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Are feds on track on fence?

Local group says its separate survey shows project falls short

By Jonathon Shacat
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Sunday, Sep 14, 2008 - 05:22:18 am MST

BISBEE — The U.S. Department of Homeland Security claims that more than half of the fencing called for in the Secure Fence Act of 2006 has been built along the U.S.-Mexico border.

But a local border watch group is claiming those figures are not accurate.

The U.S. government is building the fence in an effort to make the border more secure and help decrease illegal immigration.

As of Aug. 29, a total of more than 344 miles of fencing had been constructed under the Secure Border Initiative program, including 190 miles of pedestrian fence and more than 154 miles of vehicle fence.


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In other words, more than half of the proposed 670 miles is finished, according to Angela de Rocha, office of public affairs for U.S. Customs and Border Protection under the Department of Homeland Security in Washington, D.C.

“The completed fence is mainly in New Mexico, Arizona and California, with construction under way in Texas,” she states in an e-mail to the Herald/Review. “I think the numbers are actually a little higher, in that we have completed some segments since August 29, but this is the official mileage count.”

Glenn Spencer, president of American Border Patrol, a non-governmental organization that performs aerial surveys of fence construction, said the figures supplied by the Department of Homeland Security are wrong.

His group’s data shows that only 108 miles of fence have been built so far, in addition to about 161 miles of vehicle barriers, according to www.americanpatrol.com.

An amendment to the Secure Fence Act in December 2007 requires the government to complete 340 miles of fencing by Dec. 31. But survey data recently released by American Border Patrol shows that only 23 miles were added since April, or about five miles per month. At that rate of construction, Spencer said, “It seems most likely that they will fall far short.”

He also responded to reports that the Bush administration needs an additional $400 million to finish the border fence this year. He criticized officials for playing games with the budget “in order to make sure they could stop the fence now before it was discovered they had no plans to do the job anyway.”

Fence construction recently started on the west side of the San Pedro River. Spencer said the new fence design there is a major improvement compared to much of the fencing that has been built so far.

“For most of the Naco Border Patrol area, there is a mesh-type fence that is about 13 feet tall,” he said during an interview. “What they are installing now, west of the river, is 18 feet tall and it is made of steel beams with a steep plate at the top. It is more effective because number one, it is taller, and number two, it doesn’t have mesh where you can put in screwdrivers and climb up the fence.”

But, Spencer stressed, even though the new fence design is improved, the government needs to build two layers of it. That is, one fence and then another fence built parallel to it. With only a single layer, it is too easy to place items, such as tires or a ladder, against the fence and use them to climb over, he added.

Richard Hodges, who owns a ranch near Bisbee Junction, said he is pleased with a section of border fence the government built along his property earlier this year. Previously, only a barbed wire fence existed there.

The new fence there is made with steel poles that stand about 13 feet tall. Hodges said he thinks this style of fencing is far better than the mesh-type fencing that has been built in other areas.

“From what I have seen, it is effective,” Hodges said.

Spencer, on the other hand, said he does not think the fence near the Hodges ranch is effective.

Hodges acknowledged “it would be possible for someone wearing tennis shoes to tie their feet together, shimmy up the round poles of the fence, swing over the top and shimmy down the other side.”

“With the square tubing, you are not supposed to be able to do that,” Hodges added. “I suppose that is probably true in theory, but I don’t know how many people could do that. I couldn’t.”

The Arizona Sierra Club, a grass-roots environmental organization, is not pleased with the current construction of border fence near the San Pedro River.

“They have already completed the wall on the east side of the bank. Now that they are building the wall on the west side of the bank, it is just going to further inhibit wildlife from being able to use that area to cross back and forth across the border,” said Sean Sullivan, spokesman for the group.

He added that border fence construction also has caused flooding problems recently in Nogales and in the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument.

Sullivan said the fencing does not have the desired effect of stopping illegal immigration. Rather, it is simply moving illegal immigrants to another area to cross the border.

The Sierra Club recently finished a documentary about border wall construction from California to Texas. The film is intended to urge people to tell representatives to repeal Section 102 of the Real ID Act, which is how the government is able to move forward with construction without adhering to laws.

A screening of the film will take place in Tucson on Saturday. DVDs are available. For information, visit www.arizona.sierraclub.org/border. To view a six-minute version, click on “border film.”

HERALD/REVIEW reporter Jonathon Shacat can be reached at 515-4693 or by e-mail at jonathon.shacat@bisbeereview.net.



