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County ordinance change could require licenses for cats

Aimed at protecting people and pets from rabies

By Shar Porier
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 - 05:26:53 am MST

BISBEE — If the rewritten county animal control ordinance gets approved by the Cochise County Board of Supervisors, cats roaming around in other people’s yards or on public property can be rounded up and taken to a shelter just like their canine counterparts.

Anne Carl, civil attorney for the county, compiled the new document that clearly defines Title 6 of the county ordinances. She presented it to Supervisor Richard Searle and County Administrator Mike Ortega in a work session Monday morning. Supervisors Paul Newman and Pat Call did not attend.

The ordinance is aimed at protecting the county residents and animals from the spread of rabies as the number of cases continues to rise in the state. The new ordinance that includes cats would be a first for the counties in Arizona, added Carl.

The new Section 6, which deals with cats, will provide an equality in the pet world, she said.



Chief Deputy Rod Rothrock, who helped with the ordinance, explained, “If a dog relieves himself in a neighbor’s yard, a resident can call and we’ll respond. If a cat goes into a neighbor’s yard and disturbs something or eats the neighbor’s birds, right now there is no course of action.”

Section 6.3 specifies that the county animal control officer “shall only pick up a cat when the officer suspects that a cat-at-large is in or is causing danger or distress; when a cat is feral; or if a county resident makes a specific complaint ...”

Cat owners also may be required to get a county license for their felines, as well, though just what that fee would be was not discussed.

“We are proposing that cats get licenses, too,” reasoned Carl. “The licenses enable us to find the owners.”

It could be the same fee as a dog license that is set to go up to $5 a year (for a neutered animal) or $12 for three years. The licenses, which provide the county with $9,700 in funds at the current $3 per license per un-neutered animal, could be obtained at the same time as rabies shots.

The idea behind the three-year license is to make it more convenient for residents. As animals are taken in for rabies shots once every three years, the license can be purchased at the same time for the same period, pointed out Chief Deputy Rod Rothrock.

The county animal control officer will provide harmless traps that are set up in the complaining resident’s yard to catch the wayward cat or dog that has become a nuisance upon payment of a refundable deposit of $25. The resident has to trap the critter in the shade of the resident’s property and place food and water in the trap. When the animal has been trapped, the resident must immediately call the county to come and pick it up. Since animal control is not on duty over  weekends, people who have the traps cannot set them during that time.

Any dog or cat that is determined to be neglected whether at-large or in a yard or pen, also can be taken to an animal shelter or, if it is obviously too ill or too ill-tempered, can be put down by a decision of the animal control officer with agreement from one of the county’s contracted veterinarians or their technicians, said Carl.

Law enforcement would be able to enter a yard to untangle a dog from its chain, added Rothrock, who indicated calls are made to the sheriff’s office about animal welfare.

Searle was concerned about the liability the county would have as decisions of the animals’ health and well-being would be assessed by county employees, especially in the case of euthanizing someone’s pet that was picked up.

Animal control officer Lori Nichols-Wright told him that if an animal is picked up and has parvo, it will be euthanized since such diseased animals cannot be taken into a shelter where the disease could spread. She indicated the veterinarian contracted with the county to perform the euthanasia would be making the decision.

But Ortega noted that such decisions are made by staff on a daily basis and the county could rely on their judgement.

A new definition for just who an owner is also was added by Carl. Under the new ordinance an anyone and everyone at a specific address who feeds a dog or a cat for six days and is of legal age and capacity will be regarded as the owner(s) who is then required to get the animal rabies shots and a license.

Shelter and kennel conditions are specified and require pet owners to provide convenient access to natural or artificial shelter that is structurally sound and of sufficient size. “Any shelter which does not protect the animal from temperature extremes or precipitation, or does not provide adequate ventilation or drainage is in violation ...”

“I’m concerned we’re making it too restrictive and over-zealous,” Searle said. “There are lots of people who don’t let their dogs inside and the dogs are acclimated to the outdoors.”

There was some discussion on the definition of a kennel, which the ordinance states as “an enclosed, control area inaccessible to other animals in which a person keeps, harbors or maintains five or more dogs under controlled conditions.”

Under these circumstances, a person with six or more dogs would have to go to the planning and zoning commission to get a special use permit for a kennel, whether or not animal husbandry is involved. That has been a sticking point with many in the rural areas who have spoken out against the kennel code at planning and zoning meetings.

It’s not the number of dogs you have, it’s the conditions in which they are kept. It shouldn’t matter how many you have,” said Searle. “And if you have a bunch of dogs and live on the back-40, there are no problems.”

Searle wants the ordinance to deal with animal cruelty and neglect issues that involve law enforcement. Other aspects, especially as to what number of animals it takes to deserve a kennel designation, belong in the planning and zoning commission purview.

“Just because someone has a lot of critters doesn’t mean they are going to be mistreated. A person can have a special-use permit and be abusive to animals. We should concentrate on cruelty issues,” Searle said.

The ordinance will not come back to the supervisors in a work session setting. Instead, Ortega said it could be brought before the supervisors in a regular meeting. All ordinances and amendments to ordinances are required to include a public hearing. No date was given as to when the animal ordinance would be brought to the board.

