated disrespectfully. Y’all are marginalizing yourselves with your behavior. This is one reason why Obama won – people are starting to turn away from the vitriol of the Republican Party. "

    Side of Truth wrote on Nov 16, 2008 12:26 AM:

    " If you can watch all 3-parts and not have a little doubt about the "2-Party" system and it's agenda, there is little else to say. Does corruption have to hit you in the face before you see the seriousness of what's happened and could happen when you ignore reality?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6jD_jySiwg&feature=related
    I do think it's possible that the media (in part) may not be aware of all this and may not be ill-intent; but we are certainly not more informed through their efforts. Please, watch the links for yourself and then let me know how your feeling. "

    WatchTheLink wrote on Nov 16, 2008 12:01 AM:

    " "We're safer because of Bush" is nonsense. Bush should be on trial for mass murder along with a bunch of others. You have to look beyond mainstream media, you're being lied to. Bush could have prevented 9/11, he was complicit along with many others. You are going to be really PO'd if and when the truth comes to light. The senators and reps should also be held accountable (on both sides) for not doing their job of supporting the consitution. The Patriot Act was never even read by those that voted 4it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNRSs6LsGeI&feature=related "

    NoMoreDrama wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:36 PM:

    " I really have to say, I think it's very counter-productive to imply it's between "conservatives" and "libs". Because I don't think Obama should be innaugarated I should not be considered a "conservative". Both of the major candidates may likely yield the same results as "not a saint" points out. But I disagree that talking about it is a waste of time. I believe both candidates, Obama in particular have serious citizenship issues. If the cases go anywhere and judges do their job. The predicted outcome could change drastically. Several cases now pending. Lookitup. "

    not a saint wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:03 PM:

    " The Iraq war never had and never will have anything to do with terrorists. Just like the USAID in the Philippines, the thousands of American military in Mindinao and the secret American bases within Philippines bases at Mactan, Clark and Subic all have nothing to do with terrorism. The US is using Iraq as base from which the US could permanently dominate the Gulf region and, if need be, deny oil to China. The US has established a ring of jump sites around Asia and Iraq is only one. We will not be leaving Iraq until China kicks us out. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:48 PM:

    " To Zeb: You hit the nail on the head. Libs want to silence our voices because they know we are right and they can't stand when we go against them. Never have I heard a conservative tell a lib to move out of the country or to shut up. I thought this country allowed free speech but I guess that is in jeopardy now that Nobama was elected. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:39 PM:

    " To Still Awake: you are so blind. If we leave now without a stable government in place in Iraq it will go back to the way it was and terrorists will flourish. What part of finishing the job do you not understand. I swear liberals have no common sense. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:37 PM:

    " To Embarrassed: Ok how exactly did Bush screw this country up. Let's see he has kept us safe for 7 years. He was the one back in 2001 that said that fanny and freddie were getting too big and would fail. It was Clinton and Carter that made this economic mess we are in today. I still don't see where Bush messed up this country like you say. I will never support Obama because a bunch of idiots voted him in even with his weak record and socialist views. "

    not a saint wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:28 PM:

    " We wrestle not against flesh and blood. There are probably some of you who understand that. And some of you who do need to understand also that the republicans and democrats are two sides of the same coin. Those of you who do understand that should understand that politics are a waste of your time. Obama serves the same master as Bush. If you don't see it, then you are deluded indeed. Things do not change. They get new names and new marketing techniques and people forget the deceptions of the past or those who remember die off. "

    DR wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:07 PM:

    " I wasn't all that crazy for GW, and not all the fond of MAC, and Obama? Im not sure about him either, one thing is for sure. Most politicians fall short of the promises they make. "

    DR wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:02 PM:

    " Maybe all presidents should have a priority list of things to do, and then we, as Americans should evaluate the progress, and when they don't succeed without some good reason, they should be impeached. Why not do this for the House and Senate while we are at it? "

    Upright wrote on Nov 15, 2008 5:34 PM:

    " To Zeb: Don't hold back - tell us how you really feel! LOL "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 15, 2008 3:42 PM:

    " It is a real good thing that I don't have to LOVE Obama because I don't even like him. We have been listening to the Dummycrats Bush-bash for 8 years now. Ah but they expect us to "try to get along with or like" Obama? WHY? He isn't "special or great" to us. He's a Dummycrat just like the Dummycrats that elected him. Perhaps it's time for us to be the malcontent trash talking hecklers. We'll see how ya'll like it when we act like Dimmercrats usually act. I think the Republicans have been too nice for too long! "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:36 AM:

    " To Transplant- I was born in Cochise County before Sierra Vista existed. IS THAT NATIVE ENOUGH FOR YOU? I don't have any trouble using the computer. I am tired of the DUMMYCRATS jumping around like a houseful of kids at Christmas with a new toy because they managed to get "their man" in the White House. SO WHAT! In 4 years OR when "the honeymoon" is over and they find out what a hypocrit and liar he is they won't be nearly as giddy! Oh and don't tell me when I can or cannot speak! "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:35 AM:

    " To: To Hereford Resident and Really
    I can't believe you will put the interest of the worlds eyes before the interest of your American brother's Hereford Resident & Really! If this was 1776 you would be referred to as Benedict Arnold. The interest of my American Brothers & Sisters come FIRST! And the rest of the world is BENEATH US! If it wasn't for the U.S.A. the entire world would be speaking German & freedom would be a fantasy. "

    Frank wrote on Nov 15, 2008 8:12 AM:

    " Transplant - I am a native of SE AZ (65 years) and there are people everywhere who may not know or prefer not to operate a computer. That does not make them any less smarter than you, so what was the point? Nothing against transplants, but you may be in need of one. "

    For you all wrote on Nov 15, 2008 7:47 AM:

    " Turnabout is fair play. The Socialists have been demonizing the conservatives for more than 70 years, and the conservatives have for the most part just shut up and took the abuse to avoid appearing "mean spirited". Well sir, this quiet old pensive conservative is tired of being made to call a spade a shovel instead of a spade. I am mad as heck and ain't going to take it any more. It is 70 years past time for conservatives to get mad and take this country back from the 30 percent minority who think they are a majority. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 15, 2008 6:56 AM:

    " Mag, very eloquent. We are all Servants, very true. We are Americans, if America is at war then all Americans are at war. God, Country, Corps. You'll notice Country is after The Almighty and just before The Corps for reason. Standing together as a Nation has long been the Beacon that repelled foreign invaders and brought the countryless refugee to our shores. By this Beacon diminshing through Politcial misdirection, it is then that our enemies attack and we have to release the dogs of war. We need Vigilance on all fronts, domestic and abroad. Watch the Administration and Speak UP "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 15, 2008 6:47 AM:

    " The libs never supported bush they supported his big government programs and spending money like a drunk sailor. I saw the President being called a terrorist, (google's miserable failure), all the calls for impeachment, oh how about cutting off funding to troops already engaged in war? had natural distastes blamed on him, having movies made about someone assassinating him and saying that he caused 911 to name but a few. To say libs supported him is a rewrite of history. They don't HAVE to support him, that's fine, just like we don't have to support Obamma. "

    Really wrote on Nov 15, 2008 1:13 AM:

    " To person w/o an alias, did I strike a nerve? Are you feeling hypicritical? So sad. I guess that's your way of dealing with someone who differs from you? You tell them to leave the country? Again, how sad. I'm a veteran, I've served this country and sacrificed my freedoms for this country. I won't leave it. I helped build it. Don't go crying because I've touched a nerve by pointing out your hypocrisy. Most people I know including myself will support and defend the President even though we did not vote for him. That's been our training and upbringing. "

    To Really wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:33 PM:

    " No one here is asking you to “love Obama” only respect him as the president and stop cursing the future under his rule. It does not seem that you support Obama but if you do fine. The point is each side wants respect for their own. But criticizing each other for this common goal is ridiculous. I am independent and I am sick of each side criticizing for something they would be doing in the same situation. "

    Its good wrote on Nov 14, 2008 8:01 PM:

    " people are working it out here. After the election... my conservative friends went dead silent. Here, they can express their frustrations without putting a face to it. Work it out people. Obama is our soon-to-be president, and no matter what, we'll all have to live with it. Hopefully, we will all support him eventually. I've read a few here that say, and I'm paraphrasing; "You libs didn't support Bush, why should we support Obama?" The "Libs" DID support bush, just look at what a majority of dem congress passed through under bush! Reps messed it up. Next. "

    To Hereford Resident and Really wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:02 PM:

    " To Hereford Resident and Really: No, we don't want to conform you to our way of thinking, we just want you to leave this country! LOL. Because you are an embarassment to us in the world's eye! Yes, we did support Bush and his idiotic agenda for 8 years because he was our USA President. I personally did not vote for him, but still I supported him. Maybe you can learn a lesson from that? "

    Transplant wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:58 PM:

    " Most of the posters telling others to go back to New York or where ever they are from are not natives to this area of Az. They have just been here a bit longer than some. The real natives of SE AZ don't know how to turn on a computer. I know a few. "

    DR wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:51 PM:

    " Patriot Act- People dont worry, if you have nothing to hide then you wont have a problem, heck the telemarketers have a bunch of info on us, they know our name, they call us around bedtime, and try to sell us something. This was going on before the patriot act. LOL And we're on the internet and all the personal info we share online? We really dont have all that much privacy. :) Think about it. And all the peopl on cell phones that talk loud and I can hear their convo, they aren't trying to hide anything, hehe. "

    Upright wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:19 PM:

    " To Zeb: Libs, Liberals, Dummycrats, Obamans, whatever. It doesn’t matter exactly what word is used – they are all gross generalities meant to dehumanize and demonize the left. Their use makes conservatives look about as sophisticated as cavemen. If you are unhappy with people leaning to the left, try making conservatism look a little smarter and less mean-spirited. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:38 PM:

    " Hello Hereford Resident, are you trying to tell me that 6 million Jewish People were killed and nobody but the SS knew? Please hold somebody responsible. Take your head out of the sand. Do you read your comments at all? My Niece has the same problem. Any attention is good for you HR. Well if you ever get to Germany you can see the anguish in the faces of the people. Their faces say...we should have done something. P.s. I was born on the Reservation. No elitism, just hard work and drive. You started with "You must be a loser,etc." "

    Really wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:28 PM:

    " To "to really", my comment was in response to "American People have Spoken" and his hypocracy. Please tell me where I made any comments that I hate Obama. It ain't there. So yes I can "talk down to those who" hated Bush and now want the world to love and respect Obama because as you stated that is extremely hypocritical. Maybe if you'd take the blinders off you'd be able to read my previous comment a bit clearer. "

    Still Awake wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:38 PM:

    " Out of everything I have posted you target the comment about "letting" my kids enlist. Give me a break. Let me say it this way, my kids will be well informed on what's going on and I feel they will make the right decision. Of course when they are old enough, we may once again have the leadership and a country worth defending. Yes, I said it, why settle for this? Corrupt leadership has made us a target. Whose the terrorist here? Our troops are dying in vain, why aren't you outaged about this. "

    Embarrassed to be a Hereford resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:24 PM:

    " Hey Hereford resident, I did at one time support bush, but that was before he screwed up the country. So the difference between you and I is; I’m not supportive of a president that HAS made bad choices. You don’t support a president who has yet to make any choices. I respect your opinion but stop criticizing others for theirs. You say all liberals want is for everyone to conform to their way. I will then call you the liberal in Republican clothing.
    And youwould compare Obama to Hitler and then call everyone else ignorant, you need help. "

    David wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:14 PM:

    " How to fix our election process.
    Primary campaigns start Feb 1, $10M max each, raised by candidate.
    Conventions in July, nominated candidates $10M each max, taxpayer dollars if needed.
    ALL campaigning and news coverage stops Oct. 31 for cool off period before start of election days.
    No campaigning or news coverage during cool off period or election days.
    Voting starts Nov. 4, continues for 5 working days.
    ID required.
    No early voting.
    Mail in ballots for those who cannot physically go to the polls, with reason on ballot request.
    No news or results predictions until all polls close.
    No 527’s "

    MAG wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:23 PM:

    " Wide Awake: No one has said they were a hero in this comments section, just servants of a country thay love. Not heros, just common servants. I too love the constitution and in no way want to see it destroyed by reading into it whatever meaning a court wants. You have been the one touting your house, money, education etc...that sounds like eastern elitism to me. BTW, an attack on our nation should bring patriotism, which I thought was almost dead before 911, and the soldier has protected American Freedoms for many, many years. "

    I stand corrected... wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:08 PM:

    " If I came across as a hypocrit that was not my intent. I just want to pass on what I feel is useful information. Please don't mistake my frustration for hatefullness. I really don't think many have had this presented to them, the media can no longer be trusted. If I was filled with hate I wouldn't be trying to expose this to you guys. We have been duped, we should unite (for truth)notdivide. It's ok to disagree on minor stuff but keep your eyes on the big picture. This is also about our children. "

    I stand corrected... wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:50 PM:

    " http://whitewraithe.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/federal-court-oks-treason-crimes-against-humanity/
    "The traitors and war criminals who have taken over our government are dancing with joy this evening, and rightly so. Earlier today, a Federal Court of Appeals in Washington granted them legal immunity forevery criminal action they have taken while in office. The ruling, made by a panel of three judges in dismissing an appeal in the case of Valerie Plame [photo], absolves government officials of individual accountability for any actions taken in an official capacity, regardless of whether those actions violated federal law or jeopardized national security. In effect, itlegalizes treason, war-crimes, and crimes against humanity. "

    More to follow wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:42 PM:

    " Everything I say on here can be verified. Read the language for yourselves. You only feel safe because you have been told this was needed for your safety (inc everyone), and these "acts" were necessary because of a "boogie man". Do not expect to be "safer". Do you think I come on here with these accusations to rile anyone? I really put myself out there. People don't want to consider such evil exists. Wake up now before it's too late. If you really look, you will see I am onto something. "

    More to follow wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:30 PM:

    " I made several references to damage to our constitution. The theory that if you're not doing anything wrong, who cares is very scary to hear. We are trusting that the enforcers are well-intentioned. You must look at the wording of certain documents like sections of the Patriot Act which include home schoolers, the religious as possible (domestic) terrorists, look at the "Homegrown Terrorism" Act which addresses "thought crimes". We have been ill-informed. This activity extends to the entire house, when the Patriot Act was signed, no one read it as it was just printed hoursprior. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:52 AM:

    " To Wide Awake: You keep showing your ignorance with every post on here. It was the German SS that created that problem, not the German Army. The German Army actually tried to assassinate Hitler. In fact the SS almost sounds like the same thing Obama wants to create in this country with his citizen force. Hmmmm could we be repeating history here. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:48 AM:

    " To Are You A Foreigner: What liberals want is to suppress freedom of speech unless it conforms to their way of thinking. You know they will try to revive the fairness doctrine again which will be a blow to the 1st amendment. That is the way a liberal thinks. Either you think their way or get out of the country as some of the idiots on here keep spouting. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:32 AM:

    " To American People Have Spoken: What a hypocrite. You guys never supported Bush so again I ask why we should support Obama and his socialist agenda? No one has answered that yet because all you liberals want is for us to conform to your way but you don't want anything to do with our way. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:30 AM:

    " To Still Awake: You are still asleep because how do you plan on stopping your kids from enlisting in the service after they turn 18? They do not need your permission at that age. Every time you spout off on here you only show more of your ignorance. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:34 AM:

    " Hope President Elect Obama has a happy Thanksgiving. LOL "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:32 AM:

    " So yes I am at times cynical in my comments. No, the Casino's don't make it all even. Look behind the Casino and see how Native Americans Live. Ira went to war for his homeland. He saw that the opressors were at the gate and felt that if he could repell them the Government might give them some water. He and the men of that time did that. The Government did not turn on the water. Congress nor the UN supported this war and the Doughboy, John Wayne saves the planet was a spin on the bloody truth. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:12 AM:

