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ELECTION 2008: Sheriff’s candidates see need for change, but different paths to it

By Jonathon Shacat
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Wednesday, Oct 01, 2008 - 05:18:56 am MST

BISBEE — Incumbent Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever and challenger Norman Bradley agree that changes need to be made to the Sheriff’s Office, but they disagree on what types of changes are necessary.

Dever, 56, pointed out that nearly three years ago his office submitted a strategic plan to the Board of Supervisors covering subjects such as increased staffing, improved compensation, expansion of law enforcement resources and a broader scope of directed activity throughout the county.

He said the Sheriff’s Office needs improved and enhanced staffing and additional resources. During his three terms as sheriff, his office has brought in more than $22 million in grants, and he intends to continue to seek that funding. He said law enforcement is “a dynamic business,” adding the objectives and goals remain constant, but the methodology adjusts and reflects the changes in available resources, such as grants and strategies.

Bradley, 65, said he wants the Sheriff’s Office to be “a full-service organization.” He intends to provide the same level of protection and support to the rural communities as currently is provided to the fringe areas of the metropolitan areas.




He explained that thefts, assaults and burglaries are common in metropolitan communities. In rural areas, on the other hand, the crimes are more property-related, such as theft of metals, farm implements, irrigation equipment and tools. He thinks deputies need training on how to handle investigations of those crimes.

Bradley also proposes getting deputies “refresher” training on dealing with topics such as evidence collection and preservation, photography, follow-up skills, homicides and explosives ordinances. He suggested setting up a cross-training program with Pima County Sheriff’s Office or Tucson Police Department.

He also stressed the need to simultaneously work to change the attitude of members of the public and personnel in the Sheriff’s Office. He said many residents have “distrust” and “apathy” regarding the department’s capability. Leadership mentoring would help deputies understand that they are supported when doing their duties.

Dever said his office works with the U.S. Border Patrol regarding the issues of illegal immigration and smuggling. Federal agents also continue to be assigned to the drug task force to work on tactical and strategic law enforcement efforts, as well as intelligence sharing.

The Cochise County Sheriff’s Office was recently awarded more than $470,000 through the Stonegarden initiative, Dever said. The money, which should be released in October, is designated for work with Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement to reduce and mitigate the effects of illegal immigration in Cochise County.

“We were the largest recipient of everybody included in this in the state of Arizona in terms of the money award,” he said. “That would not have happened if we could not demonstrate that we have a plan and we have a process in place to continue our efforts in working closely with the federal agencies for that purpose.”

Bradley said the role and responsibility of the border belongs to U.S. Border Patrol. He thinks the county needs to work better with that agency. He said agents and deputies get along well at the field level, but there is less interest at the management level.

He proposed creating interagency agreements between the Border Patrol and Sheriff’s Office that identify how officials can work together. He said deputies can offer agents help with intelligence and geographical knowledge, as well as support by responding to scenes. In turn, the Border Patrol can help the Sheriff’s Office by communicating information, such as observations of the transport of stolen vehicles to Mexico, or the locations of checkpoints so deputies can monitor the peripheral areas for illegal activity like trespassing.

In early September, Dever beat challenger Bill Cloud in the Republican primary. Bradley, a Democrat, ran unopposed in the primary.

The general election will be held Nov. 4.

Herald/Review reporter Jonathon Shacat can be reached at 515-4693 or by e-mail at jonathon.shacat@bisbeereview.net.




Norman “Norm” K. Bradley

Sheriff candidate, Democrat

Age: 65

• How long have you lived in the area: Resident of Benson, zip code area 85602. Resident of the area for 18 years.

• Family: Wife, Joyce; three children.

• Education: Attended Mesa Community College and did correspondence courses with the University of Maryland for the equivalent of two years.

• Employment history: Since July 2004, he has provided homeland defense and security management and operational consulting services; from January 2001 to July 2004 he was director of National Counter Drug Center; from January 1997 to January 2001 he served as undersheriff of Cochise County Sheriff’s Office; from January 1995 to January 1997 he provided management and operational consulting services to foreign, federal, state, county and city law enforcement agencies; from January 1993 to January 1995 he was staff director for U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; from 1979 to 1992 he held several positions with U.S. Customs Service-Department of Treasury; from 1975 to 1979 he was an Arizona Department of Public Safety highway patrolman; and from 1970 to 1972 he was a resident deputy for Yavapai County Sheriff’s Department.

• Military service: Served eight years active duty in the U.S. Air Force, two years in Arizona Air National Guard, and two years in Arizona Army National Guard.

• Community affiliations: International Associations of Chiefs of Police, Airborne Law Enforcement Officer Association, Fraternal Order of Police, Air Smuggling Investigator’s Association.

• Previous offices held: None, but previously ran for Cochise County sheriff in 2004.

• Contact: Phone: (520) 586-9685, Web site: bradleyforsheriff2008.com.

Why are you running for sheriff?

According to news reports, the state is going to double in population in the next 25 to 30 years. We need vision-minded leaders who have the experience to be able to lead the county into the future. Because of my years of experience in executive leadership, I know how to lead the sheriff’s department into the future and improve our quality of life and that of our children and grandchildren.

I believe the sheriff has a profound impact on the quality of life that we as citizens should be enjoying. Over the last eight years I have seen a severe decline in the moral of deputies and their ability to adequately respond to the needs of citizens due to lack of training and sufficient personnel assigned to outlying areas. This led to a kidnapping and assault of a woman in her home because of 24 to 48 hours response times. With 35 years of law enforcement experience, which includes 18 years in executive positions, I find this unacceptable. I will make the necessary changes to accomplish effective management of the department’s resources and personnel. My experience will not only allow me to deal with current challenges but gives me the ability to lay a foundation for our future.

How would you effectively use manpower to cover the county?

The current districts are set up primarily for administrative purposes, not for operational requirements. The support of these administrative changes required additional lieutenants and sergeants beyond those required for operations. This equates to 23 percent of sworn personnel in the department falling into management and supervisory rolls.

The focus of the department needs to be returned to an operational driven philosophy. The number of districts needs to be reduced and realigned to mirror the districts served by the Board of Supervisors. Supervisors and Command staff requirements will be reduced and those positions will be returned to operational field positions.

