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Wal-Mart plan gets OK from SV panel

By Laura Ory
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Wednesday, Oct 08, 2008 - 05:19:04 am MST

SIERRA VISTA — The city Planning and Zoning Commission on Tuesday voted unanimously in favor of the preliminary subdivision plat for the Wal-Mart Supercenter site.

The site includes five separate parcels over about 45.4 acres at the northwest corner of Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway and the Highway 90 Bypass.

The five parcels include a Wal-Mart Supercenter, a Sam’s Club, a Sam’s Only Gas Lot, a water tank and a separately owned outlot planned for smaller retail development.

Two detention basins also are included on the site, said Don Brush, principal planner for the city.


A part of the preliminary plat for Wal-Mart's planned Supercenter. (Courtesy of the city of Sierra Vista)


Access into the Wal-Mart Supercenter will be provided throughout the site:

• A traffic light and access will be constructed at the Highway 90 Bypass and Campus Drive intersection.

• Right-turn-only access will be included across from the access point of Plaza Vista Mall at the Highway 90 Bypass.

• Access will be available at the signaled intersection across from Lowe’s on Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway.

• A traffic signal will be added at Avenida Escuela, which Wal-Mart will extend to Charleston Wash on the north side of the property.

• Pedestrian access will be available from multi-use paths along Charleston Wash and Highway 90. A sidewalk will be built across the Wal-Mart Supercenter parking lot. Sidewalks also will be constructed along Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway and Avenida Escuela.

The parking lot will have about 1,524 regular parking spaces and 42 handicapped-accessible parking spaces.

During the public comment portion of the meeting, the only comment came from Leonard Colwell, chairman of the Huachuca City Planning and Zoning Commission, who said he didn’t think there were enough handicapped-accessible parking spaces.

“It seems kind of low to me,” Colwell said.

Tina Moore, a city planner, said the Americans with Disabilities Act requires a minimum 2 percent of the total parking to be accessible, and Wal-Mart has exceeded the requirement.

During a Development Review Committee meeting earlier Tuesday, a concern about the signal timing at Campus Drive was raised, Brush said. The signal will be timed before the stores open, he said.

Commission Chairwoman Lillian Seagren also asked why the parking spaces were not planned diagonally.

Diagonal parking would restrict the flow of traffic, said James Dugger, the senior project manager for the site from Pentacor, the site engineer.

Instead, the developers wanted two-way traffic for all the parking aisles. The design also allowed space for the trees throughout the parking lot, Dugger said.

Trees will be planted throughout the parking lot and other landscaping will be added along Highway 90 and Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway.

“When treated effluent is available, Wal-Mart would hook into that,” Brush said.

Commissioner Ken Garland asked where construction access will be. Brush said Avenida Escuela will be the access point into the site for construction.

Garland also asked why Wal-Mart plans to give its portion of Charleston Wash to the city once the site in completed.

“It seems like we get a lot of washes donated to the public,” he said.

The area is in a 100-year floodplain, and the area is not able to be developed, Brush said.

While washes do not provide revenue to the city, they are important for water recharge, said Councilman Rick Mueller.

Seagren said the commission members have spent other work sessions having their questions answered about the site, and they feel confident about it.

Brush said the preliminary site plan will be up for City Council approval at the Oct. 23 meeting. A site plan also will need to be approved by the City Council before construction can begin.

If approved, construction is expected to begin around Christmas time this year and planned to be completed before Christmas 2009, Dugger said.

In other business, the commission approved an address change for four homes to Piccadilly Lane from Piccadilly Drive.

Based on new 911 software, the address was determined to be a conflict because the houses are actually located on Piccadilly Lane. They were mistakenly addressed based on a plat that did not show the continuation of Piccadilly Lane, Moore said.

After the meeting, the commission watched a video about “Visitability” with representatives from the Commission on Disabilities Issues. The video advocated residential building requirements of at least one no-step access into homes and minimum door widths of 32 inches to make homes more accessible for wheelchairs.

The commission said it would support the effort.

Herald/Review reporter Laura Ory can be reached at 515-4683 or by e-mail at laura.ory@svherald.com.