    " Until 1974 there was a draft. End of Story. I love America because I put up with single minded, elitist like you all the time. I love the constitution. I hate the fact that Since 911 we have these patriots that believe that by agreeing with AMericans miss guided polital agenda they are Patriots. That the soldier saved American freedoms. Where was the American soldier when they tried to kick Rosa Parks off the bus. Did a Marine secure the right to vote for women? Ever hear the story of Ira Hayes. That is a HERO. "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:08 AM:

    " To New to SV, Most of us don't want to go to New York! If you like it so much there, why not go back? People in AZ tend to have a nasty habit of telling you what they think. (Especially when they are hiding behind a fake name on their computers) lol! Get over it, we all know the Dummycrats are in power for the next 4 years, however that does not mean that we have to like it. Now is THAT name better than "Liberal or libs" for y'all? New Yawker go home! "

    to awake wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:26 AM:

    " you are labeled hate for the same reason you label people disagreeing with the current policy the same way. I commend you for sticking to your opinions but please don’t be a hypocrite about it. "

    to Are You A Foreigner wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:22 AM:

    " These people are constantly telling people to get out of the country. have you read any of the other stories on this site. Why are you sticking up for them, I don’t believe you are a democrat. I have met many on the street who say they want to leave the country because of Obama’s election. "

    to really wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:19 AM:

    " I respect the current president, but i am not going to turn a blind eye to all of his screw up because its patriotic. Might i add you are no better, you can't talk down to those who disapprove of Bush while hating Obama that is extremely hypocritical. it seem that you only find in unpatriotic if its convenient for you. "

    to math teacher wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:14 AM:

    " believe it or not the nanny with eat to just as much as the grandmother will. so you are still saving $100 a day. why dont you figure it out. "

    chill wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:04 AM:

    " im against obama, and no its not because he is african american. i believe that he is not a good man, that he is a liar, a hyporcite, and he is not patrotic. he doesnt salute the flag we fought for. and he once called our troops murders and rapers. what were you people thinking to vote for him? half his votes came from african american college students who had no knowledge whatsoever. but im just a kid, what do i know? "

    Awake in SV wrote on Nov 14, 2008 8:27 AM:

    " Why are we labeled as "haters" because we have a problem with Obama's agenda or his legitimacy to be president? Now that his draft registration is available it appears it may also be a fraud. The president (elect) is not above the law. So, consider me pro-constitution not anti-Obama or a hater. That's how your kind operate, all emotion, no reason. Please review links before responding with your "hate". www.change.gov
    http://rightsoup.com/bombshell-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-legal-questions/
    I have a feeling nothing short of a confession will convince you something may be amiss. Look 4yourselves. "

    New to SV wrote on Nov 14, 2008 8:25 AM:

    " Wide Awake: You know something else, I would love for you to go to NY where I'm from and run your mouth the way you do. You wouldn't last one minute. "

    New to SV wrote on Nov 14, 2008 8:23 AM:

    " Wide Awake: You're an arrogant ignorant person. You talk about things and other people like you are god almighty. It must be nice to know everything. How can you compare Nazi Germany to what is going on now. How dare you call our AMERICAN troops unjust. Do you even like this country, because seriously, Cuba could probably have some use for you. As for real Americans, you're the example of what we don't need. "

    MAG wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:27 AM:

    " Still Awake: I am sorry for your feelings about the military, I do not like the bailout and I also believe that the Government lies to us all the time. However, just because our nation is not perfect does not mean you should not love it and serve it, even try to change it by your service. "

    MAG wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:20 AM:

    " Wide Awake: You missed again, my era had no GI Bill, there were no hooks to get me in, thus it was patriotism. If you are as educated as you think you are, we liberated Kuwait and are not in battle there. Again you missed, I am highly educated, do not own any motorcycle and have a nice home that is well within my means. To say that you pay taxes and that equals service then I was right and you have no idea what service is, it is going beyond expectations. "

    Really wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:01 AM:

    " So "American People", you support and love our President, regardless of who he/she is. I'm sure you weren't one of the people who hated and disrepected President Bush then. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:14 AM:

    " Glad to see more people waking up to this travesty that is American Politics. Yes BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. To join the military and go to fight an unjust war makes the combatants unjust. Look to Nazi Germany for those UBERPATRIOTIC acts. DR, I think there were a huge populus of Jewish people who said the same thing "I don't have anything to worry about because....." Turns out that they did. HEy Awake, I see the Idiocy. When GW did the adress to the nation, "we need to act swiftly". Why? Did it work? No Sounds shifty to me. "

    Math Teacher wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:13 PM:

    " Hummer--Good name for you...with all the dirt coming out of your mouth. The going rate in a large city for a Nanny is approximately $100 per day; Granny Obama will eat her share of free meals for far more than what a nanny would cost, let alone her share of the rent, utilities, etc. Figure it out yourself and you will be singing/humming a different tune. "

    Are You A Foreigner wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:06 PM:

    " To American People Have Spoken: I am a Democrat; I do want to let you know although you don't agree with these folks, they are entitled to say what they please and you have no right to tell them if they don't like it they can leave. I was born in this country, served my country, and you have no business telling anyone to leave. This is why people serve, for your freedom and we also have Freedom of Speech.
    Were you born in another country and ignorant/uneducated about the USA. "

    awake in the twilight zone wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:54 PM:

    " Just to clarify, there are 2 "awakes", I will be "awake..." to eliminate any confusion. I personally think there are bigger issues to worry about besides who stays in the white house, what kind of dog they get, or what school the girls go to. Let's bring our troops home, stop the corporate corruption and have some long overdue justice and accountability. We are to trust the same people that got us into this mess. Why call it a "bail-out", it's buying time. Does no-one else see the idiocy? "

    DR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:30 PM:

    " Like I said before, The patriot act is geared towards terrorism, not avg Joe, I dont have anything to hide, so why worry? "

    DR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:29 PM:

    " No one is saving the world, it is a joint effort by all the people, how arrogant to make a statement. Geez. "

    DR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:28 PM:

    " I wonder why people in this blog take cheap shots and seem to know something about someone, such as a Harley or buying a house they couldn't afford. Who are you to judge? What the issue really here is policy concerning Obama. Thanks. "

    DR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:25 PM:

    " Wide awake, the first gulf war went unfinished, we returned to finish it, and using the word "like" sounds juvenille. "

    hummer wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:24 PM:

    " So "Taxpayer", you'd rather the first family hire a Nanny at your expense instead of having the in-law take care of the family. That makes sense. Right. "

    DR wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:23 PM:

    " Wide awake-- You are a rude person, I joined the military in the 70's. I was there if my country needed me. So, Im not patriotic? Were you in the military? No I didnt go to war, and the First gulf war was 6 weeks. These terrorists have been causing problems since the 60's, we chose to do nothing, till 9-11-01, and then Iraq, do you think Saddam might have hid those WMd's in Syria? To embarass Bush? You dont have to go to war to be patriotic, being available for the cause is!!!! "

    Obama Mama wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:07 PM:

    " I don't remember any other First Ladies having their Mothers live in the White House for four years. Jackie, Rosalyn, Betty, Nancy, Hillary & Laura all managed to move in without their Mamas and their kids were taken care of. No, the Obama's have to have a party up in the house. She is NOT immediate family. Let her move down the street and pay her own expenses, just like she does in Chicago. Why should she get a free ride. And people complain about folks at poverty level getting food stamps... "

    American People Have Spoken wrote on Nov 13, 2008 5:59 PM:

    " To Obama Supporters: It's so kind of you to give President Obama his due. How wonderfully mature and fair of you. I commend you!
    To Obama Haters: Get over it and accept it, or LEAVE this country! The American people have spoken! It's ugly Americans like you who give this country a bad name! I am sick and tired, tired and sick of idiots like you. The majority of us Americans do NOT think and feel like you do, we support and love our President, regardless of who he/she is. "

    Still Awake and not alone. wrote on Nov 13, 2008 5:51 PM:

    " Check out this site for more information, there is an article that addresses the bailout. Occasionally, we need to listen to those smarter then us (with good intentions) to get to the bottom of things. And my intentions are good, btw.
    http://www.republicmagazine.com/magazines/issue10/#/8/
    Unless you already have your mind made up, regardless. We must not lose our free thinking skills. Try to take the emotion out of your responses, you may be taken more serious if you actually said something besides insults. No need for the division, would you rather not know the truth? "

    Still Awake wrote on Nov 13, 2008 5:35 PM:

    " I ain't done yet. You apathetic war mongers who claim to be "patriotic". I will not let my kids enlist or even join ROTC, not under the current agenda. America is not the great nation it used to be. At least keep it real. Do you care, just think of the possibility, we have been duped by our government and media. Another example of rights being trampled, the bail out. Have you ever heard of taxation without representation? The real reason of the "cause" is never explained. Crooks and Liars! "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 13, 2008 5:22 PM:

    " To the Issue of Granny in the House. Every time I see an increase on my taxes for our public schools I think: I don't have children. I pay for other peoples childrens education. OK Then I see a family with 10 children. I am paying for that? Yes Are they directly related to the environmental/economic problems? Yes Do I keep paying my taxes. Yes I am doing the right thing. Therefore I am a Hero by MAG, etc. rules? Yes I am saving the world. Go Freedom and not everthing in life is fair.Boo Patriot Act "

    to hmmm wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:37 PM:

    " do you read or jusr rant? why not try readin what you are responding to next time. But then if you did that you would not have voted at all. Oh and "hmmm" is real real name Monica by any chance? Hmmm? "

    DirtyDave wrote on Nov 13, 2008 4:17 PM:

    " Time will tell. If you study history you will see Democrats raise taxes, increase the size of the goverment, and make changes that at first seem good but in the future causes major problems. (i.e. Resent events -Clinton repeals the Glass Stegill Act - Banks fail, Dems stop restrictions on Morgages, housing market crashes.) "

    Stop wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:54 PM:

    " If michelle feels better with her mom around so be it. If se stayed in Chicago you clam he is acting like a Muslim and claim thye have an unstable relationship. The white house has a huge staff your not complaing about. She would be like staff that is not getting payed. it might even save you "tax dolars" If he had five kids like Sara P would you also complain? "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:13 PM:

    " So MAG, you joined the military in the mid 80's out off loyalty to your country? If you joined to "Free" a country then you are a liar. The first desert storm lasted what, a week. If you liberated anybody, why are we there now. Sorry, nice try at patriotism. Did ya get your GI bill and go to school? I think not. You bought a Harley and a home you could not afford. Me, Educated and not scared of Terrorists or willing to give up my Civil Rights because of Republican SPIN. Look at the Bailout. Jokes "

    Whatever wrote on Nov 13, 2008 2:48 PM:

    " To the "wake-up" haters...I tried to open eyes of people who refuse to deviate from what they have been programmed to believe. There is hate here and you guys are the ones spewing it. Good luck, I won't waste my time. Keep watching your cable news for your "facts". You probably believe 9/11 was a complete accident. Be a "bully" to someone else. Just because someone disagrees with you you got to get ugly. How typical? "

    MAG wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:45 PM:

    " Wide Awake Cont...,were in the military and were too worthless to get a job on the "Gravy Train", or simply self absorbed. BT...you missed my era of joining, the first Bush liberated a foreign country, terrorists did live in Iraq (WMD's were indicated by Saddam and at least 4 other intel agencies besides our own) Before you attempt math, first find the numbers (That means facts...in case you need help) Try to understand those willing to serve, not degrade them, and try to serve yourself...even Obama supports that. "

    MAG wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:37 PM:

    " Wide Awake: I noticed you did not answer my question...what have you done for your country, besides mooching? I went in the service because my family has a long line of patriotic people who have SERVED. There should be something bigger than you that you are willing to sacrifice for, unless you are self absorbed. The only things I can think of that makes you spout such vileness is either you are a anarchist and do not like authority cont... "

    Pay for Your Own Obama Mom-In-Law wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:45 AM:

    " Michelle should stay in Chicago if she needs Mama with her. Her Mama doesn't live with her in Chicago, but she wants her to move into the White House for the next four years. I know darn well no taxpaper wants to pay her Mama's bills when they are having a hard time paying their own. Is this how the Obama's plan on spending our tax dollars. Odd they wait till after the election to bring this up. People are struggling and Michelle's Mama can struggle along with the rest of us!!! "

    Huh wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:10 AM:

    " What the heck are you trying to say "Wide"? Your ramblings don't add up. "

    Taxpayer Not Willing to Pay for Grandma wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:58 AM:

    " To Hummer - I agree with The Granny In the House. If's that's the case, I am one of Barack's long lost cousins and I can set up a crib in "The House" too, and we can use "your tax dollars" to pay for my rent and food for the next four years. I can sock alot of money away in that time. This is bull. If she wants to visit, that is fine, but for her to pack up her bags and stay for the next 4 years is my business. "

    Zeb wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:09 AM:

    " To Granny in the house: I don't see any problem with Michele's mother moving into the White House to help with the children. THAT would sure be up to Mr/President Obama! Personally I never wanted my mother in law to even come stay fore a short visit. Maybe he gets along with his inlaws. As long as his mother inlaw moving in does not bother him, it's fine with me. Children in the White House usually have a hired nanny to help care for them. "

    Stop Hatin wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 AM:

    " I agree what I say is horrendous. But that doesn't make it untrue. It seems quite a few of you would prefer to spew hate and hateful comments rather then direct your attention to possible corruption. Alot of us feel you should know about what's going on. You can not trust the "main" media. Does it make you more patriotic to follow leadership "blindly". Illegal war is mass murder! Is it unpatriotic to question the reasons behind what resulted in over a million innocent Iraqui's deaths and thousands soldiers lives lost. Endwarsnow! "

    911 ploy to pass illegal bills wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:29 AM:

    " The patriot act and many other bills have been passed under the "guise" of foreign terrorism. Please look it up, it also targets US citizens. They have used these so-called terrorism acts against us including peaceful protesters. Also check on the authority of the Border Patrol. You are wrong. Our rights have been taken away. From being held without a trial to illegal wiretapping. It's a sham, with a label of "anti-terrorism". The only terrorist we have to fear is in our government. Illegal wars=easy target Don't Enlist! http://ivaw.org/ "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:27 AM:

    " On numerous occasions Gen. Hershey told Congress for every man drafted, three or four more were scared into volunteering.[17] Assuming his assessment was accurate, this would mean over 11 million men volunteered for service because of the draft between January 1954 and April 1975.[3]
    How many went to the first Desert Storm because they had joined for College money and woke up the Papa Bush invading a foreign country? WMD's and terrorists that live in another country? Oil? How about indoctrination? Look at your willinness to surrender the Rights you proudly defended? The Math doesn't add up. "

    D00 wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:29 AM:

    " All you people should fix your own lives.
    I bet half of all you have some kind of issue.
    So do I,it don't matter who's PRESIDENT.
    At home take care of yours and thats what matters. "

    Hmmmm wrote on Nov 12, 2008 11:42 PM:

    " James, You are off any many things... The Herald posts blogs on all sides. If you don't see that then you are the one who is biased. Also, isn't the world's largest nasty exporter. I am not sure where you get your facts from but you are off... :) Also, "we" don't kill 1.5 unborn babies a year. Again you are off the mark. Here is your dilema... You don't want social programs to feed teenager's babies, but you also don't want abortions. If we didn't have some abortions, the babies would starve. Have a nice day! "

    Hmmmm wrote on Nov 12, 2008 11:34 PM:

    " Republican - What does fighting for an Iraqi constitution have to do with ours? There is no link. Besides, we went there to find WMD that wasn't there based on false info that bush provided to Congress and the American people. Soldiers are dying for nothing there. The fight has been and always will be in Afghanistan. AQI never existed until we got there. After bush decided to keep us there, which he now admits as wrong, AQI formed and started killing Soldiers. Iraq has nothing to do with our freedoms or our Constitution. "

    hummer wrote on Nov 12, 2008 10:02 PM:

    " "Grammy", what is wrong with having a Grand Parent stay in the White House? Taxpayers aren't paying any more for her to stay in the White House. The first family has earned that honor. If she stays with them as a guest it's not our business or anything to get excited about. She's part of the immediate family. Nothing inappropriate there. "

    What wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:53 PM:

    " James, at least 60% of these post are anti obama. In fact some of the very first posts say he is going to turn us into a third world county and call him a Muslim and anti American. If you feel there is a slant consider the fact that the majority of people are Obama supports. This is made obvious by the fact that he won. "

    I am 55 wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:54 PM:

    " I am a registered Republican. I voted for Obama. I have never considered myself a liberal or conservative. I'm somewhat of both. I suggest we ALL go and register as Independents. I'm so tired of hearing party bashing. We are all individuals. "

    james wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:43 PM:

    " to the herald editors:
    I have been observing what you will and will not post. You appear to be left slanted. You will post apparently anything that is leftist, but you carefully censor all anti Obama posts. Shame on you. You will probably post this in an attempt to seem even-handed, but you are not.
    You are busted. "

    Granny In The House wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:19 PM:

    " ABC reported today Michelle wants her Mom to move into the White House the next four years to help with the kids. I do not recall this issue in any other election. I understand she is family and it would be great for her to help with the kids, but is it fair to taxpapers she gets free rent/food, etc., compliments of taxpapers? She can get her own place in DC, get the Metro and go back & forth like everyone else. If not, call a cab and pay your own rent. Where does she stay now? "

    DR wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:09 PM:

    " That slow seepage I am referring to is a tactic of the American Left. Those folks are scary! :) "

    What Do You Want Me To Call You wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:07 PM:

    " I just read headlines about Lindsay Lohan calling Obama "the first colored president". Do we have to be subjected to every little thing as being offensive and making headlines? Shades of Brown, I don't recall anyone giving me the opportunity to be known as ivory,chantilly, seashell, or magnolia. Also to Mona - I agree with your comments 100%. He sat in that church for 20 years, then lied and said he had no knowledge of the Rev's comments. You hit the nail on the head. "

    DR wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:04 PM:

    " The patriot act applies to the terrorists not average Americans, Terrorists dont get American trials, they are combatants, who declared war on America, Our troops are not dying in vain, they are trying to preserve the Constitution and the Bill of Rights so that ppl can voice whatever they please, whether I agree or not. This will be in vain however if we become marxist or socialist, because it wont be the USA as we know it, and lately it looks different. It's slow propaganda that seeps into the mind that says what we have isnt worth fighting for. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 12, 2008 6:55 PM:

    " Hey guys, you keep guessing, YOu must be a Liberal, you had to vote Obama, my life is bad. You are way off. I will speculate to who you are and the type of life you lead. You are Caucasian, middle class with a huge mortgage and car note, always trying to keep up with the Jones's, have a drink everyday, smoke and complain about Taxes and are either from Wisconsin or Minnnesota. You also have no C.I.B. and hope that our next President failes. LOL Your kids live at home and are in their 30's. HEHEHE Don't blame me. "

    to lol wrote on Nov 12, 2008 6:22 PM:

    " I never implied that you voted for Bush. But you have proven my point that you set an example of hatred and disrespect for the office of the President the last 8 years. Don't expect those people that you have spewed hatred and disrespect towards over the last 8 years to turn around and forget. "

    the bright side wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:55 PM:

    " It seems Obama could perform an act of god and many would still only consider his flaws. So I will as you to consider that the world is celebrating and developing a new respect for our county. There are also millions of Americans that are inspired by his presidency. Inner city kids who once believed they would amount to nothing more than a drug dealer or wal-mart employee now have a new found confidence in themselves. Good will come from this election in many forms, so rather than condemning the future we should embrace it. "

    james wrote on Nov 12, 2008 5:06 PM:

    " America is the largest exporter of porn and largest consumer of ilicit drugs than any other nation in history. And we kill 1.5 million unborn children a year in the name of freedom. Riv. Right was not telling God what to do. He was telling us what God is going to do. And he is right. "

    David wrote on Nov 12, 2008 3:23 PM:

    " In 1805 Benjamin Rush, a signator of The Declaration, wrote to President Adams regarding the political system we enjoy and the inaccurate Histories being written about the War of Our Independence.
    He referred to the then 4 parties as old Tories, honest Federalists, moderate Republicans, and violent Democrats.
    Not a lot has changed, nor will it until all the boneheads out there read and learn from History.
    Obama, like those before him, will repeat the same mistakes.
    "Change" may come, but it will be nothing new. Just rehashed blunders from our collective past that all will regret. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:30 PM:

    " To What planet are you on:
    Hey Pot met Kettle. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:29 PM:

    " Way to go New to Sv. Thank you for falling into the trap. You say, If you didn't serve in the military then I don't know. LEt us use your own logic to end this insanity that is you lie as to service. How do you know there is terrorism in Iran. Do you live there. No. How do you know that anything past your reach is true? You don't if you aren't part of it????? P.s. I'm rich.HEHEE I am also Right LOL So keep your line of thought and I will continue making money off your "patriotism".LOL "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:21 PM:

    " HEy Hereforresident and the rest. We are still at war? How do you know, is that just the Spin. You missed the point of the bias in the media. The Bias in the Media was for the War you idiots. G.W. spun you, not us. This is the reason for the war, not oil. You se how the country is divided into war uspports who listin to nobaody but the Spin. Then there is the rest of us who take facts, no weapons of mass destruction and terrorist, and descern to true direction fo our country. Watch the spelling LOL "

    MAG wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:52 PM:

    " What planet are you on: Funny how "Smart" elitists are too afraid to even use a handle in thier posts. I agree some stuff that is posted here is absurd, but I would stack the brain power in Cochise County against any in Arizona. Just because people do not follow your idiological bent does not mean we are back woods yokels...that is the kind of eastern elitist menatlity that most middle Americans are frustrated with. But please keep going, we need to re-ignite that anger again. "

    MAG wrote on Nov 12, 2008 1:46 PM:

    " Dan: I am no Bush supporter, I belive he has done serious harm to the conservative causes...but your rant is just dumb. McCain went to Veitnam for healing and never once said anything about attacking it and Clinton's "Surplus" was a shell game with statistics. Do your research. "

    To free thinker wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:43 PM:

    " Obama at high risk for assassination, its only common sense that they would keep his family back during his acceptance speech. Its a lot easier to pull one person out of a dangerous situation than four. Also There could have been any number of reasons for traveling apart on that one occasion. I guess you will just run with anything. You people are pathetic. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 12, 2008 10:42 AM:

    " You have lost no rights. The ones you quote only apply to foreigners who last time I checked have no rights under our constitution. Those folks down in Gitmo are being held as enemy combatants and last time I checked we are still at war with terrorism and POW's can be held until the end of the war if necessary. Some of you really need to wake up and realize that we were attacked September 11, 2001. Some of you seem to forget that. "

    Mona wrote on Nov 12, 2008 10:41 AM:

    " When Rev Wright said "God D_ America!" I figured that Obama probably had the same opinion. Why else would Obama and his family go to that church? He's lauded as The Messiah by Farrakhan. That makes me believe that Obama's a Muslim, to me THAT IS FRIGHTENING! In Philadelphia 2 Black Panthers tried to block the door to the polls. This seemed threatening. These are all TRUE facts that can be found easily in a search. I remember riots and violence. Call me a racist, but I do not trust Barrack Obama and these are the reasons. "

    What planet are you on wrote on Nov 12, 2008 10:11 AM:

    " I'm now reminded why rural people are always seen as hillbilly slack-jawed yokels. Some guy here said Obama is, "more Arabic than black". Arabic? That's laughable!! Obama's father was from Kenya which was part of the east African region which traded with the Arab world! His WHITE mother is from Kansas. I love the brainless fear-based "facts" you people produce. Ahhh, the words coming from your little brains in teeny tiny Cochise County really make for some good comic relief. And freak-a-zoid Sarah Palin--the Grand Poo Bah of hillbilly slack-jawed yokels. Now I see why you liked her. "

    NoHateHere wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:24 AM:

    " As far as serving in the military. I believe they were well-intentioned, but misinformed. They will never be the same. Are we more patriotic to support an illegal war all because the president says its necessary; despite overwhelming "intel". Look up "articles of impeachment", "Vincent Bugliosi". The president is not above the law. The most patriotic thing we can do is fight the corruption, restore our constitution and bring all our troops home. America has turned into a major bully violating international law. "

    lol wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:11 AM:

    " (to lol) I didn't vote for that horrible bush so You shouldn't assume. You just proved my point. People all assume without proven facts and then say stupid hateful things. The whole cumminity is suppose to be role models for our kids and they act like two year olds fighting and calling names it's so very sad. Americans are suppose to stand and unite for this country together and not come apart and fight. "

    to DR wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:10 AM:

    " Examples of our loss of rights "in the name of terrorism" include The Patriot Act, FISA, several other examples available, such as being held without trial. Look up "homegrown terrorism". Plenty of examples. They damaged the constitution by instilling fear into the public. This war was about money and could have been prevented. Search "abuse of powers". The constitution was only a "GD" piece of paper, according to Bush. And I do support our troops, they are dying in vain. Also search "false flag" operations. I am wide awake, ru? "

    New to SV wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:02 AM:

    " Wide Awake: I'm sick and tired of you acting like you know why people joined the military. You have no clue what having pride in your country means... if you did, then you would have respect for the services that provide the freedom you enjoy. Look, if you're miserable with your life, you should have made better choices, stop blaming people for what you don't have. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 12, 2008 7:52 AM:

    " To Wide Awake: You must be sound asleep. Most people do more in the military then you ever will in your pathetic life. Apparently you have no idea what it is like to serve this country. Until you do please do us all a favor and SHUT UP. You don't have a clue what it is to serve. "

    Dan wrote on Nov 12, 2008 6:33 AM:

    " I've watched Bush destroy our country for eight years and McCain would have loved to attack Vietnam again and to have followed in Bush's footsteps.When Clinton left office we, for the first time ever had a budget surplus now we have the largest deficit ever.I pray Obama undoes all the damage Bush has caused our country if that is possible. "

    Shades of Brown wrote on Nov 12, 2008 12:42 AM:

    " Call him what you want, but now he is everyone's president. Doesn't matter if he is mahogany, chocolate, sephia, burnt sienna, wheat, ecru, or cappuccino. Black & white equal gray.
    If you all can't find resolution with just three colors (black, white, or brown), how are you going to deal someday with the colors of the rainbow in the office if a gay is ever elected. At this rate, it will send you all over the edge trying to select a color. He is not a black president. He is a president. Let's move on. "

    DR wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:51 PM:

    " Remember there were a lot of white people who voted for Obama. He wouldnt have got there otherwise, I think some dont know what racism is, It gets used as some convenient/loose term when someone opposes someone of a different race. And that becomes the basis for calling someone a racist. Only because they disagree. I see a lot of people doing good in America, of all colors. :) Take a look. "

    DR wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:46 PM:

    " Thanks for your comments MAG! What bothers me MAG is the US military gets treated worse than the people we are fighting. Our military is American, something with this picture. "

    DR wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:42 PM:

    " No hate: Please give me an exapmple of the constitution being massacred during the Bush years. Last I checked I still have my rights. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 11, 2008 5:56 PM:

    " Evan Thomas from NewsWeek describe Barack Obama as "Creepy", "He watches us watching him" says Evan Thomas. Looks like our new President has the power of a cult leader. Obama made his acceptance speech without his wife & children by his side & when Obama met with GWB on Monday, Obama & his wife Michelle flew on 2 different planes there & back.
    Excuse me... but, isn't that how Muslims treat their wife(s) & children? "

    To lol wrote on Nov 11, 2008 5:46 PM:

    " I think folks are just following the example you set for the last 8 years. Hate the one who's in office. Why not. If it's alright for the left then it's alright for the right. It used to be who ever was elected as POTUS, whether you agreed with their politics or not you respected their authority. Not now, not since the left spent 8 years spewing hatred and disrespect. "

    DR wrote on Nov 11, 2008 4:36 PM:

    " Maybe those who shout racism are racist themselves. The Obaman's need to understand that, if we voted against him, that was because of his policies, not color, get over it. "

    MAG wrote on Nov 11, 2008 2:42 PM:

    " Wide Awake: I slept in cold places, ate very little, spent long days away from people I loved and all for very little money. What have you done as a sacrifice for your nation? If you do not like the military...fine, I spent most of my adult life protecting that right, beleive it or not (I don't care) I did it for patriotism. What have you done, besides belittle those who have given? You needed a civics class instead of whatever you were smoking in the sixties. "

    no hate here wrote on Nov 11, 2008 12:45 PM:

    " I think any one who stands up to corruption or wrong doing is a great example for their kids, and their neighbors. Go back to watching cable news for your information. Some really care about the constitution and if we're to uphold it then so should our leaders, duh! When they don't, it's a cause for a revolution. The constitution was massacred during Bush's years, and Obama has supported our rights being taken away (along with McCain). I do not veer right nor left, but prefer right (or truth) over wrong! Quit hatin! "

    David wrote on Nov 11, 2008 10:04 AM:

    " When FDR was running for his 3rd term, the Socialist Party candidate (Williams, if memory serves me correct) was asked why he was not actively campaigning against FDR.
    He replied something to the effect of "Why should I, he has already accomplished everything I set out to do."
    Well boys and girls, he's ba-ack. "

    Hulk wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:42 AM:

    " People People BLACK,WHITE,BROWN,
    What ever in all sides we all got are RACIST.
    Just hang and all you know whats up.
    I know a Black guy.
    I know a WHITE "
    I know a BROWN "
    AND IT GO'S ON AND ON.
    WE ALL KNOW BUT WE JUST DON"T WANT TO ADMIT.
    Go to the SOUTH and you'll see BLACK & WHITE RACIST you go to the black side of town, you go to the white side of town you better watch out.
    So it be said PEACE to ALL and may ALL just LIVE.
    SWEET LAND OF LIBERTY!!!!!!!!! "

    FYI wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:15 AM:

    " further, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." "

    Frank wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:58 AM:

    " To Rev. Robert - I say again, grow up.. "

    lol wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:43 AM:

    " This comment section just shows how STUPID most people in this town are.
    I don't have to prove it YOU all did with your stupid comments. Glad I only go to vista once a week and that's bad enough. Obama won and their is nothing anyone can do to change that so deal and get over it. Most of all GROW UP!!!
    I'm gratefull You haters are not my parents what a horrible example you set.
    You haters are the youths role models and you act like two year olds.SAD!! "

    FYI wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:39 AM:

    " The U.S. Constitution should resolve Mr. Berg's Federal case. Please see Article II, Section 1. It states, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." "

    No I am not racsist wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:14 AM:

    " What's next, a National Obama Day? Unreal! http://rightsoup.com/
    People, please wake up. Obama raised an enormous amount of money which he neglects to address, and now a "civilian force". His campaingning was lawless, how do we expect his run in office to be any different. Bring our troops home and stop the illegal wars. Those that support that mentality have been "duped". The only threat to us is our own government. It's called domestic terrorism, I thought we were supposed to be protected from them too. They are liars! "

    FYI wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:10 AM:

    " Obama will be our President for four years. Accept it. Please use some common sense. Why would Obama risk everything if he wasn't a U.S. Citizen? Berg v. Obama was thrown out on Oct. 24th, stating Berg's case is "frivolous and not worthy of discussion." Please read more than a few Websites before you write further. "

    StepUpHerald wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:01 AM:

    " We are being denied by the media, the Herald included. What happened to true journalism. Your job is not to make us feel good about the decline of this country, but make us aware of it. Both McCain and Obama voted for the bail out and The Patriot Act and FISA (revisions). We are victims of a fascist policy. The only candidates who were against all of those things were the 3rd party candidates. Most voted against a party, not for one (who represents their views). Boycott mainstream media and wakeup! "