I will review the actual call load for all areas to determine manpower allocations throughout the county. This will be based on each areas requirements rather than on politics.

Interagency agreements that fund deputy positions such as Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Forest Services, Border Alliance Group and Gang Unit need to be revisited with and eye toward expansion.

Special grant programs like Stonegarden, which pays for deputy’s overtime, must be actively pursued with vigor and not just because of political pressure in an election year.

How would you work to supplement the budget for the department?

I have already demonstrated my ability to secure additional funding when I was undersheriff of Cochise County. I brought in the funding for 17 new positions from COPS grants, which is a federal program. Even though the funding was available through the grant, the current sheriff failed to fill seven of the 17 positions. I secured an additional $750,000 of extra funding through High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area program. This money was secured with the cooperation and assistance of Congressman Jim Kolbe. I have worked with other senators and representatives on initiatives for Cochise County. I secured more than $1 million in high-tech computers, furniture and other equipment, which was offered to the current sheriff, at no cost to the county, and could have been given to any Cochise County agency, but he chose to turn it down. Other county sheriffs in Arizona readily accepted the offer, as did the Arizona Department of Public Safety. I still have the connections and ability to bring additional funds and equipment into Cochise County.

What is your position on the following issues: illegal immigration, gangs and illegal drugs?

I recognize the importance for cooperation and interoperability of all agencies involved in illegal immigration, gangs and illegal drugs. I will initiate and/or attend meetings to improve communications and interoperability with all agencies.

Illegal immigration is the primary responsibility of the U.S. Border Patrol. I will work with them to secure our border. Under my leadership deputies will be required to respond to the needs of our citizens when their property and safety is threatened. I will eliminate the current policy of transferring calls to the Border Patrol and ensure deputies respond.

• Gangs: There is a need for gang enforcement in our county. I will ensure deputies are trained to recognize and identify gang members and their illegal activities. We will also work with other agencies to ensure the safety of our citizens.

• Illegal drugs: Cochise County is the No. 1 methamphetamine county in the state due to the sheriff’s stated policy of not finding and dismantling labs because it is too costly for the county. However, I am well aware that funds are available through DEA for the dismantling and clean up of lab sites. I also will send employees to become lab certified, which has not been done in the past 12 years. By finding and dismantling labs, we will remove the open invitation to set up meth lab operations in our county.

As your sheriff I will revitalize the effectiveness of the Border Alliance Group, which has steadily declined over the past eight years. This is a multi-agency narcotics organization led by the sheriff. I will work to include agencies that have withdrawn their officers because of the group’s ineffectiveness.

How do you propose dealing with tracking sexual predators and domestic violence intervention?

The county has a complete tracking system already in place. But with lack of proper training and emphasis, I believe it has become less than adequate. With refocused training and priority, I will ensure the tracking system is 100 percent effective so that children and adults in our county will be safer than they are today.

I believe that intervention in domestic violence begins with proper training in behavioral health sciences. I will take advantage of the training that has been offered. People within the behavioral health science field have informed me that they have observed a need for this training and it has been offered free of charge. The current sheriff has not seen the need for this training. Under my leadership, all deputies will be trained to ensure their safety as well as the safety of those with whom they come in contact. We all know domestic violence is a serious situation that needs to be addressed.

What are your goals if elected as sheriff?

I will proactively work to improve the quality of life for all citizens in Cochise County. I will begin by evaluating the skills and abilities of every employee in the Sheriff’s Office. By doing this, I will be able to determine the training needs within the department and where resources can best be allocated.

Contrary to current practice, I will restore the merit system so that deputies are promoted on demonstrated knowledge, skills and abilities and by numerical ranking based on their scores (not by the good ole boy’s system).

I will immediately work with the Board of Supervisors for the expansion of the current jail, which was built 20 years ago and does not meet current needs. I have already spoken to federal agencies that are willing to help with the expansion.

Because of my executive leadership experience as the director of a national drug interdiction program, I know how to develop interoperability between the law enforcement agencies maximizing the fight against illegal immigration, gangs and drugs in our county.

Long range planning is necessary for our quality of life and preparation for our growth. To see more of my background and plans go to bradleyforsheriff2008.com.




Larry Dever

Sheriff candidate, Republican

Incumbent

• Age: 56

• How long have you lived in the area: Resident of St. David for entire life, except for college

• Family: Wife, Nancy; six children

• Education: Attended University of Arizona, Brigham Young University and San Diego State with emphasis on English and criminal justice.

• Employment history: Currently is sheriff, serving in third term; previously was a deputy sheriff for 20 years.

• Community affiliations: National Sheriff’s Association Board of Directors, Legislative Affairs Committee, chairman, Immigration Subcommittee; Arizona Sheriff’s Association, past president; Western States Sheriff’s Association member; International Association of Chiefs of Police member; National Association of Search and Rescue member; Republican Party, Arizona, member; National Rifle Association member; Rotary International, Sierra Vista Noon Club; Greater Sierra Vista Area Chamber of Commerce; Arizona Peace Officers Memorial Board member; Arizona High Intensity Drug Trafficking Executive Committee member; Southwest Border Sheriff’s Coalition, secretary; Boy Scouts of America, counselor.

• Previous offices held: Sheriff

• Contact: Phone: (520) 720-4469, Web site: www.sheriffdever2008.com, and e-mail: larryadever@msn.com

Why are you running for sheriff?

I have served the people of Cochise County as a law enforcement officer for 32 years, 12 as their sheriff. I have the knowledge, experience and vision to continue to carry forward as its chief law enforcement officer, helping to preserve the peace and provide for the security and welfare of our citizens. I know how to get it done and have demonstrated such over the past 32 years. And frankly, I’m just not through yet. Compare my qualifications and vision with the other candidates. You will find no comparison.

How would you effectively use manpower to cover the county?

While we continue to be understaffed, the technological and interoperability advances we have made over the past 12 years have vastly enhanced our response capability. I will continue to seek funding to add critically needed resources to bolster the number of boots on the ground and to reduce and simplify administrative responsibilities of field personnel. This is a huge county and we have been on a course that amplifies our limited resources and will continue to do so. Continued growth of volunteers, such as our Sheriff’s Assist Team will be vital to enabling deputies to be more readily available and strategically deployed.