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    To Ret98 wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:39 PM:

    " Next time think things through before posting. Your comment lost it's 'just' somewhere. There will always be someone cheaper. Are you going to drive from SV to Douglas or Sun Sites every time you need gas? Are you only filling your vehicle tank? If you are not purchasing in bulk, your not saving a penny by driving the distance. "

    Dogbert wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:11 PM:

    " Walmart paid its employees minimum wage while keeping Hillary cliinton on a million dollar a year retainer "

    Ret98 wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:08 PM:

    " Sure we'll be saving on gas prices, NOT we all thought that gas city was the savior and found out wrong. Gas is 20 cents cheaper in Douglas and Sun Sites. "

    jack wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:25 AM:

    " People like to pick on Wal Mart but what other business in Sierra Vista has a huge bank of CCTV cameras to promote the safety of its customers? As for wages, it would only be fair to compare with a survey of what other similar businesses pay. "

    Dogbert wrote on Oct 22, 2008 7:00 AM:

    " I'll bet the WALMART in Mazatlan is Unionized too. Most self respecting third world countries, even China, won't let WALMART get away with what they do here. Half of the children of WALMART Employees are on public assistance for meddicazl care, talk about Socialism. "

    SV resident wrote on Oct 22, 2008 6:49 AM:

    " More jobs in an area is always good, but what about making a living wage. Wal-Mart is one of the biggest offenders for taking advantage of it's employees. Why are they afraid of a union? Any time I drive past Wal-Mart the parking lot is always crowded. This store must be makeing a decent profit. I wonder if the pay is higher. Or is it only for the people at the top that are benefitting. I agree Mr. Walton who started Wal-Mart treated his employees with respect and fairness. Looks like a lot of greed at the top. "

    Richard wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:38 PM:

    " Welcome Super Wal-Mart and Samsclub. Thank you for starting the $4 generic drug program. A program that we would not have today if not for Wal-Mart. Other adopted the generic drug program in order to be competitive. When Wal-Mart started the pilot program in the SouthEast one of our local chain pharmacy made the comment that they saw no need for it. The majority of the customers have their drugs paid for by the insurance company. Who pays for the insurance - we do the consumer. Wake-up folks Wal-mart is on our side. "

    Richard wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:18 PM:

    " Is part of the parking covered? With our summer heat shaded parking would an additional incentive to shop at the store. In Mazatlan Mexico the super walmart and Home depot have about 1/3 of the parking spaces under cover. Why not Sierra Vista, AZ. I have pictures of the Mazatlan stores if you wish to see them. "

    To all future employees wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:43 PM:

    " If you don't like the pay scale at Walmart, get a job at Target. Target pays the same, with the same benefits.
    Disgrunted employees would complain about any employer. There will be hundreds applying for the postitions when they start hiring. And, as myself, hundreds shopping there once they open the doors. I can't wait. "

    azdave wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:09 PM:

    " I think it's pretty funny that so many people complain about the bank bailout as being socialist intervention (which of course it is), then also complain about Wal-mart driving smaller, less efficient stores out of business. People vote with their pocket books, and the great majority show up at Wal-mart every day to cast their ballot. If you don't want to shop at Wal-Mart, that's your choice, but you're way out of line if want to prevent others from doing so. "

    WalMart Leadership wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:52 AM:

    " WalMart is a proven leader in low benefits, low pay and outsourcing US jobs to forign countries that pay slave wages. What's not to love, as long as thier passing some of that savings on to me? "

    azdustdevil wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:26 AM:

    " If it weren't for Wal-Mart, some people wouldn't be able to afford things that aren’t considered necessities. When my TV broke, I drove all over looking for a nice TV (nothing fancy): Sears, K-Mart, and Target. Wal-Mart beat them all and has name brand electronics at an affordable price. "

    Winston Smith wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:29 AM:

    " Yes we can compete with North Korean Slave Labor if we just quit whining and accept 50 cents a day. Thank you Phil Gramm "

    Hmmm wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:05 AM:

    " I only hope they can keep this one cleaner and more space between the isles. This ine is disgusting. Will the new place have a better dress code for its emplyees? I hope so. Half of the current Wal Mart employees look like bums. It is a pathetic bunch. "