    BIGOOGLER wrote on Nov 11, 2008 7:05 AM:

    " You All are Pretty stupid in everything you are saying. We Should Fight the power in any form it takes. Government is evil and all it wants to do is kill us and everything we as people stand for. People should be allowed to do, say,and act how ever they feel like. When you vote/support these government officials you are supporting your rights and freedoms being taken away and I honestly don't think that all "you people" can be that ignorant, all you have to do is open your eyes and see the evil that is distorting your vision. "

    Kyle wrote on Nov 11, 2008 4:55 AM:

    " Well Hereford dude... After the election I would deffinately say that the majority of America is on the same sheet of music with "liberal ideas". It would appear you are in the minority with what I would label as extremist facist ideas. In fact the republican party is not even conservative anymore. All the real conservatives jumped ship and decided to vote for Bob Barr. So republicans are now a minority political organization that most of America doesn't support or have the same views with. Palin blames the lack of republican conservativism as a problem with the republicans. "

    cochisechat.com wrote on Nov 11, 2008 12:51 AM:

    " Watching everyone running circle around them selves here is very entertaining! Enjoy! "

    azdave wrote on Nov 11, 2008 12:32 AM:

    " I'm a registered Republican, but I find all this Obama bashing to be simply stupid and counterproductive. Conservatives in this country would be far better off trying to figure out how to return to some sort of relevancy for the future (which they clearly demonstrated in this election they were not) instead of wallowing in petty bitterness. Obama isn't going to solve all of this nation's problems, but he isn't going to ruin it either. Ninety percent of the people who've written comments in this thread really, really need to grow up. "

    A Few Kind Words Go A Long Way wrote on Nov 11, 2008 12:15 AM:

    " Stop the insanity. I now see the best thing that ever happened to me was leaving that town. Herald, I really wish you would print this. Why is just about everyone in that small-minded town so full of hate, jealousy, greed, and racism? Are you in denial and even the Editor does not want to print this? I am a Democrat & for the first time voted Republican. I lost respect over the Rev Wright thing and did not believe Barack, but we all need to support him now. Will we ever unite? "

    To Bob wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:41 PM:

    " You are extremely biased. Obama has done many good things, the problem is that you choose not to acknowledge them. You simply look the other way and see nothing. That is your biased nature. Perhaps if you were a real American you could see the good deeds he has done and continues to do. We could list a thousand good things he has done, but you would only nit pick and refuse to acknowledge them anyhow. Perhaps you are racist too. It happens and occurs when people only see the bad. I feel sorry for you! "

    To Just Wondering wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:37 PM:

    " Did you ever wonder why Bush lied to the American people to further his cause for war? Did you ever wonder what kind of morals Palin installed into her kids that led her teenage daughter to have pre-marital sex and get pregnant? Did you ever wonder why Bush's girls were always in the news for being underage drunk in his first term? why not wonder the whole gammit? "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:07 PM:

    " To DR: I wasn't replying to you but to the person that cannot think up a name to go by on here who replied to you. I don't watch those biased channels either. They are too much in the tank for liberal ideas. "

    Just Wondering.. wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:42 PM:

    " The co-chair of Barack Obama's Transition Team, Valerie Jarrett,told Tom Brokaw that Obama will be ready to "rule" on day one. Louis Farrakhan says when Obama talks "the Messiah is absolutely speaking." Obama Gave Only 1% Of his Income To Charity last year. Why didn't Obama take his girls to say goodby to their grandma when he went over? Is she getting a funeral or do we have to pick a dog first and grant interviews? We haven't heard a word about dear old Granny. Was her death convenient to him? Hmmm.... "

    Rev. Robert wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:32 PM:

    " To Frank: There was some “fawning and idolatry of Obama in several of the earlier posts. Obama is not the “Messiah” or "America's Savior". I love this troubled nation, and all of the people, I don't care about their political ideology.
    So far as you saying I am foolish consider carefully your accusations and the weight of your words.
    "Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of h@ll fire." "

    Upright wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:20 PM:

    " I challenge everyone again to write posts without using the words "lib" or "liberal" in a derogatory way. Sentences that start with the words "you liberals" or "the libs" invariably contain meaningless, throw-away insults and have no place in substantive discourse. Apply a little hard thought instead of taking the easy way out by making gigantic assumptions about all those who do not adhere, Drudge-like, to the extreme right. "

    keepin it real wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:47 PM:

    " I need to say something. Why is it assumed that those receiving assistance are lazy? The U.S. at one point was leading on manufacturing and opportunity. Those days are long gone thanks to outsourcing/bad policies. I know it's easier to stereotype with labels to make a point. But let's be reasonable and fair. Not everyone is looking for a free ride but a little help. Good for you that don't need to worry about it, but let's keep it real. The only industry flourishing is military contractors, take a look around. "

    STOP wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:34 PM:

    " PLEASE quit the name calling and perpetuating the stereotypes that really don't exist! I'm so sick of "you libs" and "right-wingers" and "racist" and all of the other unkind names. The people have spoken with their ballots, and no matter what anyone says, Mr. Obama will be our next President. We should all back off, do our best to take care of our personal lives and our families and give the man a chance to establish himself as our new leader. We all might be surprised with the results - in a good way. "

    bob wrote on Nov 10, 2008 6:26 PM:

    " What has Obama ever led other than a bunch of dummies astray? He has not a single accomplishment to his name that any of the obamadummies here can name. If he does then name it. Just one piece of legislation or one significant act as senator. You voted for a nonperformer and he is already backpeddling his lies I mean promises. At least now we don't have to worry about being punished with a baby. "

    Pat Hurley wrote on Nov 10, 2008 6:10 PM:

    " You asked for it, and now you get it; socialism. Hold onto your wallets folks and have a clothespin handy to place on the bridge of your nose when the legislation starts to pour out of the Democrat congress. Hoard cash, gold, food, and ammunition now while you can. This is gonna get real ugly. THANKS AMERICA FOR YOUR INTELLIGENT VOTE!!!!! "

    hmmm wrote on Nov 10, 2008 5:56 PM:

    " hmmm…the two party rift continues. I was a bit disappointed to see so many vote for two candidates who were clearly not the best choice. I hope many of the states allow independents to vote in the primaries. Maybe then we can get candidates that represent the American public. Until then we will continue to have the partisan politics and the two sides blaming each other for the countries ills. Obama has already reneged on his 250K tax threshold. The public will grade him on how well he keeps the rest of his promises. History is against him. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 10, 2008 5:37 PM:

    " Looks like the angry left is going to blow a gasket! LOL! They have been duped again and this time it's their fault!!! LOL! President elect Obama is flip flopping on his campaign promises & after today's meeting with GWB it appears our new President will continue the GWB's policies on taxes & the war. LOL! Tell me Obama followers, how cold does that knife in your back feel? LOL! "

    DR wrote on Nov 10, 2008 5:23 PM:

    " What is Obama really going to do? That is the million $ question. "

    DR wrote on Nov 10, 2008 5:12 PM:

    " 1 man does not have the power to change the people, change starts within. Not all change is good like obama is preaching. Obama wants to impose bog govt in your life, penalize the wealthy /success. Give money to those who dont earn it. That is junk politics. "

    DR wrote on Nov 10, 2008 5:07 PM:

    " Thanks time to grow up for your comments!
    I guess I'll be labeled a racist for not voting for obama. Folks its his policies and his marxist ideology. Really you lefties need to sober up. "

    DR wrote on Nov 10, 2008 5:04 PM:

    " Hey hereford, I dont watch msnbc or cnn.
    Fair and balanced channel, know what that is? Those channels you mentioned are left wing, in the tank for obama. HEhe "

    Frank wrote on Nov 10, 2008 4:44 PM:

    " To Rev Robert. No one is fawning over, or worhipping Obama. Supporters and the media are merely showing their respect and admiration for a superior candidate and leader. After G.W. Bush, what do you expect? No false prophets or messiahs here. You and other dolts desperately bring that up and you only look foolish and awfully ignorant in the process. Grow up Reverend Bob. "

    TinAZ wrote on Nov 10, 2008 2:34 PM:

    " Funny how liberals now ask everyone to support the president, even after the years of hateful comments to presdient Bush. Most republicans will support the president because it is in the best interests of the country, not to personally make you libs feel better about yourselves. Your hypocritical mumbo-jumbo knows no bounds, and I am glad the election is over. It will be interesting to see who you all blame over the next 4 years as the democrats control everything. Your Bush scapegoat will be long gone. "

    AP wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:36 AM:

    " "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." - George Bernard Shaw "

    To Let us discuss moocher wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:16 AM:

    " I have values and morals. I am and have never been accustomed to taking anything I did not earn. I have worked for what I have and I have made the right decisions in life to keep me from winding up on the welfare roles. I understand Economics perfectly. Where do you get your logic from? Oh, wait, nevermind. One other thing; did I say I joined the military? Where? When? I have never served, but I deeply admire those who SACRIFICE and do so! "

    ToTo TIME TO GROW UP wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:09 AM:

    " One other thing! Genuis! FYI, Obama has cleaned out all the promises he made off his website. So much for that! "

    ToTo TIME TO GROW UP wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:08 AM:

    " I didn't vote for McCain, I voted against Obama, there is a difference! You liberals always resort to personal attacks when you are cornered (i.e.Sarah Palin). I also earn over $100K and as soon as the Bush Tax Cuts expire, our taxes will go up. Where do get that "lack of moral values" crap?! It is also because of moral values that I did not vote for that infanticide supporter! And, Obama doesn't have the spine to make a stand on issues. He votes "Present". Admirable. He is a fence walker! "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:58 AM:

    " To To TIME TO GROW UP: Apparently you haven't been paying attention because Obama lowered his tax plan to folks making $100k and less now. I guess you drank the Kool-aid and now maybe you will sober up once reality hits you. If you make over $100k now you will be paying more taxes. LOL "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:55 AM:

    " To To DR: Where do you get your information? You quote no sources so am I to assume you made these figures up? I bet you got them off of CNN or MSNBC which will of course skew the figures. Next time you throw some stats out at least have the courage to back them up with your sources. "

    Rev. Robert wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:48 AM:

    " Matthew 24: 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Matthew 7 :15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 24 : 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    Revelation 13:16 Some resist the authority of the Antichrist so economic sanctions are then used
    This fawning for Obama sounds like idolatry, God have mercy on all of you pathetic delusional Obama-worshippers. "

    DR wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:17 AM:

    " Ole hmmm is at it again, bashing my point of view. Loser! "

    Pancho wrote on Nov 10, 2008 9:35 AM:

    " David - So FDR, JFK, and Reagan were fascists? I'd be interested to learn what nation's history you are referring to? The rest of your commentary was inane, so I won't waste the effort. "

    Pancho wrote on Nov 10, 2008 9:23 AM:

    " Haleluja, Obama is not a God! Obama will do fine without the "God" or "Messiah" manifestations. It's just an illusory thing. Obama cannot help but appear "God-like" to you, especially after following an inept person in the White House such as George W. Bush. Most reasonable people agree that Obama will be a significant improvement and bring some order to the chaos and ruin heaped upon us by the current administration. DR, Fox has a large viewership in large part because we liberals are very much entertained by what lunatics have to say. "

    Jake wrote on Nov 10, 2008 9:01 AM:

    " Haleluja - What an asinine remark. Obama has never worn his religion on his sleeve. G.W. Bush was supposed to be your own so-called gift from God. He himself said he spoke to a higher father than his own biological one. And how'd that turn out for you? G.W. Bush is a disgrace and the most incompetent person to ever be elected to the White House, including James Buchanan. "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:46 AM:

    " There sure are a lot of haters out there. I think the DR (dumb republican) has been reading too many conspiracy theory books! TTGU is like the anti-christ and anti-american all rolled into one. With great voices like these representing the republicans I wonder why they lost the election... Too funny you guys are the joke of town! Thanks for the laughs! Oh yeah now we are going to take all your guns away the put you away! :) he he "

    David wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:59 AM:

    " If one looks back at (and learns from) History, one would find that "leaders" who draw huge swooning crowds are fascists; that the Democrat Party was (is) the party of oppression, violence and are of very low moral character; and that History teaches us that man learns nothing from History. Remember who you voted for. Mid way through the Carter administration not a soul could be found who would admit casting a ballot his way. In a few years everybody will be saying "Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy!" "

    TeeHee wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:31 AM:

    " To "Frank:" How pathetic you are, resorting to calling people names when they implement plans to keep the wealth for which THEY worked. I find it interesting to see how business owners are finding creative ways to avoid Obama's tax increase plan AND stay in business. It's the American way! Staff cuts + price increases, or all part-time workers (NO benefits), in concert with even everyday people putting their savings in tax-free accounts. There is NO reason I should be forced to support anyone but my own family, and I don't intend to. Spoiled? No. Financially secure, yes! "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 10, 2008 4:57 AM:

    " Let us discuss MOOCHER. How about welfare. Here is a good way to look at it. If the government creates a postition that has no competion for then it is WELFARE. If the only requirement for this position is a pulse....Welfare. Sounds to me that Time to Grow Up needs a lesson in Basic Eco. and position in life. You woldnot be angry with these moochers if you were not one yourself. Now let me hear that "I joined the military becasue I was a hereo lie. You joined the military for the benefits. Hello MOOCHER "

    To Dillusional Thinker wrote on Nov 9, 2008 11:20 PM:

    " Obama's policy differs from Bush's but both McCain and Obama wanted to leave the tax cuts alone for now. Are you that unaware about politics and what the candidates were about? It sounds like you are very uniformed and you made a decision based off of race and not based off the man and their policies. You should feel foolish, and you have destroyed any credibility you had on this blog. Maybe you should adopt the Bisbee moron name too. "

    To TIME TO GROW UP wrote on Nov 9, 2008 11:17 PM:

    " We know you didn't vote for President Obama because you are a racist. Typical though that you hide behind a blog. It isn't the news medias fault it is McCain and Bush's fault for having bad policies that led to their defeat. I earn over $100K a year. I will pay less taxes under Obama's plan. He is not taking anything from me. He is not taking anything from you either. You are obviously uneducated and lack moral values. This is why the repubicans have been shattered and are now broken into pieces. Congratualations to President Obama! Amen! "

    To DR wrote on Nov 9, 2008 11:13 PM:

    " Fox news was 4th on the election coverage. They have slipped and sponsors are starting to pull away from them because of their extremist slant. There have also been several calls to boycott companies that advertise with Fox. I think that is a pretty good idea. "

    DR wrote on Nov 9, 2008 10:27 PM:

    " God brings peace, not a mortal man. "

    George wrote on Nov 9, 2008 10:21 PM:

    " The majority of the electorate spoke loudly on election day. They told McCain and Palin, "thanks, but no thanks." Free Thinker, this one is for you. LOL! "

    Haleluja wrote on Nov 9, 2008 8:55 PM:

    " It is time for us all to unite under Obama. Can't you all see that he is a gift from God? He has been sent to bring peace to the world and bring you salvation. "

    DR wrote on Nov 9, 2008 7:15 PM:

    " Really folks, We have to wait and see what goes down in the next few months. It's what Obama doesnt say that scares me. And remember this: Mainstream media is the spin doctors. You can bang Fox news all you want, last I saw they have the highest ratings. :D "

    DR wrote on Nov 9, 2008 7:04 PM:

    " Thank you time to grow up! "

    come on people wrote on Nov 9, 2008 6:14 PM:

    " Even if obama does an outstanding job in office most of you will only see his flaws. lay back on the hatefulness. You all need to calm down and go wiht the flow. your gonna give yourselves heart attacks. "

    TIME TO GROW UP wrote on Nov 9, 2008 12:41 PM:

    " Obama bought your vote by promising to take other’s hard earned money and give it to you. How pitiful is that? You were so thrilled to have the first black president (and prove that you are not racist) you didn’t notice that you were voting for a Black Panther in MLK clothes! But I can’t really fault you for that. Chris Matthews and Tom Brokaw didn’t give you the information you needed to make an informed decision. "