 The recent acquisition of mobile data computers in our patrol vehicles has effectively resulted in a manpower increase by decreasing the amount of time our deputies have to spend going to the stations to access information and to write reports. Deputies can now write reports in the field, as well as access an assortment of databases from their vehicle to enable them to be both more efficient and more effective.

How would you work to supplement the budget for the department?

Under my administration, we have brought more that $22 million into the county coffers to supplement and support our law enforcement efforts. I will continue to aggressively leverage my experience and contacts to seek additional funds, as necessary. A very recent example is a grant that we have received, courtesy of the 100 Club, for $20,000 earmarked for the purchase of additional Tasers.

These funds will allow the county to spend their $20,000 elsewhere while the Sheriff’s Office continues to receive the equipment and tools that we need. With continued calls for budget reduction from the state and county, fiscal responsibility and budget control and creativity are a must, something I have proven to do effectively during my years in office and will continue to do.

What is your position on the following issues: illegal immigration, gangs and illegal drugs?

Everyone who breaks the law should be held accountable. Until the federal government fulfills its responsibility to secure our borders, Cochise County residents will continue to suffer the consequences. My deputies will continue to work aggressively with our federal partners to locate illegals and to identify smugglers to see that they are prosecuted. I will continue to leverage my influence as member of the National Sheriff’s Association Board of Directors to pressure Congress for changes in policies and funding that will improve current conditions. Also, as chair of the Immigration Subcommittee, I will continue the practice of bringing decision makers to the “front” for a first hand experience and to offer testimony before Congress regarding the issues.

Gangs: We have a deputy assigned to the gang task force and have a grant for “Safe Streets” that both work diligently in gang activity abatement. Methamphetamine addiction is rampant. Three years age, we retooled our drug task force to concentrate on meth and have seen significant success. This battle is far from won and we’ll continue to partner with our federal counterparts to eradicate this problem. We will continue to support rural schools in the county with specific gang/drug problems and be proactive in addressing these issues.

How do you propose dealing with tracking sexual predators and domestic violence intervention?

We have a full-blown sexual predator tracking process in place. It is aggressive and effective in identifying, locating and registering sexual predators. As required by law we then use our Sheriff’s Assist Team to post and notify communities of their presence. This is another valuable resource brought to the citizens of Cochise County through grant funding. Ensuring that neighborhoods are informed of the presence of sex offenders in the area, in accordance with the law, can only serve to keep our communities safer.

Domestic violence events almost always have roots in social breakdown. Substance abuse is the most common cause and law enforcement clearly has a role to play in prevention by working to control illegal substance distribution. Our primary efforts in this arena, however, have been and will continue to be to work with the many social skills and abuse education agencies and groups around the county. These seem to be the most effective in violence prevention. Also, facilitating sanctuary and support for victims is an important role we play in consequence mitigation.

What are your goals if elected as sheriff?

One, to continue to pursue resolution of the border situation. I have worked tirelessly on this mess for the past 10 years. While we have seen significant progress, there is yet much to be done on the ground and in the political arena.

Second, reign in the out of control methamphetamine problem. This bane of society must be attacked at many levels, law enforcement being one. We’ll continue to work with health, education and social entities to mitigate its effects.

Third, be fiscally responsible as a steward of taxpayers money while still accomplishing our mission. We face difficult economic challenges, not for the first time. My management and leadership experience will help us work through this.

Fourth, continue to work to recruit and retain quality personnel. Technology is a great force multiplier, but nothing can substitute for highly trained, motivated and experienced employees.

Fifth, provide 24/7 active patrol deployment countywide, reduce response time in rural locations and maintain the quality of life our citizens deserve and expect. I have identified the five issues that I believe are most crucial to the welfare of our community. They are posted on my Web site at www.sheriffdever2008.com, and I welcome your questions and comments.



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    Wondering wrote on Oct 15, 2008 5:11 PM:

    " News of another federal subpoena served on a former County employee. Where will it stop? And stop to think people, if the DEA is free to talk with a reporter on the record it would mean our Sheriff can talk a bit too. But all he says is no one gave him any proof. Does this mean possible crime victims in Cochise Counny must now do their own investigations before calling 911? "

    Independent wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:30 PM:

    " OK, and thanks but "SV is his base" doesn't tell me enough. Do they like his white hat, or what? What does he do for Sierra Vistans that results in this support? And anyone know anything about his "Strategic Plan" and the "80% accomplishments"? And thanks . . . "

    To No More wrote on Oct 14, 2008 4:07 AM:

    " Well said! Dever is an icon of status quo. Nothing chnages for the better with him. Things have just been moving along. It is time to shock the system with fresh blood. Dever looses my vote this year too. "

    SV COVERAGE wrote on Oct 13, 2008 10:43 PM:

    " Sierra Vista requires 24/7 because that is where his political base is. The rest of the county can and has been fending for itself. Repsonse times of 24-72 hours are normal. "

    Independent wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:41 PM:

    " Why would SV require 24/7 coverage? Some of you sound more knowledgeable than Dever, so please share. Thanks. "

    Dever is learning wrote on Oct 12, 2008 6:32 PM:

    " Since the article has been published in the Benson paper Dever is learning, how to tap dance. "

    Registered wrote on Oct 12, 2008 12:40 PM:

    " I voted for Bill Cloud and now I'll vote for Norm Bradley. And I'm a registered Republican. "

    Joe A wrote on Oct 11, 2008 7:48 PM:

    " might I point your attention to here:
    http://www.bensonnews-sun.com/articles/2008/10/09/news/news03.txt
    here:
    http://www.thedalleschronicle.com/news/2008/09/news09-19-08-01.shtml
    and here:
    http://www.thedalleschronicle.com/news/2008/10/news10-12-08-02.shtml "

    Reading wrote on Oct 11, 2008 8:43 AM:

    " If you look at the goals for the current sheriff they are the same for the past 12 years. If he can't get it done in 12 years why should I think he can get it done in another four. Enough is enough give someone else the position. "

    Looking for answers wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:16 PM:

    " Looking at the web sites for both these gentlemen is eye opening. The democrat has a far wider range of experience and a military background and is along the same line as Arpaio and Dupnick both of whom are well known and respected. Reading the republicans 32 years while commendable does not say he has executive experience needed to deal with other agencies. If we are the #1 county for meth that has come under his watch. We didn't have it with Judd or Pintek regardless if we like them or not. "