    To Former Wal-Mart Manager wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:15 AM:

    " If you read what I wrote Wal-Mart will give jobs to the area. And I also am a former employee. What I was stating and stand by is that they pay people what ever they feel. They have also had lawsuits involving how they pay. The 5 stores I have worked at all practiced this. They treat their employees horrible. Mr Walton did not start the store and make it a succes with the way it is run now. He respected the employees and did right by them. "

    Former Wal-Mart Store Manager wrote on Oct 20, 2008 8:54 PM:

    " Say what you want but until Wal-Mart came to this town, openingits doors in October of 1988 (I was associate #7), Sierra Vista was at the hands of every high priced local and chain store that was here. Our town is thriving and continues to grow. Wal-Mart has been a great economic tax surplus for the city and the community. As far as the wages, if you don't like what you are making, work elswhere. As far as the prices, wait and see how much your grocery bill improves when the SuperCenter gets here. "

    Former Wal-Mart employee wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:14 AM:

    " Wal-Mart is reasonable for price and will give more jobs to the area. But, as a former employee I know this much. They are a very poor paying employer. And they pay what ever they feel to their employees. I was acting CSM in Wisconsin, making $7.25hr (3rd shift). Training someone with no prior experience making $9.00 hr. This is why Wal-Mart won't allow a union. They would have to be fair to their employees. Think about it, why do you think their prices are low. "

    Competitive Pricing wrote on Oct 19, 2008 9:56 PM:

    " Well if you can't compete, leave the field! This day and age it is about getting more for your buck and saving money. The locals that aren't trying to rip people off and make HUGE profits will be just fine. It's the other ones that are complaining. No more high life for you! We have had our business for 15yrs and doing just fine. Our competitors are sinking and sinking fast thanks to their greed. "We look forward to serving you." "

    Go TEAM wrote on Oct 19, 2008 9:48 PM:

    " We welcome the new Walmart and Sams Club. We currently drive to Benson once a month to do all of our shopping in one spot at one time. We will be thankful to have a 24hr grocery store once again since me and my wife work at night we will once again be able to shop anytime we want. Thank You & Welcome! "

    jack wrote on Oct 19, 2008 9:14 AM:

    " I shop a number of local stores and by far the cleanest restrooms are Wal Mart. Considering the amount of traffic they have, this is amazing! As for service, for me, Wal Mart has always pleased. I've had bad experiences at Ace and other local stores. It's my observation that Wal Mart has set the standard for service and as a business model. "

    did I miss it wrote on Oct 19, 2008 7:47 AM:

    " What happens to the old big box store? "

    Arthur Dent wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:35 PM:

    " It's not me your hurting it's America.
    Save your nickel "

    To Arthur Dent wrote on Oct 14, 2008 2:45 PM:

    " Good! You don't have to shop Wal-Mart. Everyone else will. Please know that you're nothing but one drop of water in the ocean!! "

    Arthur Dent wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:12 PM:

    " I don't care if it's clean or if it's prices are cheap. WALMART has done more harm to America than Osama could ever dream of. Hundreds of factories closed, thousands of small businesses driven out of business. The Taxpayer gets to pay the medical bills of it's employees.
    Half of the ten richest people in America are Waltons. I wouldn't go there if they were giving it away "

    Business savy wrote on Oct 12, 2008 1:41 PM:

    " I never said anything about the "staff", I mentioned the management team. The staff can only be as good as the managers they work for. As usual, comments are are twisted to fit your needs. When one does not know the entire flow of products from point A to point B it is hard to understand the effects of cost and demand. Be it Wal-mart or any other business, an individual has the right to shop where they please. My priorities are sanitation, customer service and correst pricing, & that doesn't happen at this Walmart. "

    To business savy wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:51 AM:

    " You sound more like a disgruntled ex-employee. Seems like you need more classroom time in sociology. I hope that management focuses on adequate stock in all departments so that the new store will be worth shopping. As long as one can make a decent and honest living it doesn't matter wether you have a degree or not. I wonder what business "business savy" is in perhaps "monkey business" Get over yourself and support your community or you are more than welcome to go somewhere else. Life educated, no degree required and college educated, BS Psy. Let's get on with it. "