    TIME TO GROW UP wrote on Nov 9, 2008 12:39 PM:

    " The government is not your daddy! Grow up and take some responsibility for your situation for a change! I recommend you familiarize yourselves with Basic Economics. Anyone with common sense knows that you can’t build an economy by punishing the producers. You have to encourage the non-producers (aka the moochers-you) to produce. Stupid Obama wants to build this economy from the bottom up! That’s like a homeless guy hiring a rich guy to mow his lawn. And you bought it. Hook, line and sinker. "

    DR wrote on Nov 9, 2008 11:49 AM:

    " Whew, seems like a lot of mad folks in here. Lets start by indicting the criminal Wall St. ppl who got us in this mess. And, we as Americans need to take more responsibility in what we do financially, It has never been easier to borrow money, and get into needless debt.
    Remember that what we buy depreciates, and while we are paying off that loan, what we have aint worth much. "

    To Too the Moochers wrote on Nov 9, 2008 11:42 AM:

    " You are absolutely correct. I'm not rich, but I am quite comfortable. Pulled out of the stock market, sent it offshore (no taxes). Ditto with savings, cds, money market. I expect to pay about half, or less, in taxes than I paid last year by reducing my income. Sadly, my charitable giving will be slashed by half or more next year, but that's the way it goes. I won't be giving tax money to anyone, and I might even see my first refund in years! "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 9, 2008 11:38 AM:

    " To: Frank
    Who's whining? I'm absolutely stoked & happy at our choice in electing our new President elect Bushama... oops... I mean Obama :D
    Who would have thought, The Bush policy was always a fan favorite but, not the face on the policy. Take the same policy, put a new, young, black face on it, & Viola! We're all united again!
    BUSHAMA! BUSHAMA! BUSHAMA! "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 9, 2008 11:12 AM:

    " To: TO Free thinker
    Obama has always maintained to keep The bush tax cuts in effect?
    Are you telling me that Obama agrees with Bush?
    LOL! Bushama does sound better than McBush or McSame LOL!!
    Hey don't get angry at me. I'm on your side now! :)
    Who cares if a (D) or a (R) follows the Presidents last name. All I care about is the Bush tax cuts remain in effect, a military presence maintained in Iraq, & Iran disallowed to have Nuclear capability.
    That's thew 3rd term of GWB!
    Viva La Black Bush! "

    To Nobama wrote on Nov 9, 2008 10:32 AM:

    " The masses have already started sacrificing their children, haven't you seen the override results? "

    Democrat Bailout wrote on Nov 9, 2008 8:14 AM:

    " You blame this economy on Bush. For your information, He suggested bailing out the banks, it was the Democrat run house and Senate that wrote and passed the bill in record time. And when they didn’t have the votes to pass it,they added more pork to it. Have you ever seen Congress move that fast? When have you ever seen Democrats side with this President? It is Democrats who fight domestic oil drilling, we have to rely on our good friends in the Middle East and Chavez for oil. Do you realize "

    To the Moochers wrote on Nov 9, 2008 8:08 AM:

    " The rich already pay their share of taxes. As a matter of fact; the top 5% pay 85% of the taxes. Those of you moochers who think you are going to squeeze more blood out of “THE RICH” are sadly mistaken! They will take their marbles and go play somewhere else. We will loose more jobs, the stock market will go lower and then where will Obama get that money he promised you loafers?!! You can punish hardworking, successful Americans only so much. "

    To the Moochers wrote on Nov 9, 2008 8:07 AM:

    " The fact of the matter is, nobody won! You asked for change and you are going to get it. Now instead of the long waits in the ER, you will be waiting hours in your doctor’s office. You need an ultrasound? Put your name on the waiting list! People already get government sponsored medical care. An illegal alien can come in this country and get free medical care. It’s called Medicaid and it’s very badly managed (guess who pays for that)! "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 9, 2008 5:22 AM:

    " Ok as an example you can see the circular arguement here. Look at Hererford res. responses and others. Ask them direct questions or pose them with ideas and they will focus on every reason to go against your idea because they did not have it. Now I stated that the your guy lost, BOHOOOO. Focus on the idea, not the SPELLING. Answere the questiion. Is it unpatriotic to not support the President. Are you an AMERICAN or only a member of the GOP? Soask somebody for a new thought and focus on getting things done and not War. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 9, 2008 5:14 AM:

    " Sounds like you H R. Again, I pointed out Grammar and now here you go again. You were wrong on bothe counts. How do you knowI voted Obama. You can't say that for sure. I have said nothing liberal, etc. You have a wek arguement and childlike manners. Good attempt at using my tacticts, "You just proved..." Well you proved you are narrow minded and the true follower. I forgot you are probably prior service and only used to taking orders. No free thought in the military and here you are proving it. TEHEEEEEE You FUNNY, HAHA Bad Grammar? HEHEEH "

    TO Free thinker wrote on Nov 9, 2008 4:00 AM:

    " What pot induced cherrios are you eating? Obama has always maintained to keep The bush tax cuts in effect. You repubicans have always said it wouldn't happen. You people are the bottom of the barrel. You lie and cheat. Please leave this forum and sign on with the anti-american fox news propaganda network. "

    BUBU wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:54 PM:

    " Wow It shows how everyone Loves bashing each other. All of you should just chill out im not talking just to Mcain suppoters but also Obama. Start at home, ITS NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU ITS WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY. I just look around me and see all race's have hate not just one but ALL. Im Niether Black,White,Mexican,Arab ect. But there are times when I walk around the mall and feel the vibes, but I don't care I just Walk an enjoy my day. PEOPLE YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.....PEACE "

    Tina wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:06 PM:

    " Nobama - That was very revealing, and at the same time quite amusing, "God help the dems if the repubs can field a decent candidate." Pretty funny, actually. And, "Obama still barely won." Did you not see the electoral and population vote count? Either way, one must question your intellectual capacity. "

    Frank wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:00 PM:

    " I guess Phil Gramm was correct. There is nothing more pathetic than a bunch of patriotic whiners! Hereford Resident, Free Thinker, and TeeHee are the perfect examples of spoiled brats. They are, what one could unmistakenly refer to as, "sorry losers." "

    raymond wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:17 PM:

    " Yes, Obama is very UN-American in my eyes! For many reasons we all know why. Read the history of when our National Athem was written. When you finish that go back and read WHY Obama refuses to sing OUR National Athem. Try to make sense of that FACT. Key word to look up is Francis Scott Key, who sat on a British ship watching America being bombed by British ships. Also look up United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171 I find that to be unbecoming conduct of an American, more so a President. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 8, 2008 7:53 PM:

    " I am absolutely loving this new Obama I'm seeing today! President elect Obama made it very clear; He will NOT raise taxes on the wealthy in this struggling economy He will NOT pull out of Iraq prematuretly & he sent a cold, stern message to the Dictator of Iran, Ahmadinejad..YOU WILL NOT HAVE NUCLEAR CAPABILTY!!!
    Viva La Black Bush!!! "

    TeeHee wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:41 PM:

    " Was reading another blog, and a Tennessee busines owner had to let 12 employees go. He felt that because Obama wouldn't answer the question about tax hikes, he would start preparing now, but how to choose who got walking papers. He went out to the parking lot, made note of who had Obama bumper stickers. They got the pink slips. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 8, 2008 5:28 PM:

    " To Proud Democrat. You are absolutely right. Hillary was the better choice for your party and has much more experience than Obama does. Too bad Obama and his superstar like status overshadowed her. No body wanted to hear what she was talking about because all they really could hear was change and hope, never mind how he was going to change anything. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 8, 2008 5:22 PM:

    " To Wide Awake: You just proved my point again. Reread your post and you will see your grammar sucks too. You should have used an instead of and. I will say it again. Goes to show you the amount of idiots that voted for Obama just because he looked good. Hollywood tells you to go vote for someone and you jump all over it. Amazing how TV rots your brain. "

    Interesting wrote on Nov 8, 2008 1:30 PM:

    " Interesting that Senator Obama has been called un-American, and that seems fair to many. Then, some spew hate, but to call them un-American is wrong. We are all Americans. We have many opinions and views. But to call someone un-American based on his or her views is narrow and wrong. "

    Proud Democrat wrote on Nov 8, 2008 12:01 PM:

    " I still feel this should have been Hillary's victory. I feel she was most qualified, but people could not deal with that. Now that a black man has been elected, I still hope in my lifetime I can see a woman with Hillary's intelligence and qualifications elected. Even haters have to admit she handled herself with grace/dignity and was not a sore loser. She did not hold a grudge and worked hard to get Barack elected. Just stop the black/white thing. She is a fine example for all of us, black or white. "

    Refer Her to Classifieds wrote on Nov 8, 2008 11:51 AM:

    " This is a public forum to discuss the election and should be used for that, not for some lounge owner to use for free advertising. Go to the Classifieds and pay for an ad, that's greed. I don't think anyone thinks for a minute your place is better than the other just around the block. If you are having 2 for 1, put an ad in the paper and I'm sure people will show; if not, they may choose for some other reason to go to the other bars. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 8, 2008 11:10 AM:

    " I too saw Obama's economic press conference today & noticed Our new President is back peddling on his campaign promises. It appears President Obama will not allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, take a different position on tax increases upon the wealthy, & maintain our military presence in Iraq. LOL! meet the new boss, same as the old boss LOL! The only change we will see is the color of the new boss & how the media writes the story with a positive glow.
    It's Bush policy with a new author "

    nobama wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:37 AM:

    " Fact is that McCain was a loser candidate form the beginning. The first thing I thought about him was "why are the repubs throwing the fight with a candidate who cannot win?" Fact is that even with a noncharismatic idiot candidate, Obama still barely won. God help the dems if the repubs can field a decent candidate. "

    nobama wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:31 AM:

    " Messiah? We will see what kind of Messiah. When people get to the point where they are willing to worship another human being it is just a matter of time before the really crazy crap starts. What is next? Will you bamaniacs build an alter and start sacrificing your children to him? "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:29 AM:

    " Hereford Res., No you were the only one to point out James's "spelling errors" and again, they are Grammar errors. It is you who needs and education. To Free Thinker, thanky you for listing the things messed up with America and that the GOP is resposible. LOL Your logic will not work in print. Circular arguaments only work with the spoken word and the military.HEhe You guys are fun. Now that you didn't win you will not support the Pres. I see children do that all the time. BOhooo now SHOW YOUR PATRIOTISM or is do as I say... "

    Frank wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:13 AM:

    " Free Thinker - You should be grateful that this message board does not discriminate or weed out moronic commentary. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:09 AM:

    " To to be fair: No my 401k is doing fine because I know how to manage it. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:07 AM:

    " To to Hereford Resident: No no no no no. You seem to think I hate Obama as a person. NO, I don't like any of his policies therefore I will not support him in any way, just like liberals did not support Bush in anyway. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:03 AM:

    " To Mr. For Obama: Why didn't you leave when Bush got elected? You libs only know one thing and that is you know how to lie. You all said the same thing about Bush when he got reelected and you stayed. Again you talk out of your third point of contact way too much. "

    Upright wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:52 AM:

    " I challenge everyone on this and every other political thread on the Herald online to post WITHOUT using the words "lib" or "liberal" as an invective. (Which has been done at least 14 times on this page already.) Demonizing the left and portraying “the liberals" as some monolithic and evil force betrays a lack of analysis and critical thinking. This is nonsense that only polarizes our country further. United we stand, divided we fall, remember? Try being part of the solution, for a change. "

    xxhmmmx wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:51 AM:

    " to Ivoted:
    Your assumptions based on nothing are preposterous. Just because you have political differences with him and his supporters, does not mean that he doesn't (didn't) love his family. So then you proceed to assume he won't attend the funeral, assume that he doesn't care for anyone, and assume that he'll throw anyone under the bus. Sounds like you need to exam your own thought processes. Demonizing those who disagree with your ideas did not work in this election, and will prevent American's from moving forward. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 8, 2008 8:02 AM:

    " To:The Ideological nonsense is over
    That's right, the GOP is crushed & gone! You will no longer have the GOP in your big book of excuses to point the finger of blame at.
    It's all on your shoulders now!!! LOL!!
    The 2 "Endless" wars..
    The Recession..
    The Deficit..
    A Nation divided..
    40% of uninsured Americans..
    A Nation hated amongst the world..
    Now unless all of the above isn't true, why I would say your hero in charge has a lot of fixing to do.
    And he has just 4 years to accomplish this.. LOL!!! Good Luck!! LOL!! "

    Beware of Tyranny wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:02 AM:

    " ...also, check out change.gov to see Obama's plans. The msm (mainstream media) can not be trusted, we have been used to forward the (gov) agenda. Maybe the denial as of late by the media has something to do with the "Fairness Doctrine Act", we lose and the msm gains. Stop the brainwashing, there is still time to wake up and see what's really going on. Better now then later, and quit calling it "un-American" or "racsist". Keep your eyes on the ball. I speak out of patriotism not hate. We're being had, it'sheartbreaking! "

    Beware of Tyranny wrote on Nov 8, 2008 5:50 AM:

    " Just because some of us are anti-Obama, it doesn't mean we are pro-Bush or racsist. That's ignorant. Right is right, Obama should have provided legit proof of citizenship. Turn off the main news, we have/are being lied to. As far as Bush being praised for 9/11, there is overwhelming evidence (cspan.org) that 9/11 was preventable and powers were abused. Thr "attack" was used to enact bills that took away our rights (through fear). Why is it un-american to pursue justice. Our soldiers are being used, truly support them, not their death wish (invain). "

    The Ideological nonsense is over wrote on Nov 8, 2008 4:51 AM:

    " My word... you all are quick to judge someone who hasn't even taken office yet. I supported Bush when he took office and after 4 years, I didn't. After 8 years I really didn't.(never voted for him, but supported, none the less) I'm not on one side or the other. I just want a solution to our problems, great and small. You can't break Obama down. He has been tried in every political show down you can think of. And even through all of that, he still stands on side of caution, in order to make the RIGHT choice. "

    still standing wrote on Nov 8, 2008 12:22 AM:

    " Obama held an economic press conference today. Obama, first insulted past First Lady Nancy Reagan (WHY?), said "uh" a lot, stated he read a book on Lincolin, stated he spoke with several past Presidents on economics, said "uh" a lot, and stated he was considering a dog for his girls. Said "uh" a lot, and spouted his usless campaign retoric (non-answer) to the only legitimate question, would he be taxing upper income Americans with "uh" interjected many times. Thanks "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:38 PM:

    " To "Mr. For Obama", why are we so quick to assume what Obama's going to do? Because its what he said he would do (raise taxes on a struggling economy). Don't you listen to the people you are voting on???
    To: Question Answer following your logic, if I start out a conversation with, "I'm not a millionaire yet" does that make me one?
    I like Still Standing's point, lets show this president the same, "respect" libs have shown for our sitting president. "

    DR wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:34 PM:

    " I think a fight would break out if all the bloggers here were in the same room.
    To the Dems, remember thou Kool-aid you have been drinking, sober up, Obama cant fulfill all these promises. He doesnt have the money. Obama's true colors will be visible soon enough, and I may laff or simply pray for him, but I will be watching, because he isnt what he appears to be. Just wait and see. "

    to be fair wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:31 PM:

    " TO HEREFORD RESIDENT u dont have to worry about health care 401K etc because bush has already screwed it up and hes not even done yet. "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:21 PM:

    " What’s wrong Hummm cant back up any of the points you try to make so you just continue to come up with different names? We had a movie not too long ago about assassinating a sitting US president, liberals told us, "perhaps we should look at the underlying points this movie makes", now, you disagree with the head of their party you’re a racist. Its nice to see these "champions of free speech" (at least when it comes to flag burning or spitting on soldiers) are when it comes to something they disagree with, yea, really principled. "

    to Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:23 PM:

    " I have never once in my life hated President Bush, I prayed for him every day and asked God to bless his decisions. However, I did object to his positions and policies. That is the American way. I have no problem with people objecting to policies of the government, that is our freedom as Americans. There is a huge difference between objecting and being objectionable. Your hatred is objectionable and truly unAmerican. You can object, but to hate is wrong "

    The Ideological nonsense is over wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:19 PM:

    " Thank God the GOP has been crushed. They deserve it too. The United States citizens participated in their Democracy and made it happen, for the good of all. For you hard right conservatives who wanted John McCain to win, well, I guess you all should have gotten out the vote more. Of course, it may not have mattered, because your base lost the independent and moderate conservative vote, because just like the Democrats, they too are sick of the mess Bush and friends have created. Brains are back! Let’s get to work! "

    Sista Girl wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:39 PM:

    " TLO - You can be black as the Ace of Spades or white as Casper the Friendly Ghost. Do you think Barack is going to do anything for you? What drugs are you on? Just get on with your life and stop the hatin and let Barack do his job now. "

    Already Changed wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:14 PM:

    " Obama has already brought change to this country and I have confidence that he will go down in history as one of the most powerful and competent presidents ever. He will not let this country down. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 7, 2008 5:22 PM:

    " Congratulations President elect Obama. You have inherited a recession (soon to be a depression by your words), a deficit, 2 wars, & a divided nation. I sure hope you have a plan to fix this mess besides repeating the word "Change" for the next 4 years LOL!
    Yes sir "E" Bob, I'm going to sit back, watch, listen, & laugh my but off at the 44th President vote "Present" on all of the above! LOL!!
    Why didn't V.P. Biden predicts severe test for Obama in first six months?
    What, another question from Joe the Plumber LOL! "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 7, 2008 5:07 PM:

    " To: To Free Thinker
    Obama will cut spending? LOL!!! How can anyone cut spending when their administration promised a universal Health care program? No Bush didn't create a surplus & balance the budget but, he did create a booming economy! Just do some research on Barack Obama's credit history & you will see he became a first time millionaire during the Bush years.
    So tell me To Free Thinker, if Obama didn't make any promises of a balanced budget, surplus, & booming economy then you tell me what DID Obama promise to you?
    Besides change LOL! "

    Question Answer wrote on Nov 7, 2008 4:18 PM:

    " For those who don't know it.........
    If you start a conversation or say, "I'm not racist or anything" You are a RACIST! "

    Mr. For Obama wrote on Nov 7, 2008 4:14 PM:

    " If McCain would have taken office, along with his stupid side-kick Palin. I would have tried to get out of here. "

    Mr. For Obama wrote on Nov 7, 2008 4:13 PM:

    " You all are crazy!!! You are so quick to ASSUME what this man is going to do. I bet you all are the same ones who votes for BUSH, not once but twice. So thank YOU for bringing our country down. If you are so upset about Obama, get out of this country. I'm sure others like myself would love to see you leave! "

    Ivoted wrote on Nov 7, 2008 4:05 PM:

    " My question about Obama, now that his Grandmother died, I have not heard anything about him going to her funeral service. Sounds like someone was thrown under the bus...the Obama bus. Time will tell how he treats the rest of his cronies. Hey, Oprah, you make a lot of money, Obama wants you to share your wealth to everyone! Thanks for supporting him and all the rest of Hollywood! "

    Dont Hate the Player Hate the Game wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:55 PM:

    " Celebrate Obama. Yall go over to Linda's and dig in the Crock Pot. I'll be over at the Cafe; they got some good food there and Dwayne knows how to treat folks the southern way! I'll have a few cocktails for Obama and wish him well. Be cool...don't hate the player, hate the game. "

    Hudathought wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:00 PM:

    " Who would have thought that in our lifetime a black man would be president.
    I am not racist at all, but wonder how all the change came about so quick in this nation. What is the attraction? Why didn't McCain stick to issues that have gotten other Republicans in office? "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:59 PM:

    " To to be fair: Ok that may be your biggest problem but I have many more with Obama. He wants to take my money and give it to lazy people. He wants to destroy my 401k. He wants to destroy healthcare. I could go on but the SVH only allows 99 words on here. Face it once Obama starts backing off his promises you liberals will finally wake up, hopefully. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:55 PM:

    " To to first svian: Why not blame Obama for the market. You guys kept blaming Bush so why not return the favor. You see you liberals are so quick to tell us to support Obama but yet you never supported Bush so explain why should we support a moron like Obama since you call Bush a moron? "

    Sista Ready to Party for Obama wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:54 PM:

    " Girl, I'll be up there for my 2 for 1, but don't be doin no hatin. Dyawne know how to party so don't go there. He will outparty your Obama party; he can party hard and will. Plug in that crock pot, girl! "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:53 PM:

    " To to herford resident: No he won't. Your boy Jimmy Carter already has that honor. Also would love to have seen Billy boy do any better during a war. He was too busy getting it on with his interns. Now Obama will probably take that honor from Jimmy Carter within the next 4 years. "

    Get My Drink On for Obama wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:39 PM:

    " Linda is a cheapskate, but I'll be there for the 2 for 1 to celebrate Obama. You go, girl! "

    Change - Gray wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:35 PM:

    " Black and white equal gray. No disrespect, but can someone black tell me why everyone feels he is black and not bi-racial. I'd say he is 50/50; not 51/49. If he had black blood in him, but looks resembled more of a white person, would you still feel the same? I'm interested in how blacks feel about this, but can I get an answer without hate or any nasty remarks since I feel I asked a question more out of curiousity than hatefulness. Just don't say I wouldn't understand unless I was black. "

    to be fair wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:32 PM:

    " yes presedent bush deserves credit because we havent been attacked since 9/11 but the problem is he went to war with the wrong country iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. We shouldve focus on finding bin laden. now were spending 10 billion a month thats why were in the hole thats my biggest problem with bush "

    T wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:21 PM:

    " I have read these comments and can't believe it! I was sure if Obama lost, it would be a race thing....but no! He won! and if any one disagrees with his ideas they are racist bigots? come on people! I hate very little but what I do hate, is racists and people who "push" racism. If someone is a jerk, I am not going to say nice things about them, because it's politically incorrect to speak ill of any person, of a non-caucasian background. It's reverse racism. But hey Bush was a white man...how many non-white people were called bigots? "

    cochisechat.com wrote on Nov 7, 2008 2:08 PM:

    " Question: Who voted for OBAMA? Live with it people he's your president.
    Obviously not many supported McCain. Why?
    Why? Look who was a heartbeat away from being president. "

    Unfair Cheap Advertising wrote on Nov 7, 2008 12:01 PM:

    " See Election 2008 - Obama Wins White House, Nov 4 article. Comments say Linda is having a big party, two for one all weekend, to celebrate Obama win. Drivers, stay off the road and be safe and I hope the police keep an eye out for drunk drivers. Article said her party better than Dwayne and Mom. Economy is hard for all of us, but pay for advertising instead of using this forum. "

    WKma wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:17 AM:

    " Barack Obama won this election. You keep calling on God to help us,and he has answered. He gave a MAN who has called on the AMERICAN people to turn this Country around and they VOTED! Why do you think he would do a WORST job than a "Born With A Silver Spoon IN HIS Mouth" white man,who should be sent to GITMO to run that into the ground too.Barack IS!America!Part of the land where life began(Africa)to the HEARTLAND of AMERICA,Kansas!May the FATHER,SON,HOLYGHOST,open your eyes to what is going on in America and the World. "

    TO first svian wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:16 AM:

    " The troops cuts already started in case you haven't been following the news. Also, Obama isn't even in the WH yet and you want to blame a bad day on Wall Street on Obama??? Are you for real? No wonder why you people lost the election, you are so full of yourselves. To The Hereford moron - Get a life. Go to Mexico if you don't like the direction we are headed. Don't like our President elect then move. We don't need or want your types here. You lost the WH and more seats in Congress because of you. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:09 AM:

    " To to free thinker: Ok you guys always bring this up but remember we have been at war for 7 years now and in order to fight a war it takes money. With the money Obama spent on his campaign he could have paid off some of this bailout. Liberals are quick to throw money at a candidate to get him elected but they look for every way out of paying taxes when it comes time to give for other reasons. "

    TO HEREFORD RESIDENT wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:07 AM:

    " THE TRUTH THAT U DONT WANNA HEAR IS THAT UR BROTHER BUSH WILL GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE WORSE PRESIDENTS IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S. HE CREATED THIS MESS SOBER UP HEREFORD MAN U NEED TO GET UR HEAD CHECKED U ARE SO FULL OF HATE. GET OVER IT OBAMA WON "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:04 AM:

    " To Wide Awake: You are more sound asleep than awake. I was not the only one that noticed it but James sounds like an ignorant person that has a 3rd grade education just from the way he talks. And to answer you other question, no I did not post that under the name James. Why would I stoop to a liberal's level of attack. "

    still standing wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:37 AM:

    " In the true spirit of bipartisanship, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican President, for 8 years, every day, over and over. "

    first time voter wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:53 AM:

    " I was a first time voter this election. I focused very closely on what each person stood for. I did not vote for Obama, but will support him. He has been given a very hard task coming in the office in the situation we are in. I hope he can give what he promised. If not, we are in trouble. "

    New to SV wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:41 AM:

    " How can so many of you claim that conservatives hate Obama and say how unfair it is when you liberals turn around and say hateful things about Bush and how glad you are that he is out of office. Why can't you liberals give Bush the credit he deserves for acting after 9/11. In case you forgot, the whole country wanted justice after that. There has not been another attack on our soil since 9/11. Obama's own VP said that Obama will be tested. Bush leaves and we are once again vulnerable to attacks. "

    first svian wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:55 AM:

    " while I did not vote for the man, I wish him well as our new president, just hope that he does not start back-steping on all those promises he made, if so, then he lied just to get elected. and I fear, the troop pull out will not materialize, nor will the tax cuts, and if that is the case, then just what change has taken place? "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:43 AM:

    " To free Thinker, I agree, I found it amazing that the press was trying to downplay the post election market drop. Saying it was a drop due to Freddy and Fannie being forced to make sub prime loans. All you need is 1 person to ask, "well, who forced that?". When the merket improves for a little while I am sure we will be treated to steady diet of "The Great Obama Recovery" in the media. It will be interesting to see what they say when it crashes after that. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 7, 2008 7:32 AM:

    " to justbecuz: McCain was being politically correct but he knows that true conservatives will not stand for Obama's crap. I ask this question again. If you libs want us to support Obama then why for 8 years you guys would not support Bush? Why the double standard? Sorry but I will never support Obama and hope he is looked at hard because he will screw up and just like you libs did to Bush, we will do to Obama. It is only fair to spread the hate as you libs did towards Bush. "

    To Free Thinker wrote on Nov 7, 2008 3:00 AM:

    " In case you missed it the senate is in the Congress. Your blog at 6:50PM makes you sound stupid. Did Bush balance the budget? Did Bush create a surplus? Did Bush create a booming economy? The answer to all those questions is no. Has Obama promised any of those things? No. Will Obama make our economy better than the recession it is in now? Probably. Will Obama cut spending? Yes. Republicans don't understand that in order to spend you have money. Republicans bought on credit the last 8 years now you want Obama to fix Bush's bad record? Wow! "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:06 PM:

    " Come on Hereford Resident, are you James? You are the only one to point out the Grammar errors. They are not spelling errors as you stated. Did you write the comment as "James" and then come back and point out all of the "Spelling" errors? Nice try Mr. Bunker. LOL Again, shame on the editor. "

    nobama wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:36 PM:

    " In response to "Hawaiian officials have stated that there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii." If that is the same article I am thinking of, she contradicts herself later. I don't want this to be true, but I do want the truth. And as far as the stamp, there are other issues being pressed surrounding his citizenship that Obama refuses to address. Constant updates on www.patriotbrigaderadio.com. Please check out the links before responding. I repeat this is not about hate. I would love to see a black man in office, justnotthis1. "

    nobama wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:28 PM:

    " Let me educate you, Documents are all over the web (turn off the tv, media blackout), see www.obamacrimes.com or simply search "phil berg v obama" or "v obama". (There are numerous cases in progress). It's all over talk radio. We are being denied of info in the masses. I personally do not feel hate, I feel fear. Alot of us are only trying to spread information; thats not out of hate. Please, I urge you, take the emotion out of it, it's the only way. The judge has requested proof by 12/01. http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/news/50-justice-souter-denies-injunction-for-stay-of-presdidential-election "

    To Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:44 PM:

    " Where do you get your information about a case in the Supreme Court to prove Obama birth? One of those websites you talk about? "

    justbecuz wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:20 PM:

    " Life is on borrowed time and you bigots are wasting it on hate. Those of us who voted for Obama want change. It will be a very, very rocky road ahead because of the mess Bush made. McCain made a beautiful speech and offered his assistance and support to Obama. Be the better man or woman and do the same.
    P.S. When America begins thriving and money begins to flow back into our pockets, remember you haters; do not except it. Because what would your friends think. :-) "

    My Opinion wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:12 PM:

    " He isn't even a true black, of course he played that card for more votes. He may be a nice man, but he ain't stupid either. "

    FYI wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:22 PM:

    " Hawaiian officials have stated that there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii. Challenges to Obama's citizenship have been tossed.
    http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04 "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:20 PM:

    " Free thinker, you know what is even more funny is that these morons are still dancing around like idiots after he said those remarks. Amazing what stupid people will do. Gonna love it when these idiots finally wake up from their kool-aid buzz they have been on for the last 2 years. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:17 PM:

    " jg I do support Bush because for the last 7 years I have not had to worry about my safety because he has kept this country safe by fighting terrorists on their own ground. The problem is libs like you seem to have forgotten September 11th, 2001 and what our country went through and what we are still fighting. Apparently you have never served your country otherwise you would know how tough it is. Finding someone like Bin Laden is not as easy as Hollywood would have you believe. "

    justcommonsense wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:00 PM:

    " To those of you concerned about Obama's birth certificate being phony because there is no seal, listen up. The seal is on the BACK of the birth certificate. The seal has a number and they don't want to shut down their system by giving out this information. It's common sense, not rocket science. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:50 PM:

    " It's going to be an interesting 4 years that's for sure! With a Democratic controlled White House, Senate, & Congress I hope everyone here understands there is no more blame to be placed on the Republicans. It's all your responsibility now to create a booming economy, balanced budget, & a surplus in just 4 years!
    LOL!!! GOOD LUCK! ;) LOL! "

    Upright wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:39 PM:

    " To Disagreements: I was going to compose my own post but you said it better.
    It's worth repeating - God bless our new President and God bless America. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:30 PM:

    " Frank wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:31 PM:
    " To - Free Thinker. A couple of months ago you stated, "after this election and when Obama loses, he can go on Dancing with the Stars, LOL." Was that not a little premature of you? Are you still laughing? "
    Yes I am still laughing. I'm laughing at our elected president's acceptance speech in which he admtited to not being able to fulfill all of those promises he made to people like yourself in order to get elected.
    LOL! "

    Raymond wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:13 PM:

    " If Obama supports the burning of the American flag, which we all know he has attended two American Flag burnings. That Obama will admit too. I ask Mr. Obama what is your stance on Cross burnings? In my eyes their is no difference. "

    Wide Awake wrote on Nov 6, 2008 3:26 PM:

    " Sorry the comments were posted by James in this article.You will never make me believe that James is a PRIDE Black Man. Read the comments and tell me if you do not beleive this to be an attempt to pose as a PRIDE BLACK MAN and use the same manner of poor grammar throughout his post. Shame on the editors or Congratulations you are perpetuating the steryotypical PRIDE BLACK MAN. "

    SPQR wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:16 PM:

    " Frank, what you fail to understand is the Republican and the Democratic parties are both in the wrong. A lot of empty promises have been made and the only "change" that will take place is MORE Government involvement in our lives. That might sound good to some of you, but to those of us who appreciate liberty and understand personal responsibility are extremely frustrated with the ignorant masses. "

    jg wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:51 PM:

    " Hereford Resident,
    Why aren't you supporting Bush? Or maybe you still are. Anyone who would vote that moron into office twice should not be allowed to vote ever again. "

    nobama wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:48 PM:

    " In response, even our soldiers know it's breaking the law if you know something is illegal and you do it because the president (or the the police) says. Even he is not above the law. Don't assume all nobamas are pro bush, that's shows your mentality. There is a difference between loyalty to your country and loyalty to your president, he's not a King, he's turned out to be worse. As far as me being anti-american...is that because I think that even Obama needs to comply, your alls emotions is what got us into this mess. "

    jg wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:44 PM:

    " nobama,
    Really? The birth certificate on fact check has proven to be a fraud. Where is your proof of that assertion? Luckily for you there are countless other reliable sites which prove the validity of his birth certificate. Why are still bringing this up anyway? It is old news. He is our President elect. Get with the program. "

    To Hereford resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:29 PM:

    " It seems to me that you are doing the same thing as the "libs". it would seem your the hypocrite. If spending your time running spell check on others makes you feel educated then you are ignorant one.
    The lack of support for bush is based of the aweful job he has done, not his political party. But if are supporting his bad moves in spite. Then you get another notch on your ignorant stick. "

    to az guy wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:26 PM:

    " You were ripped off at ASU, get your money back. I'll back you. "

    Pancho wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:20 PM:

    " Hereford Resident - The country's majority no longer supports Bush because they have concluded that he is a totally ineffective leader and brought this Nation to the very edge of ruin. It just took some people longer to understand this, but that's where we are. You will obviously never quite understand this, so that speaks volumes about your standards." "

    MAG wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:00 PM:

    " We should support the president no matter who is elected. That does not mena that conservatives should be door mats, respectfully oposed is what I will be if Obama tries something I do not like. Everyone stand by, history will repeat. The libs can't help but push thier agenda when they are in power, we just have to get back to true conservatism and wait for the oportunity. The narrow minds will still call us racsists and bigots but we will be back. "

    TaxPayer wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:18 PM:

    " "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."
    -- Professor Alexander Tytler over 200 years ago "

    TLO wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:16 PM:

    " To ALL the haters out there, PLEASE get over it! Im glade Obama won! HAHA "

    Worried wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:15 PM:

    " Talking about hiding the facts! Why do we not have access to his college thesis? Why do we not have access to his birth certificate? He wants to take over your 401K (sounds drastic-check it out), to bankrupt the cole industry, to create a "domestic security force" (what the heck does that mean!?, spread the wealth, raise taxes on the "rich", (guess who pays those). But don't take my word for it, this all has come out of his mouth. Use your resources. "

    SV Cit wrote on Nov 6, 2008 12:05 PM:

    " The fact of the matter is that nobody knows much about Obama, yet you voted for him. Watch NPR's 30 Oct. program between Charlie Rose and Tom Brokaw. It's hillarious!! Obama won because the media told you he was "the one", "the messiah", he gave reporters chills, they never reported any negative stories about him, because he is "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy". Not because he is qualified in any way. And as far as the BC, it is a phony (no seal) "

    Disagreements wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:54 AM:

    " I enjoy a good political debate, but only when it is conducted intelligently and with respect. I see very little respect and intelligence in the posts. I see people spreading rumor as fact, people spouting hatred, and the usual mudslinging that occurs from both sides. Personally, I voted for Obama and was a Hillary supporter for a long time. I seriously considered McCain, but looked at issues and stances before deciding upon Obama. I say God bless our new President and God bless America. United we stand, divided we fall. I support the presidency. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:29 AM:

    " To Birth Certificate: How uneducated you liberals are. Just because his mother was a US citizen does not make someone that was born abroad a US Citizen automatically. Babies born to US citizens in foreign countries are citizens of that country. Do you think that the US has a monopoly on birth rights? You liberals make me laugh everyday with your ignorance. Also there is a case that is pending in the supreme court that is requiring Obama to prove his birth. Just because you see something on a website does not make it true. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:03 AM:

    " To To raymond: So why weren't you guys supporting Bush? What a bunch of double standard ignorant liberals. "

    nobamaand an independant wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:27 AM:

    " You have gone to far. I made no mention of Obama's race, you did. And he is not black, just because a small fraction of him is. To compare me with the KKK is not only racsist but ignorant. Shame on you! I will not support criminal activity just because he is a president (elect). It is you who needs check the facts. The most patriotic thing we can do is show dissent with our leadership when corruption is evident. If he was a citizen he wouldn't have filed a motion to dismiss. "

    Frank wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:13 AM:

    " SPQR - Yes indeed, we all couldn't be happier that change is coming our way! After doofus Bush, I would think you would be just as happy as well.. The GOP has almost totally ruined this nation - and once again the Democrats are being called upon to clean up the mess. "

    desert bat wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:57 AM:

    " It is good to know that the pitchfork- wavers here are not demoralized. I think you are wrong about Obama, about political liberals, and about your fellow gay countrymen and women, but the haze of your fear and hatred so completely defines you that you will never know it. Thankfully, the vast majority of youth get it, recognize you and reject your slithering, soul-eating, withered hearts. No Tee-shirts needed; there's a savings. "

    Pancho wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:53 AM:

    " To "Dang" - That was a pathetic and demonstrably ignorant thing to say. In trying to be cute, you only embarrass yourself. "

    aznative wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:52 AM:

    " So...do you think the Bush's will steal the White House china when they leave like the Clinton's did??? "

    az guy wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:52 AM:

    " HEYHEREFORD RESIDENT its people like u who divide this country u dont even know me how can u say im uneducated as a fact i went to asu for 2 years u need help dealing with ur withdrawls get over yourself go c a shrink do us a favor. "

    lmao wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:41 AM:

    " To all of you who fear the end is near, I say to you to please put down your crack pipes.Join the real world. "

    SPQR wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:57 AM:

    " Yay, four more years of overbloated Government bureaucracy telling us how we should live our lives and spending our money on the Congress' and Executive Office's special interests. I hope you're all happy now because "CHANGE" is coming our way! "

    Birth Certificate wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:52 AM:

    " See Obama's birth certificate. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
    Even if he wwere born outside the US, which he was not, his MOTHER was a US citizen and so is her son. Please, PLEASE quit the lies. And no, I'm not a raging Obama supporter. Just a person who believes in the truth. "

    TO raymond wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:45 AM:

    " Why are you racist? Why do you act like the KKK? Are you simply ignorant or are you that gullable? Same with NOBAMA. You two are the anti-Americans for not supporting the president. I hope the FBI finds you and locks you up and throws away the key! "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:41 AM:

    " az guy you and James must have gone to the same school and proves my point even more how Obama got the uneducated vote. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:39 AM:

    " James wrote "I am pride to be an Black American. Obama has just made me prider. George Bush serviced GOD purpose and now GOD has a purpose for Obama. It now our job as American to put Obama in our prayers to do GOD will for America. GOD BLESS AMERICAN. " First you are an ignorant person because you cannot even write properly. It is Proud not Pride. Second it is prouder not prider. Third it is Americans not American and fourth it is AMERICA NOT AMERICAN. Shows the ignorance that voted for Obama. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:34 AM:

    " To all you libs that say we all must support Obama I say no! The reason I do is you liberals never supported Bush at all but when a Dem gets in we all must support him. Apparently it only works for you guys when a Dem is in office but you bash and bash when a Republican is in. What a bunch of hypocrites you liberals are. I will never support Nobama because he will turn this country into another USSR. "

    disappointed wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:58 AM:

    " One thing still stands.... that God is STILL ON THE THRONE and in CONTROL!!!! And He always will be. Beware people, many in this nation will be deceived and there will come a time where God will say enough is enough and Judgement Day is coming.....P.S. Thank God, that Propostion 102 passed... at least some good came out of this election "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:52 AM:

    " To Nobama, you should know by now, disagreeing with a lib is hate(Strange how it doesn't work the other way around) . The simple fact is there is a double standard, why was it patriotic for Hillary to disagree with the president a few years ago and hateful for us to disagree with him now? The Dim bulb Dan Quale got reamed for "Patatoe", but Biden didn't (at least anywhere NEAR the same extent) for his "Jobs" being a 3 letter word comment, or saying FDR got on TV when the first market crash hit. "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:24 AM:

    " I guess I shouldn't be surprised "Hummm" is using the same old, tired, worn out, "McCain Hates Vets" line. Once more, his official line is he voted against it because of all the pork that was put into it. If you don't know what pork is ask Giffords. No I shouldn't, Hey, I'm still waiting for my figures that prove Bushes Tax Cut only give us a $1.50 a day! Or your source that says the market was up yesterday (despite the simple fact it was the biggest post election day drop in history). "

    Baffled wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:10 AM:

    " You know I wasn't a fan of Bush, but he IS the President. You people need to fall in line. You are obviously not military or you would have more respect for your new Commander-in-Chief. I can't believe the amount of ignorance in this town. The rest of the nation, and the world, laughs at you. "

    cochisechat.com wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:38 AM:

    " People.... People..... live with it. Obama has won. America has spoken. Now please Republicans/Conservatives don't take on the crying and lying as Liberals done for many years, behave yourselves and be Americans and support your country. "

    Hurrah for Vernon Jordan wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:27 PM:

    " Kudos to Vernon Jordan for telling Sharie Shepard (The View) while running her mouth about it was a victory for all black people, and he quickly shut her up and told her it was a victory for all people, not just blacks. She was boohoo'ing about her son having hope now..Pleez..He told the story of telling Barack it was not his time; he was supporting Hillary. He said his friendship with the Clintons came before his race. It was admirable to hear a black man of his caliber admit this election should not be about race. "

    Unhappy Democrat wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:17 PM:

    " The people have spoke, but I still feel they will later wish Hillary had won instead. I voted for McCain. Good Luck, Barack, you will need all the support you can get. Please focus on our soldiers, and not entertaining Oprah, Diddy and all your other friends who funded your campaign. "

    TAGALO LOVER wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:58 PM:

    " GOD BLESS AMERICA LAND THAT I LOVE STAND BESIDE HER AND GUIDE HER THRU NIGHT WITH LIGHT FROM ABOVE.

    PEACE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
    THE CHANGE OF AMERICA ONLY STARTS WITHIN OURSELVES AT HOME WITH OUR FAMILIES,WHAT WE TEACH THEM AND FEED THIER MINDS.
    DONT MATTER WHO'S PRESIDENT THE PEOPLE ARE MORE THAN ONE .
    THINK
    ONLY TIME WILL TELL.
    GOD BLESS............
    ONE LOVE ONE LIFE LETS GET TOGETHER AND FEEL ALLRIGHT....... "

    Jan wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:53 PM:

    " To meinaz...and you weren't ashamed when Bush sent our service men and women to war on a lie???? Thousands of innocent lives were lost for no reason at all!!! May God have mercy on you! "

    Expat wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:36 PM:

    " To all you who rant about Obama: The REAL silent MAJORITY finally has spoken, and it has elected a man who has more brains and humility than the lot of you combined. I hope you are ready to be judged, because you remain the most hateful lot of bigots who still exist in the USA. And, yes, I work to support the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. What do you people do for a living? Besides stew and complain? You make me sick to my stomach on a day in which the vast majority of Americans are happy. Go figure. "

    nobama wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:53 PM:

    " Just to clear up a few things. Wanting answers and holding someone accountable is not hate mongering. The BC on factcheck has been proven to be a fraud. Obama has until 12/01 to prove his citizenship or he's out unless corruption rears it's ugly head and the judge doesn't do what he took an oath to do. Obama is for change, changing the constitution. You Obama lovers out there have been so captured by the image and branding, his actions have become invisible. Only more troops will die because of him in Afghanistan/possibly Pakistan2. "

    raymond wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:18 PM:

    " Obama celebrates American flag burnings, is muslim not Christian, is very un-american, please sit next to me Obama at a sporting event, one if you do not get up and two do not say our Athem your butt will be mine. If this makes you a RED BLOODED American, then from this day forward American's that follow you are not Americans. YOU are not my President. my opinion and my freedom of speech! "

    No to Pete wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:09 PM:

    " Pete - may God have mercy on you. You'll need it. "

    DR wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:58 PM:

    " I have to write this, Obama won. Can the Democrats finally be happy? I ponder that now and will often ponder that. "

    DR wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:55 PM:

    " And also 1 more point, Bush is an easy target for blame, the Dems have a lot of dirty laundry too. They just think theirs dont stink. "

    DR wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:54 PM:

    " New world order? We have America because we fought and died for it. The Constitution is sacred and should be protected. We need to be civil in what we do, we dont all have to friends with the world. Just agree to share it. "

    DR wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:48 PM:

    " Obama has been elected, and, no one can make excuses anymore. He came from the bottom and made it to the top. That sounds pretty American to me. So why would a person who has been given the gift of living in America want to change it? Racism or lack of it begins within. If we would quit glorifying the gangsta, rap, hip hop lifestyle, a lot of things might get better. Being a gangsta is a choice like doing what Obama did. He made it to the highest office. This is an equal opportunity country.!!!!!!! "

    DR wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:41 PM:

    " So let me see, it you disagree with the win, or Obama, your a redneck. What people talk about is facts, not rhetoric.
    Why hasnt Obama explained his associations? And why has the media, not asked him history? Why is he exempt from answering the questions? Well, I suspect when all you Obamans sober up from the movie star complex, check your paycheck and see where your money goes, and then compare it these social programs. Not much will happen, except the gov will get bigger and your $$ will disappear. And your rights will go too. :) "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:19 PM:

    " McShame voted against the vets and wounded warriors every time since 1991. Was does that say about the man? He lost the vote with them. He is willing to send troops into battle at the blink of an eye, then when they come home injured he turns his back on them. McShame is a traitor to the military! He is a pathetic example of a leader. Now the repubicans are shattered and pieces are flying. The party is broke like their policies and ideas. "

    az guy wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:49 PM:

    " THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN OBAMA WON GET OVER IT QUIT SAYING LIES ABOUT HIM GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO LEAD IM SURE HE WILL B 100PERCENT BETTER THEN BUSH IF U GONNA SAY STUFF BOUT OBAMA BACK IT UP WITH REAL FACTS. "

    Independent wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:50 PM:

    " Trust the people. Trust your fellow citizens. Trust democracy. If you don't trust the citizens, then you are not worthy to lead them. A certain school board member comes to mind who says she is disappointed in you. Gee, I guess you all let her down. I say it is time for her to bend to the will of the people or take a hike. "

    John wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:36 PM:

    " Well put Guy Smiley!!! and as for the rest of the DEM bashers,and sore loser republicans LIVE WITH IT no way will Mr. Obama be as bad as BUSH "

    Dang wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:35 PM:

    " I wanted to vote, but I didn't feel it would be fair to the illegals that don't get a chance to. "

    Frank wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:31 PM:

    " To - Free Thinker. A couple of months ago you stated, "after this election and when Obama loses, he can go on Dancing with the Stars, LOL." Was that not a little premature of you? Are you still laughing? "

    James wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:29 PM:

    " I am pride to be an Black American. Obama has just made me prider. George Bush serviced GOD purpose and now GOD has a purpose for Obama. It now our job as American to put Obama in our prayers to do GOD will for America. GOD BLESS AMERICAN. "

    just breath wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:07 PM:

    " WOW! crack heads are less paranoid than you people. Obama is not going to take your guns, or welcome illegal’s. Nor will we turn into a third world country. his election has already improved our relations with many other counties. perhaps you should hope for improvement rather than cursing your country. The entire world is happy, what is your problem. Maybe you should form a support group so you can sit and pout together. "

    get over it wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:36 PM:

    " Bush and therepublican party has done an awful job. Im sure Obama can do no worse.
    The entire world is celebrating along with the majority of the country. so it seems that y’all are just the bitter minority. Its you against the world, you lose, your wrong. And FYI his mother was a citizen making him as well. The media does not report it cause its not an issue. Only one who care the bitter trying to find a flaw, and your stupid to say an international background equals a bad citizen. If anything its made him better. "

    Pete wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:15 PM:

    " Well looks like the END is near for the USA, our country will become a third world country,when Osama ( woops I mean Obama ) takes all the guns away from the good guys the criminals will take over this country like in Mex. Central Amer. and South Amer. Yes people this is the END. may God have mercy on what we have done to our selves. "

    layor wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:03 PM:

    " my god in heaven, we lived with a liar and a maniac (god spoke to him ??and told him to go to war) for 8 years and you bunch of wimps are crying about obama and he is not even president yet !!! WHAT PLANET WERE YOU ON when they proved Bush stole the election ?? I am ashamed to read these racial comments because that's all they are..what happened to the republican party of Barry Goldwater ?? GREED HAPPENED. I would be ashamed to be a "new" republican. GOD BLESS AMERICA and all you nutcases too. "

    OMG wrote on Nov 5, 2008 4:08 PM:

    " Look at all the rednecks posting here. What a shame. These are people who don't want higer taxes or fees but who gladly take government handouts when no one's looking. "

    God Help Us wrote on Nov 5, 2008 3:09 PM:

    " Obama people,in a couple of years you'll be crying and no one to blame but yourselves. Your money will be sucked out of your pockets and given to those who do nothing. Unemployment will skyrocket and homes will be lost. Illegals will take over our country because they'll find a safe haven. Never been so scared in my life for this country and my children. FEAR -- that's what the rest of this country is living in -- true fear. INVESTOR: What planet do you live on? Dow plunged. "

    Birth Certificate wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:50 PM:

    " If you think Obama was born in Kenya, please read the following article:

    http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news "

    To Mike wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:47 PM:

    " Mike, Obama is not Muslim, he is Christian American. He was born of an Africa man and a white woman in Hawaii. He was raised by his white grandmother. I am tired of the lies that people perpetuate about the man who will be our President come January 20th. The people have spoken, Obama is the next president, its time to support the man who was voted into office. "

    Our Country wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:44 PM:

    " To all who did not vote, I feel you have no right to complain. If you did not take the time or make the effort to vote, you allowed others to voice their opinion with no input from you. To everyone who voted, thank you. Our country has spoken and has chosen Obama as our next president. No matter who you supported, its time to support our new president. I didn't like Bush but prayed for him every day and asked God's blessings upon him, I ask that you support and pray for Obama. "

    To nobama wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:41 PM:

    " To nobama who claims that Obama is not a natural born AMERICAN. Please refer to the following: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp "

    New to SV wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:32 PM:

    " If Obama starts to make decisions that aren't good then contact your congressman/woman or your senator. Bad mouthing our leader to each other does nothing. Be pro-active, be an American. Keep these politicians feet to the fire. And please remember that Obama can only do so much, the congress does a lot that hurts our country. Don't just watch the news... read for yourselves, research, find out what these bills are about. Stay educated wen it comes to what our government wants to do. This country needs the best out of it's citizens now more than ever. "

    New to SV wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:28 PM:

    " I had many conversations with people that hated Bush, and I told them that even you disagree with him he IS the president and should be backed instead of put down. I DID NOT want Obama for this job AT ALL... but... It's time for me to swallow my own words. I do not anticipate on agreeing with Obama on many issues but I will stand by my president as an American. I do however believe that we should question him and let our voices be heard so he doesn't ruin our country... cont "

    To Hmmmmmm wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:23 PM:

    " John McCain gave a classy speech conceding the presidency to Obama, he told his supporters to keep faith in America and stay united as a country and to help Obama as he starts this journey. Obama acknowledged McCain's service to this country and YOU come this forum and write a post like you did. You need to have citizenship stripped away. John McCain sacrificed more for this country than you can imagine. Who do you think you are to say anything about that man. "

    MAG wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:11 PM:

    " To Hmmmmmm: Don't be too sure, I am willing to give Nancy, Larry and Barney a chance to bring us back in say 4 or 8 years. Wait and see, I hope you will be more mellow then. "

    Finally wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:59 PM:

    " The remark that Obama was voted in because he is black is absolute rubbish, proof racism is still alive, and another way of saying that whomever posted that remark obviously based his own decision on race. Obama is a catalyst for getting out of the mess that 8 years of W. created. Ironically, Obama wants to help the majority of those here who are negatively attacking him. His tax increase is for the wealthy. Last time I checked, nobody I know makes $250,000 annually. Talk to me in 4 years when you've reaped the benefits of this administration, Mike. "

    Bill Tompkins wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:50 PM:

    " Based on the comments to this article, there is no shortage of angry poorly-educated senior-citizen-aged bigots living here in Sierra Vista. As yesterday's presidential election results indicate: You are quickly becoming irrelevent! "

    Guy Smiley wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:27 PM:

    " The only thing more satisfying than seeing Obama elected President is watching the new Know Nothings weep and gnash their teeth as Karl Rove's pipe-dream of a permanent majority dissolves into ether. Guess what? The American ideal never was synonymous with your self-congratulatory ignorance or xenophobic chest-thumping. If you can't pledge your faith and allegiance to this country now that a politician with whom you disagree stands at the helm, then you were never really a patriot to begin with. Godspeed, President Obama, and God bless America. "

    Tina wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:15 PM:

    " Hey Mike, what a sorry loser you are. Instead of taking it like a man, why do you find it necessary to continue your false and personal attacks against the person who the majority clearly felt was the better choice? If McCain had won, I don't believe you would be seeing your type of response from the opposing party on this message board.
    Better learn to pace yourself, if you are so inclinded to be whining for the next 4 or 8 years. "

    Waiting and Watching wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:04 PM:

    " I moved the bulk of my investments into tax-free entities. If the Dems make good on their tax increases, I will withdraw everything from the stock market and put into tax-free arenas and withdraw a substantial amount of savings from the bank. By reducing my income, I won't pay any increased tax and will probably get a rebate, but at least I'll get to decide which charity to support. It's those who will lose their jobs, or have hours cut to part time, as employers find ways to offset taxes/avoid mandatory health insurance that will suffer. "

    Jack wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:04 PM:

    " Mike, no, he was elected as our new President in spite of being black. His intelligence, judgment, and temperment qualified him and fortunately, enough reasonable people were able to make that distinction. Even if Obama were Muslim, he would be qualified. Ever heard of separation of church and state? I didn't think so.. In your case, ignorance must be bliss. Rest assured that at least Obama won't be attacking the wrong country like G.W. Bush did. "

    Wow.. wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:57 PM:

    " Now i can't believe obama won. I hope he doesn't screw things up, like George bush has. can he fix everything George screwed up in a four year period? Evolution happens in gov't also, haha. Reverend Wright probably has a position waiting for him though, just wait and see! I think Obama will turn this country upsidedown...but that's just me. Hope he doesn't go after my guns and does what he can to fix what's really wrong in America. "

    George wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:54 PM:

    " A lot of sour grapes and whine out there today from Republicans, as expected. The only bad thing is that Obama will have to wait 77 days before he is sworn in. Ideally, G.W. Bush, the phony cowboy, would be given a week to pack up his gear and leave town. It's time for a grown-up and a real leader to occupy the White House after 8 years. "

    To Mike and everyone. wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:53 PM:

    " He IS NOT Muslim. Seriously, can you please stop spewing so called "facts"? They aren't true, he isn't middle eastern. Even if he was, he's a good man. Stop being so racist, and don't be ashamed of your country wanting a change. "

    ridiculous wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:49 PM:

    " You all are so ridiculous. Obama was voted in because the people wanted him in office, not because he is Black. Oh, by the way, his father is Kenyan and his mother is White -- get it right people. What a bunch of morons. Makes me laugh to see how ignorant you all are. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:39 PM:

    " Nobama showed everyone that he lies when he didn't take public funding when he said he would. Apparently the Kool-Aid drinkers didn't catch that. Just wait until he takes office and starts to bow out on all his promises. Hmmmm and the rest of you libs will be screaming at him. I don't even want to hear it because it was your ignorance that put him in office. "

    jg wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:30 PM:

    " nobama,

    No, shame on you for believing false documents. If you have the guts to face the truth here you go: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Step outside of the box, stop fearing change and embrace your new President. Oh, and turn off Fox news. "

    jg wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:28 PM:

    " meinaz wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:53 AM:
    " Obama won. Never in my adult life have I been so ashamed of America. May God have mercy on us for the next four years. "
    No, may God have mercy on you for being such an alarmist and not supporting Obama. God blessed us with the man who will restore our country to greatness. All of you McCain supporters are nothing but fear mongerers. You will all be eating your words by the end of Obama's first term. "

    jg wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:25 PM:

    " notoobama,

    I feel bad for you. You do not seem to grasp the bigger picture. The world is rejoicing in our choice for President. President Obama will strenghten our relationships with other countries. Bush weakened them and McCain would have continued on that course. It is so sad that so many are still so filled with hatred. What experience did Bush bring to the job? Please, do not point out his years as governor. Obama is the change we so richly deserve. "

    jg wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:22 PM:

    " The better man won. President Barack Hussein Obama conducted his campaign professionally. He is dignified, intelligent, honest, and inspirational. My faith is restored in America. We are working to correct the last eight years of mistakes. If only McCain's supporters could be as gracious in defeat as McCain has been. "

    Informed Voter wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:20 PM:

    " Barack Obama is a) a naturally born US citizen who has presented hsi birth certificate to the media about 19 months ago,and b) a Christian, not a Muslim. Please! Stop the hate mongering! "

    I voted for McCain wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:16 PM:

    " ...but I will give my support to the man America voted for. I can be angry and rage against it and be an angry Republican, or I can be a productive American. I hope he keeps us safe...if he can do that for me and my family, I will give him my full support. "

    Bisbee Moron wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:54 AM:

    " Heh, I see "investor" gets his news the same place "Hummm" does. The market is not up...get your facts right. The Dow opened at 9504 (from 9625 from closing yesterday)and was just at 9337. "

    notobama wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:32 AM:

    " The market is down and this country will have a terrible time to live through. Obama already plans to raise taxes to Clinton levels and beyond. Other countries see us as weak. People are already stocking up, buying guns and hiding their money. I see more race problems in the future. But with a black president we should not need affirmative action. It's going to be a long sad 4 years. "

    Mike wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:30 AM:

    " Obama was voted in because he is black not because he is qualifed, he is a first term senator how much experience can he have, the younger generation voted for him the ones that protest against us being in Iraq and want us out and he will cut our military and watch what will happen plus he is MUSLUM who are we fighting DAAAAA, lets see what he does if we are attacked again "

    to meinaz wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:27 AM:

    " i totally agree. i'm so disappointed especially in my generation cause we are mostly to blame for his election. i'm extremely sad about this choice. obama knows nothing about being an AMERICAN. our country's spirit has died a little today. "

    Thank god for OBAMA wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:26 AM:

    " It is obvious the are people who will not be happy but when they realize they are the ones bringing down America such as meinaz and nobama then america will thrive even more. I thank god for allowing this to happen. Obama is openly saying he will need help proving that he is truly a leader who is for the people. I just would like to tell those of you who are angry......Good. "

    Reality wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:41 AM:

    " Before Obama and this Democratic congress gets too overconfident, I hope they will remember that only 4 short years ago the Republicans were boasting in a similar position, firm control of both houses and the presidency. Likewise, in 1992 Bill Clinton was also in this situation and in only 2 short years the republicans took over both houses of congress. If they want to keep things like they are now and not have this just be a flash in the pan, all Democrats WILL have to make a real effort to reach out to conservatives and conservative independants. "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:41 AM:

    " Johnny boy you are correct. The people have spoken and they told you to shut up. They said they are tired of you and your parties misguided ways. They said they have had enough and your party shall now be broken up into bits and pieces. Your hardliners will now side with the more conservative Libertarian Party. The left behinds will reform a new third party. The republicans have been crushed and the ashes spread to the four wins. Good Bye! "

    Brenda wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:33 AM:

    " Obama is NOT black! He is bi-racial. He was raised by a caucasian mother as well as caucasian grandparents! If he had been raised in an all black community he would have been ostracized for being black, believe me, I know this is a fact! "

    Big Problem wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:13 AM:

    " Since their party is going to be ruling the world now, who will liberals be able to blame all the ills of the planet on? What will Keith Olbermann do, go on with his complain about O'reilly show? What on earth will CNN MSNBC, CBS, ABC and NBC do. Without conservatives in power for them to demonize maybe they are really going to have to turn on their prophet and messiah and do... oh no.. FAIR REPORTING?!!? Reporting the bad in Democrats AS WELL as Republicans? My goodness the world really is coming to an end. "

    fomofomojo wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:52 AM:

    " Alright! OBAMA my man! The nation is reborned! Time to celebrate! Meet you all at the Rendezvous! "

    Disrespect not intended wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:38 AM:

    " No disrespect intended but why so much mixed info on who and what this man is?Obama is not black.He's more Arabic than black.But if he's half white anyway why call him something else?Not Christian but Islam?Family history?Flag burnings?Doesn't sound very American most of the time?Change our anthem?Will talk with terrorists?Even if any rumors are true it is very scary that he was voted into office and into a seat of power.God help us! "

    Car wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:46 AM:

    " Bush paved the way for distrust in the Republican Party. MCCain was in the shadow and left people hesistant to be lead into the same path, even though McCain may have served different. "

    cathy wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:40 AM:

    " I have never been more proud to be an American as I am today. I awoke today feeling a strong sense of pride, calm, and singing "Happy Days Are Here Again". I look forward to the many changes that Barack Obama's presidency is going to have, not only on this country but on the whole world too. I am confident that he will put us back on the right track and will give hope and inspiration back to this wonderful country that I call home. "

    Leonidas wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:26 AM:

    " Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,
    Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong.
    O Party of Lenin, the srtength of the people,
    To Communism's triumph lead us on!

    Through tempests the sunrays of freedom have cheered us,
    Along the new path where great Lenin did lead.
    To a righteous cause he raised up the peoples,
    Inspired them to labour and valourous deed.

    In the vict'ry of Communism's deathless ideal,
    We see the future of our dear land.
    And to her fluttering scarlet banner,
    Selflessly true we always shall stand! "

    will he live up wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:11 AM:

    " every one thinks especially the african americans that because he is president he will make a huge change but just because he is black doesn't mean anything, every president has promised change and none have really done that, what makes him so different, NOTHING "

    Ray wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:00 AM:

    " I am impressed with the Obama campaign. I have to say nice job. However, all I know is as soon as he repeals the Bush tax cuts, my taxes go up! So bottom line, he lied about his tax plan! "

    YES wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:51 AM:

    " FABBULOUS-- brings tears to my eyes-- I am so happy that we will be rid of Bush. "

    Margaret wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:34 AM:

    " I am disappointed that Senator McCain chose to run a campaign using fear and hate. I lost so much respect for him when he took that approach. He would have been a hero and a maverick if he would have stuck to his word of a clean campaign, it would have set a fine example and everyone would have gotten behind him. And that precious Meghan, she was truly a dutiful daughter, I wish the best for her. "

    Investor wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:21 AM:

    " Things are better already, the market is up. "

    meinaz wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:53 AM:

    " Obama won. Never in my adult life have I been so ashamed of America. May God have mercy on us for the next four years. "

    nobama wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:51 AM:

    " Shame on the media! There was never any mention of the court cases contesting his citizenship. It's not over yet. Has anyone seen an original (legal) birth certificate? The majority of the public remains in the dark because of your lack of coverage. Check out obamacrimes.com for court documents. We face a "constitutional crisis" and the media is mostly to blame. If Obama would just present his BC, the "rumors" as their called would go away. The media cannot be trusted period, nor the polls. Their liars! "

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