    Benson Reader wrote on Oct 9, 2008 9:04 AM:

    " If the article in this paper is true, and I have no doubt that it is, our sheriff has failed in his duties. The DEA came to him in Oct 07 to ask for assistance he agreed. All well and good. But the article and information provided stated he knew About problems with the jail commander in 2005 and perhaps 2004. That is two years he did not take any action except promote the guy. Time for change. Perhaps this paper will also run the article. "

    Isms wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:41 PM:

    " Did ask and he did not say he would end 24/7 in Sierra Vista. he will keep other areas manned and not allow coverage to go to nothing in the out lying areas as the current sheriff has. He can not deny response times of 24 - 72 hours in the areas of Willcox, Bowie, San Simon,, kansas Settlement, Pearce and Sunsites. Ask him. He has already admitted it happens. The only doouble talk is you trying to cover for the sheriff. "

    No more wrote on Oct 8, 2008 3:53 PM:

    " After reading the article in the Benson paper it is very evident this sheriff has way over stepped the bounds of law enforcement. How can any sheriff not know for two years what his top commander was involved in? It had to be DEA that told him. Enough of the more to come talk. Enough, I lead the fight on drugs. He couldn't find it within his own agency and fire the guy before the feds stepped in. The democrat will get my vote. "

    Dever for Sheriff wrote on Oct 8, 2008 12:22 PM:

    " The article points out that Sheriff Dever has conducted himself in a highly professional manner under extremely difficult circumstances. During a highly confidential investigation he has had to remain silent while Bradley has publicly perpetuated some very nasty innuendo and half-truths. Not to mention the possibility that Bradley's actions may well have compromised a very serious Federal investigation. Voters should ask Bradley why he politicized this matter even as it was an ongoing investigation and the investigating agencies were trying to keep it quiet? Not what you'd expect from someone that wants to be Sheriff. "

    Baradleyisms wrote on Oct 8, 2008 10:03 AM:

    " Thats the problem with liberal Democrats - they refuse to aknowldge the truth even when it is right in fornt of their eyes. Ask the Democrat candidate - he cannot deny that he said that he would end 24/7 coverage in Sierra Vista. He is trying to play rural Cochise County off against Sierra Vista and the other population centers. The voters saw through this doubletalk by a huge margin in 2004 and they are even more wise to his politics today. "

    Old Timer wrote on Oct 8, 2008 8:10 AM:

    " Old Marine - get a copy of our Benson Paper. i think you can see it on line at bensonnews-sun.com. We need a new sheriff. This one needs DEA to tell him what is going on in his own agency. "

    Wondering wrote on Oct 7, 2008 10:59 PM:

    " Bradleyisms where is this information that Bradley would end 24/7 in SV? I'd sure like to read it. I can't find it anywhere. I've never heard him say it at any forum and no newspaper article has it. Are we to beleive this because you say so? Tell us where the proof is so that all of us may see. I looked on his web page also and there is nothing there. "

    Isms wrote on Oct 7, 2008 10:50 PM:

    " Just because the current sheriff transfers people does not mean Bradley will. Two to five vacancies in SV does not necessitate the end of 24/7. Two to five vacancies in same outlying area menas no coverage and response times of 24-72 hoours. How is that fair? Get your facts straight that doesn't mean from the sheriff. "

    Bradleyisms 2 wrote on Oct 7, 2008 5:28 PM:

    " From Bradley's own words direct to you - "...deputies are transferred to SV when there are openings so that a 24/7 coverage can continue at the expense of the rest of the county. This practice would immediately come to an end under Norm and appropriate steps taken to ensure every area has the man power for appropriate coverage even if this means stopping 24/7 coverage...." So I guess fair is fair - if the good folks out in Tullyville don't get 24/7 coverage then by golly neither will Sierra Vista. "

    Heard enough wrote on Oct 7, 2008 2:51 PM:

    " Time to change my vote to the democrat. Voted for our republican sheriff in the past but not now. Too many things going on here for there not to be truth that Dever is failing. I did talk to someone at the Elfrida forum. The sheriff did state he would not take down a lab. Enough for me. His words now ring very hollow. "

    Double talk wrote on Oct 7, 2008 2:13 PM:

    " I will lead the fight against the bane of our society... but I won't bust meth labs..... I lead the fight on illegal immigration...but call the Border Patrol. We work closely with BP .. but can't assist them when they call we do not have the overtime. All comments and current stance of none other than.............DEVER. "

    Isms wrote on Oct 7, 2008 2:02 PM:

    " Show me one place where Bradley has ever stated he would stop 24/7 in Sierra Vista!!! You can't because he won't. Command staff, commanders and above are appointed, the same as the sheriff did. Merit Rules cover promotions to sgt and Lt which the sheriff has constantly violated by having and openended list and not a scored list. Bradley got more positions for the SO what are youtalking about. The sheriff has gotten? Like zero and blames the BOS. Let's tell the truth here. Fact:The sheriff has not asked for pay raises for deputies the last 2 years. "

    Bradleyisms wrote on Oct 7, 2008 12:53 PM:

    " Will stop 24/7 coverage for the Sierra Vista area until the entire county can be covered 24/7. Criticizes the Sheriff for asking for more positions and then states that more positions are the key to getting 24/7 coverage. Says promotions should be based on merit then says that ...He has quality personnel he can hire to ensure peek performance by command staff. Doubletalk. "

    Concerned Citizen wrote on Oct 7, 2008 9:13 AM:

    " I'm disgusted that you would blame the Sheriff's office and the Border Patrol for this horrendous crime. Put the blame where it belongs -on the criminal that committed the crime. "

    Bradley Supporter wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:09 PM:

    " Vote for Dever - No response to earliear calls of burglaries led to a woman being kidnapped and assaulted in her home in the Pearce/Sunsites area. All this sheriff did was say I'm sorry but the actions remained the same - no response to calls - call the Border Patrol. Check the facts you will find this very accurate. I can not say the same about your comments which are blatantly untrue. Wondering was right. "

    Wondering wrote on Oct 6, 2008 10:29 PM:

    " Vote for - No where has Bradley stated he will move resources from where they are needed. He will move them to where they are needed. No one should have to wait 24 -72 hours for a deputy to show up but it is happeniing. If you have read and listenened to him you would know he plans on cutting admin positions and put more deputies on the street. How is that taking them away from anything but the golf course? "

    Wondering wrote on Oct 6, 2008 10:24 PM:

    " Vote for Dever - it is very apparent you have not been on Bradley's web site which tells you exactly what he will change and why. I didn't see anywhere where he wants to change attitudes or refresher training. Stolen shovels water sprinklers where have you read this?? Get real and talk the truth instead of making up such garbage. Meth is a problem the current sheriff has refused to do anything about and has stated publicly in Elfrida he will notbust a lab. Bradley will and has stated so. "

    Bradley Supporter wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:23 PM:

    " Independent and Republican for Bradley thank you for your support. Spread the word. This is really not about Reblican or Democrat. This is about having a sheriff who will be there for all the county. A sheriff who will give the newspapers the good along with the bad. A sheriff responsive to our meth problem and getting the #1 brand away from us. We can not have another four years of no action in this area. "

    Been there wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:15 PM:

    " Vote for Dever - you have one thing right. This sheriff stays out of your life. He is only there now for self interest, which is a bigger retirement check. Quaility of Life you had better check the sheriff's stance he started using it after Bradley did. Asfor money spending get to know Bradley and you will quickly find out he is not anywhere close to the spend thrift our sheriff is. Get your facts straight and then talk. Motorcycles in parades, training officer driving to and from Marana daily, our tax dollars. "

    Vote For Sheriff Dever wrote on Oct 6, 2008 2:03 PM:

    " In his own words from the artcle above the Democrat candidate offers no strategy and intends to move the law enforcement resources far away from where they are needed most. He places the same priority on a stolen shovel or water sprinkler as he does on violent crime. He wants to turn Deputies into counselors, give them "refresher training" on photography and and "change the attitude of members of the public". He may not be a left-leaning liberal but he sure talks like one. "

    Republican for Bradley wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:43 PM:

    " "Vote for Dever" You need to get your facts straight before you lump Bradley with the liberal left. Bradley has made it his focus to not only find funding and use it wisely but make cuts in unneaded spending such as taxpayers footing the bill for "take home rides". liberal? I think not. As a former law enforcement officer I understand the benefits if allowing officers to have thier vehicle available 24/7 but it shouldn't be at the expense pf the taxpayers especially when some deputies live outside a resonable responding distance. "

    Old timer wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:43 AM:

    " Been there - you hit a nail on the head. According to BP agents the sheriff has been working hard at getting their endorsement. Maybe they are not going to give it to him. Time will tell. If he doesn't get it something is seriously wrong. Federal agents seem to know when something is wrong. hopefully we will find out before the election. I think Bradley is the right man now. "

    Beenthere wrote on Oct 5, 2008 10:15 PM:

    " Union Endorsements - very strong talk. Can you back up your allegations with facts? If so put them on here or go to this paper and show it so we all may see. I think you are simply afraid the sheriff has not and will not be supported by BP. It has everything to do with what he hasn't done and how he has, when convenient to his agenda, belittled them. For the Border Patrol agents who do read this, you are keeping us safe, great job. "

    Union Endorsements wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:04 PM:

    " The Border Patrol and it's leadership are precluded from publicly endorsing any candidate. Unions that represent some but not all members of the BP can and do endorse candidates that suppport their union agendas. While Border Patrol agents are by and large very fine men and women doing a tough and necessary duty for their country that should be saluted - the union spouts some pretty radical trash talk about anybody that dares not fall in line with it's world view. Some friends you just don't need... "

    Old timer wrote on Oct 5, 2008 3:45 PM:

    " Old Marine - Clarence has done well as has Joe. Iris must not consider their ages because both of them are up in their 60's. Has not slowed them or their departments down. They brought executive experience in which Bradley has and the current sheriff does not. Didn't know Dupnik was from Bisbee. Keep kicking, 4-way doesn't stop you from enjoying life and you are doing well. "

    Old Marine wrote on Oct 5, 2008 1:55 PM:

    " Old timer: Good to read your posting. Your comments on Dupnik & Arpaio are interesting. I lived in Phoenix during the 1960's and find Joe Arpaio very well in control of Maricopa County. There are a few who don't like him but many more do. Did you know that Dupnik originally came out of Bisbee? I used to see a mailbox on Naco highway with his name. Clarence is very popular in Pima County. To date the 4-way bypass is holding up pretty well for this 84 year old man. "

    Questioning wrote on Oct 5, 2008 1:52 PM:

    " Dever for Sheriff - you stated the Dever has guided Cochise County law enforcement though tough times. do you mean all the agencies in this county? I think the chiefs and executives of Border Patrol and Customs would strongly disagree with you. I do not see them endorsing him nor do I see him leading the sheriff's department if the response times I see on here are correct. You don't lead by not returning phone calls and keeping a lid on your Public Information Officer. "

    Happy Pagan wrote on Oct 5, 2008 11:33 AM:

    " Iris, what's the point about Bradley being 65 in connection to the growth over the next 25-30 years? None of us will be here then, but it doesn't mean some positive actions can't be taken in the short term (say 8-10 years). I mean, your party has an old guy (72) running for president! Did anyone tell him he won't last 4-8 years? "

    Independent wrote on Oct 5, 2008 11:26 AM:

    " I've been undecided on this race, but reading these posts (particularly from some who have been in the county a long time) I've come to the conclusion that(as someone wrote), staying in the same place 32 years brings stagnation. Also, that the BP endorsed Bill Cloud cinched the choice. Another reason: I asked the SO why we (here, on the border!) do not have a "tent city" like Arpaio has and got a polite but evasive answer. "Can't do it." Its connected: drugs, illegals, crime (perhaps corruption). GO WITH CHANGE, forget he's a Democrat. "

    Bradley supporter wrote on Oct 5, 2008 11:09 AM:

    " Dever needs to go - you are very right about the department losing top quality law enforcement officers from undersheriff's on down. There are some who would return if the current sheriff is not re-elected. One question the sheriff may want to answer. How many stolen vehicles have been recovered out of Mexico since the deputy from Douglas left? The answer..... zero. Millions of dollars worth had been recovered prior to his leaving. The current Deputy although trying hard has no contacts in Mexico or the knowledge of how to get it done. "