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    Bill Ascherfeld wrote on Jan 18, 2009 5:58 PM:

    " I used to be in favor of a 2800 mile fence until I realized what it would cost in American territory: 2800 X 5280 X 12 (minimum width of American land sacrificed to control Illegal Aliens. roughly 4,224 acres. But a fence w/out patrols is worthless. So, spend the money on mobile gun towers, and "blinds" covering canyon routes in rugged terrain. Where tunnels are known to thrive, drill down about 100' and use enough high explosives to seal tunnels and make the ground "un-tunnel-worthy for several hundred yards in each direction. More info: zed6@att.net "

    first svian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 9:53 AM:

    " ec, migration might have been a force of nature as you so quaintly put it, however,since the formation of nation states, borders have been enacted, laws passed and most nation do not allow such crap to occur. And by the way, the U.S. did not destroy their economy..they ARE the 5th richest nation in the world, they have oil coal silver gold, etc etc, beaches, ancient sites, yet THEY choose to keep THEIR OWN people in poverty...we have NO obligation to support them when they have the resources to do so themselves! "

    cam wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:34 AM:

    " Instead of a fence, build a hiway directly to those places where immigrants flow becuase US laws are being disobeyed by everyone who wants their grass cut ot their factories working. The fence however is a bad idea, it is a feel good thing that menas the feds and state can wahs their hands of teh whole issue. fences wont' work. obey the laws, ship illegals home fine adn jail in the US and shoot drug runners. "

    To ec wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:48 AM:

    " Good comparison for illegal aliens invading America and hurricanes destroying our country! If we could control the damage by hurricanes we would stop them too. Since we can stop the damage caused by illegal aliens through border control we need to commit to this worthy cause without fail.By the way corruption and drug lords are destroying their country not the US. I agree, lets help them by sending them home! "

    To don wrote on Sep 15, 2008 12:15 PM:

    " We are still awaiting you answers to your "bigot" statement.....Do not make statements unless you can back them up with names and facts. We are loosing our country because of thin veiled statements and blatant lies. Back it up or state your true agenda to the American Public! "

    ec wrote on Sep 15, 2008 9:50 AM:

    " bobby said "If Americans really cared about their nation.. they would have put a stop to illegal immigration" This is like saying that if Americans really cared, they would stop hurricanes. Migration is a force of nature that's been happening for millions of years, with all species, even humans. It especially happens when there is very very high resource inequalities... the people coming over those walls are coming because their countries have been economically destroyed by the U.S. government. They have to come, or they starve. It won't even slow down till we help them. "

    To Don wrote on Sep 14, 2008 7:10 PM:

    " Where you been? The Berlin wall was tore down years ago. If your trying to be funny, you aren't. "

    Bradwhg wrote on Sep 14, 2008 4:18 PM:

    " For those who want to see a map of the fenced areas, go to Glenn Spencer's site. The links are in the above article. He has everything on his site. He has documented the lack of progress and the areas of substandard fencing since the fence was started. Excellent! "

    M A Andrews wrote on Sep 14, 2008 4:15 PM:

    " Even Sierra Club members are complaining
    that it has lost its way on this issue.
    And the barrier fence at this point
    seems to be the best we can do
    until laws already on the books
    start to be enforced by Outlaw/Sanctuary Cities !!! "

    Bobby wrote on Sep 14, 2008 3:55 PM:

    " Glen, here is my view. We know the administration, White House, Congress and Senate don't care about the nation, really, then when you add to that millions of Americans who don't care, you get open borders and subsequent catastrophe. It's only a matter of time.If Americans really cared about their nation, in general, they would have put a stop to illegal immigration many, many years ago, wouldn't they have? "

    Glenn Spencer wrote on Sep 14, 2008 12:02 PM:

    " I find it fascinating that the Border Patrol would still claim that, as of Aug. 29 the Secure Border Initiative has built 190 miles of border fence when page 15 of a Sept. 10 GOA report says it is 109 miles.
    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d081141t.pdf

    American Border Patrol's estimate, based an aerial survey ended July 29, was 108 miles. Pretty close I would say, "

    To don wrote on Sep 14, 2008 11:30 AM:

    " don,
    You wrote the following although you failed to name the people you are calling "biggots." I am guessing you are calling anyone/everyone "biggots" that wants human, drug and sex-slave traders blocked from entering the United States of America. don,Please explain your comment. Are you Pro-Illegal?
    "don wrote on Sep 14, 2008 7:50 AM:
    " seems to me, we need to tear down the berlin wall and run all the biggots out. "" "

    jack wrote on Sep 14, 2008 10:33 AM:

    " It would be nice if the Herald could print a map of the border showing the fenced areas and pictures of the different fence designs. "

    Brittanicus wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:56 AM:

    " The two-tier border fence as originally drafted by Rep.Duncan Hunter (R-CA) has been undermined by Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The American people should ask and her party members why? Why wouldn't she want to slow the movement of drugs, the gun runners, illegal immigration and the infestation of terrorists and the taxpayers traumatic expenditure to support illegal alien families. http://www.eagleforum.org/sources/ Why wouldn't the Democrats, judges, want to halt access for child pedophiles, female assaults, murders, robbers and Social security theft that do not get wide press. "

    KT wrote on Sep 14, 2008 8:01 AM:

    " A documentary is supposed to present the facts. It should not be designed to sway the viewer in one way or another. What the Siearra Club did was make a propaganda piece, showing their side of the story. This is ok, but if they want creditbility, then call the piece what it is. "

    don wrote on Sep 14, 2008 7:50 AM:

    " seems to me, we need to tear down the berlin wall and run all the biggots out. "

    Builder wrote on Sep 14, 2008 6:42 AM:

    " One representive we won't have to tell to repeal Section 102 of the Real ID Act, is Giffords. She is in bed with the Sierra Club, and was trying to slow the building of the fence awhile back. "

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