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Latino group chief wants fewer raids during census

By Howard Fischer
Capitol Media Services
Published/Last Modified on Saturday, Oct 18, 2008 - 05:24:57 am MST

PHOENIX — The head of a major Latino rights group wants the next president to appoint a Homeland Security chief who will agree to halt immigration raids during the 2010 Census.

But Gov. Janet Napolitano, who could be that appointee, is on record as opposing such a move.

John Trasviña told the Arizona Latino Research Enterprise Town Hall Friday that getting an accurate count is critical to electing more Hispanics to office. And the president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund said to do that first requires educating the Latino community about the importance of the decennial count.

“We cannot do that as well as we want to until we know the Department of Homeland Security is not going to be out there at the same time the enumerators are out there, knocking on doors, asking for people’s names and who lives at that particular house,” he said.



Trasviña said a proper count of Hispanics, legal and otherwise, will affect how congressional and state legislative districts are drawn for the 2012 elections.

“If we do our job right, we will have a record number of Latinos in Congress, Asian-Americans in Congress,” he said, along with gains in state houses.

In Arizona, he said, counting all those who are not citizens — a figure the Census Bureau most recently estimated at 700,000 out of about 6.4 million residents — could mean the difference between getting just one or two new seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Trasviña said the chief immigration officer in charge in 1990 and again in 2000 agreed to “back off” during the count. But Russ Knocke, press aide to current Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff, said that idea is a non-starter.

“As long as we are around, we won’t halt or even think of letting up our enforcement operations,” he told Capitol Media Services.

Napolitano, when asked about the idea last year, said she sees no need to slow or halt raids.

The governor acknowledged it is important to get an accurate count of everyone here, legal or otherwise, with everything from congressional representation to federal aid tied to those figures. But Napolitano said the question of raids versus a correct count is a “false dichotomy.”

She said the Census Bureau can count heads and then augment those with some of the statistically based methods to go from ‘actual’ count to ‘real’ count.” The governor said federal officials already do that.

“You can’t ever count everybody all the time because people move around,” she said.

Her stance could be more significant than her role as Arizona governor: An early supporter of Democrat Barack Obama, Napolitano has been mentioned as a possible Cabinet pick, including Secretary of Homeland Security or Attorney General.

In his speech Friday, Trasviña had some things he wants from the next president in his pick for that latter post, too.

“We need an Attorney General who will take Latino civil rights seriously,” he said. Trasviña said he wants someone modeled after Robert Kennedy, who held that post in the 1960s during the civil rights era, “to take over from the uncontrollable and the irresponsible Southern sheriffs.”

Trasviña said this is more than a criticism of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio whose department has conducted crime suppression “sweeps” that foes say target anyone who looks Hispanic. He said the federal statute which gave Arpaio’s deputies the right to enforce immigration laws needs to be revisited by Congress.

He said that provision, known as 287-G, has led to racial profiling by other police departments who have received the authorization. Trasviña wants current 287-G agreements suspended — including the one being used by Arpaio — and no new agreements “until we can get some sense out of what’s going on with local law enforcement of the federal immigration laws.”

Trasviña said MALDEF is making this and other demands Obama and Republican John McCain to ensure they do more than pay lip service to Latino interests. He said simply promising to ask Congress to enact an immigration reform bill is not enough.



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    first svian wrote on Oct 22, 2008 7:09 AM:

    " a president who recognizes Latino rights, WHAT????, no no no, we need a president who recognizes AMERICAN rights as spelled out by the AMERICAN constiution for AMERICAN citizens and those LEGALLY here...you don't want to be AMERICAN and become mainstream, go back to Mexico, where of course you have so many rights...illegals should have NO representation...they are invaders!!! "

    Hey Latinos wrote on Oct 19, 2008 7:01 PM:

    " This group is a deteriment to legal Latino's. If the legal ones want respect, they should tell this group where to go. When they support groups such as this they lose. They are one and the same. "

    Langer wrote on Oct 18, 2008 8:57 PM:

    " Round 'em up and head 'em out every day of the week. It stinks that illegal aliens can add another seat in the House. That shouldn't be allowed to happen. But I guess since "our" reps don't even try to represent US it doesn't make a big difference. Vive Arpaio. "

    CGS wrote on Oct 18, 2008 7:07 PM:

    " It's diffucult to justify halting these raids when law enforcement ALWAYS finds safe houses full of illegals. Illegals do not deserve the right to vote, no more than American fugitives have that right in Mexico. "

    Independent wrote on Oct 18, 2008 10:59 AM:

    " Nothing to be afraid of, IF YOU'RE HERE LEGALLY. If you are an illegal alien, adios, bub. MALDEF is an extremist illegal alien protection organization determined to achieve "reconquista". Yes, we took half of Mexico in 1846 (paid something for it too) but look what they did with what we left! I don't see people clammering to migrate TO Mexico, just out of it. Trasvina should move to Mexico to work on Latino civil rights. Good for Joe Arpaio; Sierra Vista Police should emulate him on 287G training. Why don't they? "

    Get a Grip wrote on Oct 18, 2008 7:13 AM:

    " The illegals need to go! They have no right to demand a darned thing. "

    Giuseppi wrote on Oct 18, 2008 6:27 AM:

    " Seems the census should only count legal citizens. Sounds like the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund folks would like nothing better than to pad the figure of how many Hispanics are here by allowing or encourging illegals to flood in and increase the count. How fair is that? Anyone here illegally needs to be deported. Raids 24/7/365 are OK by me...Viva La Migra and ICE "

    Judy Ferguson wrote on Oct 18, 2008 6:24 AM:

    " Maybe the Mexicans just do not get it, but many of us feel like this has become a second slavery in America and we do not like how they are being treated with cheap labor, poor living conditions, no health care that many of the working poor Americans have to pay for. Blacks are not lazy, they just refuse to allow themselves to be reduced to slavery AGAIN! What is wrong with them working their own land with paying the minimun wage? We need to know who is in this Country and I am sick of all "

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