    Bradley supporter wrote on Oct 5, 2008 11:02 AM:

    " Vote repuplican - having this sheriff for 12 years has got us where we sit, on top of the state as the #1 meth county far from being drug free. Labs in the valley are not in Mexico and the sheriff in his own words refuses to bust labs. No Democrat or Republican should accept his stance. There are plenty of Republicans that have seen and heard enough and will vote for Bradley. Whether you like Bill Clound or not his campaign showed the need for change in the sheriff's office and deputies backed him. "

    Vote for Dever wrote on Oct 5, 2008 10:56 AM:

    " Obama, Nancy Pelosi,& now candidate Bradley - liberals that stand for coddling (excuse me counseling) criminals, ignoring illegal immigration, and making promise upon promise that can only be paid for by taking more money out of taxpayer's pockets. Bradley is running for Sheriff to "improve our quality of life". Typical liberal speak. My quality of life is fine. I want a Sheriff that will stay out of my life and make it miserable on criminals. Bradley has been on the sidelines for too many years - the times have passed him by. Vote for Sheriff Dever. "

    Gotta Love IT wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:23 AM:

    " to Wondering. There are a bunch of deputies who love to off-road on motorcycles and quads when they are not on the job. So there's a demand from these deputies to ride bikes at work also. Also explains why the sheriffs office never enforces any off road vehicle regulations. "

    Bradley Supporter wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:07 AM:

    " Deaver for sheriff - if you want to see a money wasting liberal look at the current sheriff. He has a training officer driving back and forth to Marana, where he lives, everyday in a county vehicle. The Lieutenants for Benson, Bisbee and Douglas all live in Sierra Vista so they have to drive everyday. Motorcycles in parades - looks good but I am not willing to pay my taxes for such nonsense. "

    Reality wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:16 AM:

    " Dever says change is needed. I agree with him on that point, and won't be voting for him. If Dever gets elected there won't be anything changing. "

    Dever needs to go wrote on Oct 5, 2008 5:58 AM:

    " At one time Mr. Dever was a good lawman. No more. The Department has now become a group of brave men and woman without a rudder, no leader, and no real plan for the the future. Larry Dever is the cause of this malaise and the recent departures of so many talented people from the top of the Sheriff Department is outrageous. Mr. Dever is a major disappointment who does not deserve another term. There is ample time for the voters of Cochise County to make a change. "

    Vote Republican wrote on Oct 4, 2008 11:17 PM:

    " Meth is a scurge - unfortunately you can have 1000 lab certified Deputies and they can't touch the labs in Sonora Mexico that are sending all of the meth over on the backs of the illegals. Its the liberal Democrats and their candidates that refuse to stop the flow of illegals into Cochise County. Vote for a drug free Cochise County. Vote Republican! "

    Dever - no wrote on Oct 4, 2008 11:00 PM:

    " Dever for sheriff - you are out of touch with the reality of the outlying areas of the county. response times of 24 -72 hours are unacceptable anywhere. If the sheriff was forward thinking we would not be the #1 county for methamphetamine in the state. If he were forward thinking we would not be losing over 60% of the HIDTA funds. If he were forward thinking law enforcement all over the county would endorse him as well as the Governor and CongresswomanGiffords and Border Partol. I do not see this happening. "

    Dever for Sheriff wrote on Oct 4, 2008 10:09 PM:

    " Sheriff Dever has guided Cochise County law enforcement through some very tough times; explosive population growth and the crime that comes with it,waves of illegal immigration,budget constraints, and through it all, the Department has been modernized, Deputies are of a higher caliber than ever before and coverage throughtout the County is better than it has ever been. The next four years require Sheriff Dever's forward thinking not the tired and out of touch thinking of a tax and spend liberal Democrat candidate who has been out of law enforcement for the past several years. "

    Wondering wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:25 PM:

    " Reasonable - you bring out a good point things happen with sheriff's permission. The problem is he gives no one credit for their accomplishments but lays the blame on everyone but himself. If you take all the credit stand up and be a man when things fail and don't blame the Board of Supervisors, the Border Patrol or the Federal Gov't. He claims 22m in grants but under his watch the county has become the #1 county in the state for methamphetamine and he has done zero. Not one lab certified deputy. "

    Old timer wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:19 PM:

    " Old marine- At this time I have to recommend Bradley. The current sheriff was good his first 5-6 yrs after that it was down hill. It is unfortunate because he had the potential. I think the problem lies in being in the same organization so long, 32yrs, he stagnated. If you look at Dupnick and Arpaio they both came from other law enforcement agencies and brought in their executive experience. Both agencies are well respected throughout law enforcement. The same can not be said for our sheriff. Great news on the bypass surgery. Hang in there. "

    Old Marine wrote on Oct 4, 2008 3:32 PM:

    " Old timer, great to see your comment re: Jimmy Willson. He was my buddy and I enjoyed morning coffee with him for a few years until his untimely death while undergoing heart surgery. I had successful 4-way bypass surgery and I grieved for Jimmy Willson when he lost out. He gave me timely information re: filing for social security and medicare. I surely missed him. Who do you recommend for sheriff during this current election? I no longer reside in Bisbee or Cochise County. I moved to Tucson in 1999. "

    reasonable wrote on Oct 4, 2008 3:14 PM:

    " I guess the Sheriff had nothing to do with Bradley getting grants? At the very minimum he had to give him the latitude to do this. Does the chief executive of any company do all the legwork? No, they have people to do that with his/her guidance. It is the atmoshphere, guidance and freedom given to the employees that allows them to do their jobs. Maybe Bradley was assigned to do this or maybe it was his idea. Either way it was with the permission of the Sheriff that it happened. "

    Wondering wrote on Oct 4, 2008 2:19 PM:

    " Found out about the motorcycles. They were used today in the parade in Willcox.I don't see this as good use of taxpayer money. Fuel and manhours for a parade yet people go 24-72 hours witout repsonse to calls for assisance from the Sheriff. His prioriies are not for the people of this county. His actions today prove he is serving his self interest of re-election at our cost. "

    Wondering wrote on Oct 4, 2008 12:20 PM:

    " I was told today that the sheriff has now obtained motorcycles and is training deputies to ride them. Why when he can not train officers to bust meth lab is he spending money on motorcycles and training? This makes no sense to me. Can someone explain please. He says he is doing something about meth but where is the proof?
    EDITOR'S NOTE: See this link for a previous story about the motorcycles http://www.svherald.com/articles/2008/04/09/news/doc47fc662752af9957674782.txt "

    Old timer wrote on Oct 3, 2008 4:23 PM:

    " Old Marine, you are right about Jimmy Willson being a great sheriff there are few of us left who worked with him. Your current sheriff however does not hold a candle to him or Jimmy Judd. They both took care of your whole county and not one area as the current guy does. "

    Dever - what wrote on Oct 3, 2008 3:03 PM:

    " Dever supporter please check out the facts who got the positions for the sheriff's department. It was Bradley. The sheriff was unable to do it. Bradley brought in ten positions through the COPS grant. I also hear he did it with a phone call to people he knew. The sheriff did not and still does not have those type of contacts. If he has truly upgraded the department why are response times in the out lying areas 24-72 hours. No police executive would accept those response times. I'll take Bradley everyday. I can trust what he says. "

    Sheriff -race wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:29 PM:

    " Dever for Sheriff - Being the Director of a National training venue is far from abandoning county law enforcement. In fact deputies attended this training free of charge as well as Border Patrol, Customs and numerous police departments. Running a ranch happened in his spare time and with the assistance of his son-in-law who is also a deputy. If you look at his resume you will find he is still very involved with law enforcement issues. Did Border Patrol endorse Dever???? No, he only speaks the words, no action. "

    Dever for Sheriff Supporter wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:41 AM:

    " At a time when illegal immigration was a potential trip-wire across the entire Southwest and tensions were high between various groups - Sheriff Dever's leadership kept the lid on a highly explosive situation and guided the County through some precarious times. At a time when budgets were being cut Sheriff Dever upgraded the capabilities of the Department and staffed it with a first-rate Deputies. During these tough times - the Democrat candidate chose to abandon County law enforcement and be a full time cowpoke. Who would you prefer be working for you? "

    Sherieff -race wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:25 AM:

    " It is evident that Bradley is the right choice. He was the undersheriff for the current sheriff his first four years and stats were up, positions and money came in. Bradley left and the past eight years have been a down hill slide. Larry had the drive but has lost it to because of his personal self interests which is unforunate. The past four years have proven to me he needs to go and the deputies need someone who will fight for them along with the people of Cochise County. "

    NO MORE DEVER wrote on Oct 2, 2008 7:57 PM:

    " Larry Dever has done enough damage.
    Rothrock is worse.
    Time for a change.
    Time for a professional.

    Deeds not words!! "

    Dever - no wrote on Oct 2, 2008 2:38 PM:

    " Sheriff you say you are working closely with the Border Patrol answer a simple question. Why did the Border Patrol endorse Bill Cloud? It is because you only talk, you do not walk the walk. Maybe it is also because you won't enforce Arizona State Law when requested at the Port in Naco when people are found to have outstanding warrants or suspended licenses. Bisbee Police have to do your job. By the way the City then also gets the money and the County taxpayers lose more money from their pockets. "

    Bill wrote on Oct 2, 2008 2:01 PM:

    " Sheriff Dever is a fine gentleman and I have profound respect for him. However, the county needs the varied experience, and tireless energy of Norm Bradley to improve the Sheriff Department and prepare it for future generations of law enforcement challenges. Any person who is in the same work setting for decades simply is not properly prepared to manage the long-range planning needed to keep the sheriff department up to date. The department currently is in a state of stagnation. Norm Bradley will provide top-quality law enforcement for all areas of Cochise County. "

    Dever - no wrote on Oct 2, 2008 12:58 PM:

    " Dever for Sheriff - Both of those papers are far from liberal. Deputies should know how to handle mental health issues and domestic violence cases. Ask the counselors who have seen the what happens with a lack of training which they have offered free of charge. The sheriff is closed minded to the training. You also seemed closed minded and do not seem to understand FREE does not relate into expenditure of tax payers money. "

    Newspaper reader wrote on Oct 2, 2008 12:42 PM:

    " What to be an informed voter? Check old stories in our Herald... no don't bother trying because you won't find anything about internal problems; complaints, settlements or lawsuits involving this Sheriffs department. So check files at the offices in Bisbee or check county and state and Federal public information court records you find a lot against the Sheriffs department. Just because it looks like Larry Dever is doing a good job doesn't mean he is. Know the facts. Shame to our newspapers for not doing their job. "

    Wondering wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:57 AM:

    " Maybe someone can answer this question. Why is it that in recent events, where our sheriff and the democratic candidae both appear, you see the most prominent republican leader in Sierra Vista talking with the challenger and not the sheriff? What does she know that that the rest of should? Maybe Gail will inform us. She is a lady of integrity and insight. I have also heard the challengers campaign manager is also a republican. Wonder what they see and know? "

    Dever for Sheriff wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:34 AM:

    " Sheriff Dever didn't have the support of the left-wing liberal media in past elections and still won by very large margins because the voters of Cochise County are smart enough to make their own decisions. The Democrat candidate sees taxpayer money as the answer to every problem - my gosh he wants to turn Deputies into mental health counselors! What next - the criminals get limousine rides to prison? "

    Dever - no wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:35 PM:

    " Question - yes the two have met in a forum twice. The sheriff is not very willing to go for a third time because he lost the first two by a wide margin.
    Bradley's executive experience is far beyond this sheriff's. Check out the Opinion in the October 1 Benson paper. They are endorsing Bradley as well as the Willcox paper. Must be for good reason. "

    Bradley Supporter wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:02 PM:

    " Dever for Sheriff - you have not and will never hear Norm Bradley say anything bad about the deputies. they are very good. He does however take exception to the lack of training funds and promotion system in place. If the sheriff was doing his job Cochise County would not be ranked the #1 county for methamphetamine. He is yet to have one deputy lab certified. Why? because he stated in a public forum in Elfrida he will not bust a lab. Ask anyone from the Elfrida area who was there. "

    Bradley Supporter wrote on Oct 1, 2008 9:23 PM:

    " Iris - you don't see the point because you have failed in seeing the need to build a foundation for the future. Your family had to plan for its needs so does the Sheriff's office. The sheriff in his own words only looked three years into the future. That is very narrow minded and reflects his failure as an executive manager. "

    old marine wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:55 PM:

    " I voted Larry Dever into office for his 1st term to replace that private highway patrolman and nearly lost everything during that one term he served as sheriff. I was a strong Jimmy Willson supporter and likewise believe Larry Dever has the same qualities. I am in favor for voting him into a 4th term to utilize his experience. "

    Dever for Sheriff wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:26 PM:

    " So the Democrat candidate is running because he doesn't think the County Deputies are up to standard? He is mistaken. Cochise County Deputies happen to be some of the finest law enforcement officers in Arizona and stack up against any in the country. They could go anywhere in the State and the country for that matter and probably make more money doing it but they choose to work for Sheriff Dever's administration. Evidentley they see things differently than you do. "

    Question wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:46 PM:

    " Thank you for this very interesting article with quite alot of information on these two candidates. Was this a forum or were these candidates interviewed somewhere? Will they ever be face-to-face and be able to question each other? I would find that particularly revealing. This is an important choice and, so far, I haven't seen them together. Correct me if I've missed them . . .
    EDITOR'S NOTE: The candidates were sent the questions by the newspaper to answer so our readers could have some insight into their goals, reasons for running for sheriff. "

    Fernando wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:40 PM:

    " To Ghostwriter, Bureau Chief Rothrock is more than capable of running CCSO if Bradley (or Dever for that matter) can't. In fact, Rothrock would be the better man of Bradley OR Dever. To Dever-no, I wouldn't ask Pat Call anything. "

    Bradley Supporter wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:07 PM:

    " Dever Voter - the current sheriff is very good at taking credit, especially for what others do. Case in point, for the past two years the Board of Supervisors has had to step up for pay raises for deputies. The sheriff did not request it either year. He has however taken credit for it. Ask Supervisor Pat Call who stood up for employess. It was Call and Searle. The sheriff has not lived up to his claims of keeping good employees and taking care of them. They are on their own. "

    Dever for Sheriff wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:53 PM:

    " It sounds like the Democrat candidate would make a very fine grant writer. Being the Chief Executive - Sheriff - is a much higher order. What experience has the Democrat candidate obtained for the past four years after he lost the last election to Sheriff Dever? I'm afraid modern day law enforement may have passed him by.... "

    Iris Lynch wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:22 PM:

    " Bradley's first answer to why he wants to become Sheriff has to do with the County population doubling in the next 25-30 years. At his age, 65 he will be 90-95. I don't get the logic. "

    Dever - no wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:05 PM:

    " Dever Voter- you are right when you say the sheriff takes the good with the bad but I do not see the sheriff stepping up and taking any blame when there have been suicides in the jail, loss of grant funds, loss of deputies. He is quick to blame everyone else for his failings in good management. He blames the federal government, border patrol and the Board of Supervisors. He did not ask for pay raises for the deputies to ensure manpower. Ask Pat Call who stepped up, it was not the shereiff. "

    Independent wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:22 PM:

    " I'd like to know: Why a sheriff's office is in Sierra Vists when they cover the county? Why has the City not annexed the county islands within city limits which require the County Sheriff's office to protect? What response have you had, Mr. Dever, to your Strategic Plan in the three years since you submitted it to this Board of Supervisors? And what have you done to bring it to their attention? After three terms, perhaps it is time for a change. "

    Dever Voter wrote on Oct 1, 2008 1:19 PM:

    " Well KT - your argument is rather shallow. For better or for worse the person at the top gets credit for both the good and bad that occurs on his watch. When a Deputy arrests a criminal - the Sheriff doesn't actually put the cuffs on but he certainly can take credit for putting the resources in place that did the work. Sheriff Dever has done a fantastic job of leveraging grants and other resources that have minimized the financial burden on the county. He should get the credit for that and your vote. "

    Bradley for Sheriff Supporter wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:07 PM:

    " Mae it is obvious you overlook 21 yrs of US Customs Service For Bradley. This is far from the 3-4 years you are trying to claim. As far as the 22M claimed by the Sheriff he brought in check the facts. Those funds are passs through and anyone sitting in the chair would have received them. show me what he actually went out and sought. The answer is zero. Bradley brought in more money and postions as the undersheriff than the sheriff. "

    Andy wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:01 PM:

    " To: I Want Change
    You are dead wrong! Yes, some people want change, but not all change is for the best. Just because some wanted Cloud does not mean they will want Bradley or should want Bradley. Bradley has been defeated before and he will be again. If not, this county is in for a world of hurt. "

    coyotesings wrote on Oct 1, 2008 11:40 AM:

    " Larry Dever has proven himself as Sheriff. He has brought the Department into the 21st century by improving equiptment and training. The grants he and his senior personnel pulled in have saved the county millions. Larry has been with the department longer than most people work in their careers. He's a good man with the experience to keep the department improving. "

    Ghost writer wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:24 AM:

    " Mr Bradley is 65 years old. what if he becomes incapacitated while in office the undersheriff would take over managing the department. "

    KT wrote on Oct 1, 2008 8:36 AM:

    " The fact that the sheriff's department has received grants says nothing about why they were awarded. Dever has never explained what, if any, part he had in obtaining them. I suspect if he did have a part in it he would say so. Since he hasn't explained his contributin, we can assume he didn't have any part in requesting or winning the grants. Perhaps they were awarded on some merit not related to Dever or his work. "

    Dever for Sheriff Supporter wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:12 AM:

    " Sheriff Dever is right on target with his ideas and initiatives. Leverage available resources and apply the manpower and financial resources where they have the most impact. His opponet sounds like the typical out of touch liberal - promise to be everything for everybody - spend what we don't have or raise taxes to get it - burden the county with more costly government and government programs. "

    I Want Change wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:29 AM:

    " If you voted for Cloud in the primary, you want change. So swallow the bile that rises in your throat when you consider voting for a Democrat and vote for Bradley. "

    Mae wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:21 AM:

    " reading this says Mr Bradley does not stay on any job very long 3-4 years average. 79-92 at same organization but many different departments there suggesting not stable enough to accomphish alot that he talks about. and at 65 already how long do you think he will stay at this job??? "

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