    Mrs. Clean wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:21 PM:

    " I just hope they actually clean the new Wal-Mart regularly. I've only been to the current one twice in a years time. The floors were so dirty and the carpet was stained, and there was trash scattered about...just filthy! I will probably shop at the Super Wal-Mart until it gets all nasty like the one now, which won't take long if they have the same people in charge. On a side note, I'm actually excited for the Sams Club! "

    To Business savy wrote on Oct 9, 2008 6:56 AM:

    " You sure have your head in the clouds, (or somewhere else) chastisizing everyone else on here. At the same time leaving an assine comment about the staff of Walmart being a joke. And you think that was an educated comment? "

    CGS wrote on Oct 9, 2008 5:51 AM:

    " Supporting small businesses is fine, but when you have to drive all over town to shop, that defeats the purpose. Driving around wastes gas. Items are not always in stock and most shops here don't stay open late for those of us who work into the evening and do their shopping before going home. I shop at WalMart for the basics like some pet foods (Maxxim) and basic garden supplies, but prefer ACE and other more consumer-friendly places for the homeowner. For clothes I shop at Ross. "

    Sam I Am wrote on Oct 8, 2008 10:35 PM:

    " WalMart has done more harm to America than Osama ever dreamed of. Empty factories and empty downtowns all from thier predatory practices. "

    Business savy wrote on Oct 8, 2008 9:25 PM:

    " It doesn't matter whether Wal-mart remains the same or expands. If they keep the same management staff it will remain a joke. Each of us has the opportunity to shop where we want, why continue to argue about something that is going to happen anyway. If the authors of most of these posts had any business experience, they wouldn't even bother with these commets. When you have a business degree and hands on experience, then come back and express yourselves in an educated way. "

    curious wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:57 PM:

    " So what if the small stores go out of business. They have sucked on the community long enough. Get over it. Start a new business of may move to another town. "

    To Dian wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:15 PM:

    " Walmart doesn't hurt the "good" local businesses. I doubt that it will affect ACE Hardward on iota, just as Lowes didn't. I hope to the high heavens that they affect the local grocery stores, that aren't locally owned. Safeway nationally is having a hard time. I hope they survive, as if they don't we will only have lil Mexico, and Frys left. "

    RYAN wrote on Oct 8, 2008 6:22 PM:

    " Well Dian, Wal-Mart is excellent for everyone as it creates competition, which benefits, you, the consumer. It forces other businesses to lower prices or go out of business, which is how a free market economy should work. This town is full of too many short sited people like you, which is the problem. Shop in Naco if you like. "

    anon wrote on Oct 8, 2008 5:09 PM:

    " Im looking forward to having a sams club. Costco is too far. Saving money is important these days. "

    Deb wrote on Oct 8, 2008 4:12 PM:

    " I think it's great! More opportunities for employment and more places to shop. Saving money on gas to Tuscon is also a plus. I hope they bring in better clothes shops and better restaurants. SV is boring and we need to spice this town up. "

    TO dian wrote on Oct 8, 2008 4:07 PM:

    " AMEN! I also do not support Walmart in any way, shape, or fashion. They will do nothing except run the smaller local businesses out of business. The local businesses give back to the community because they come from the community. Walmart is just a big money sucking corporation who makes big noise about the 'giving back' to the community as a smoke screen because they don't care about the local community. Don't believe it? Watch and see! "

    Mike wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:57 PM:

    " Dian, thats a great theory, but most people cant afford to buy from the small stores, they cant compete. If a family of four needs food, clothes whatever, Im buying the cheapest I can find.Its not like this "small Town" is paying like Tucson. "

    erik wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:55 PM:

    " Walmart Supercenter will stimulate competition and the prices of goods will be reasonable. Stores will have to lower prices and compete if they want to survive. Its a very good thing for average consumers. Walmart does not always get what they want. It is a mountain of headache they face when they decide to open a store. It takes on average of 2-5 years to open a store (due to politics). Walmart will boost area's economy and make it grow. Thank you Walmart. "

    nick wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:41 PM:

    " i love it...keep the growth coming! I moved here because i knew this area was going to grow...it just took 6 years. "

    Doc Holiday wrote on Oct 8, 2008 2:04 PM:

    " It's about time that a big company like WalMart comes in. Maybe if we are lucky, it will shut down some of the pathetic local businesses who have crappy stock and the worst customer service in Arizona. Good ridance. BTW, Tucson is not a bad place. Get over yourselves. "

    Dian Youre Alone wrote on Oct 8, 2008 12:07 PM:

    " Walmart Supercenter in our community will NOT undermine all other businesses. And if it did, who cares? I, like the majority of Sierra Vistans, welcome Walmart competition. Maybe now those other businesses will stop (over) charging us an arm and leg!! Welcome, Walmart, welcome, welcome, welcome!! "

    Wallyworld wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:40 AM:

    " What, is the Walmart we have now not big enough? Has it not taken over enough of the surrounding businesses? "

    zippy wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:37 AM:

    " if you don't like wal mart move to sunsites... "

    Becky wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:29 AM:

    " I can't wait to have a Sam's Club! I'll save gas money since I won't have to go to Tucson. "

    Geez wrote on Oct 8, 2008 11:08 AM:

    " Here it comes! Everyone is going to claim that Wal-Mart is going to "undermine all other businesses." Come on! If that's true, who's fault is it? Is it Wal-Mart's because they offer discounted prices or is it the people who choose to shop there because they're tired of paying extremely inflated prices at other places? If you provide good enough service, big box stores shouldn't pose a problem, ask Ace! "

    diffrent opinion wrote on Oct 8, 2008 10:49 AM:

    " I see this as keeping my money in Sierra Vista,as I travel to Tucson to go to Costco. I go to other stores while I am in Tucson to do clothes and gift shopping which now will be re-directed back to Sierra Vista. This is a great thing for the area and the economy for S.V. in the long run. I have to stretch my dollar, and with the superstore, gas station, and Sam's Club I might be able to make ends meet a little easier! Way to go P&Z Commish. "

    shop local wrote on Oct 8, 2008 10:02 AM:

    " i would like to buy local, but I can't tell you how many times I go to the store and they don't have what I want so I am forced to go to Tucson. so as much as i don't like wal mart maybe i'll be able to buy the things that i need here.. "

    Chris S. wrote on Oct 8, 2008 9:39 AM:

    " And do you forget that we already HAVE a Walmart? This is just expanding what we already have into a new building and adding services that SOME people may prefer such as buying some grocery items while they buy their clothing. One stop shopping versus having to drive all over town wasting gas. It's the year 2008, get your head out of the past. "

    Chris wrote on Oct 8, 2008 9:37 AM:

    " And that attitude is exactly why Sierra Vista will die if the fort were to ever shut down, Dian. Sierra Vista will continue to grow, like it or not. That provides more jobs in the area, more revenue for the city and a larger store for half of Mexico to come to during their shopping trips. "

    Whatever wrote on Oct 8, 2008 9:17 AM:

    " The economy is not doing so well in this day of age, and if WalMart is going to let many people save money on food and necessities, let them do it! It will make the other grocery stores realize that they need to lower their prices in order to compete! Exactly what Fry's and Safeway needs! "

    Owell wrote on Oct 8, 2008 8:56 AM:

    " Are you saying that our grocery stores are "locally owned"? Hello...if other local merchants here offered quality goods at fair prices, we wouldn't need big box stores. That is just the nature of the beast. I worked for Walmart for 8 years and believe that they are a bane to our society, but it is what it is. Get over it. "

    dian wrote on Oct 8, 2008 8:11 AM:

    " No matter what Wal mart always gets what they want. Allowing this size of a business in our community will undermine all other businesses. I like the smaller town atmosphere of Sierra Vista. Going going gone. What is next? Make Sierra Vista a Tuscon! I personally do not do my purchasing from Wal mart. I use all three of our grocery stores and small businesses.Support your local merchant is my motto. "

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