Herald/Review reporter Shar Porier can be reached at 515-4692 or by e-mail at shar.porier@bisbeereview.net.



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    SVH EDITOR wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:54 AM:

    " Editor's note: The comments on this story are now closed. "

    simplyme wrote on Sep 9, 2008 12:07 PM:

    " coyotesings is right, people in ALL walks of life let their kids go untamed, so what's the issue with cats? A SV family, one parent is a military officer the other is well educated, the home is over 200K their boys relieve themselves in the front yard, with no regard to the little girls. They play with the neighbor's children and pee in the neighbors back yard!! When parents are confronted they say..."we allow our children to do that". As adults that is called indecent exposure, yes they're rock throwers too. These parents belong in the pound. "

    cat lover wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:14 AM:

    " It is obvious that a very high percentage of these comments are written by people who know nothing about cats. Go walk your dog. "

    Interesting wrote on Sep 8, 2008 6:26 AM:

    " Everyone I talked that was at this meeting said they spent 2 seconds on this issue and that it was supposed to be taken out. There seems to be an awful lot of detail in the story though. "

    first svian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 6:03 AM:

    " to anon, the answer to that is simple, although we all grew up in a nation which was founded and achieved great success by letting peole make their own decisions and choices, we now live in a world where people must have everyone agree with their ideas and beliefs...my guess is that they are not comfortable enough in their own beliefs as longs as there might be just one person who has a different idea. so much for their faith. "

    coyotesings wrote on Sep 7, 2008 7:58 PM:

    " I lived in Sierra Vista for several years ... EVERY ONE of my neighbors who had children let them run amok. They broke off the limbs of my native Ocotillo, threw rocks from my rock garden into the street, stole items from the yard, etc. I'm sure many of those children grew up to be junkies, thieves and worse. Point being, a free roaming domestic cat has less chance of becoming a danger to society, but ill raised children turn into murderers, thives and dopers. "

    Cat Hater wrote on Sep 7, 2008 6:07 PM:

    " Any feral cat should be shot. Need I say more? "

    anon wrote on Sep 7, 2008 10:34 AM:

    " Cats are semi-wild animals whose natural habitat is outdoors. Sure you can train them to be accepting of being indoors, but its not natural. Why are people making such a big deal of this? "

    Felix wrote on Sep 7, 2008 8:18 AM:

    " Making gruel eating indoor lap warmers out of cats and dogs is cruel. Declaw them, have them fixed, feed them grain, inbreed them until they have defects,what does that do to an animal that should be able to fend for itself. "

    first svian wrote on Sep 7, 2008 6:33 AM:

    " that is all well and good in the "ideal" world, however, our cats were all rescued, therefore we did not nor cannot force them to be indoors only, perhaps we should have let them be killed? would that have better in your opinion? They are loving animals who were thrown away like so much else in this country...how we treat the unwanted says alot about our nation. "

    mike k wrote on Sep 7, 2008 6:01 AM:

    " This is just another way to get more money from the people so you can spend it on dumb things. You want more money why not make the public workers drive their own autos to and from work like all other workers. Just think how much would be saved in fuel cost. People are tired of fees and permits "

    Buzz wrote on Sep 6, 2008 11:09 PM:

    " round up all the strays and euthenize 'em..... "

    Elle wrote on Sep 6, 2008 6:35 PM:

    " I have 2 cats and a dog. All animals are fixed and vaccinated. Cats are indoor cats and not declawed. They sit at the front door or windows and look outside. They like to lay at the foot of my bed. I wouldn't want them laying there if they roamed outdoors. I don't see what benefit there is in licensing indoor animals. "

    cat lover wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:08 AM:

    " Cats should be indoor pets. There are too many hazards outside for them to be safe--from cars to coyotes. If cats are kept indoors as a kitten, and neutered at the proper age, they don't even want to go outside. Once cats are allowed outside, then it's hard to keep them in. The moral of the story--keep your cat indoors. "

    bob wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:32 PM:

    " I agree with coyotesings, there should be a kid license and any time someone's kid is caught on someone else's property the kid and the parents should be deported to Mexico. "

    to it doesnt matter wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:40 AM:

    " Exactly, this is much like the speed gun cameras going up on I-10. It's meant to generate revenue, pleasing a few from the big city is an added bonus. It's good to see that the county must have all of its major problems solved already, if they have time discuss this silliness. "

    Voter wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:32 AM:

    " I’m sure adding more government is what we need. Heck, lets add a fat tax on all fat animals as well since they may cause injury to our law enforcement officers responding to a call. Perhaps this may increase the response time for less important things such as break-ins, illegals, meth, and the list goes on. This is a joke! "

    Perhaps wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:36 PM:

    " Perhaps they should just fine people who make public presentations of stupid, half-baked ideas...

    That should fill the coffers. "

    cat servant wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:45 PM:

    " You shouldn't be letting your cat out without supervision anyway. If you are with your cat, you won't have to worry about the collar falling off. Wandering cats do cause problems. Whether they are vaccinated or not, they can spread disease such as corona virus and ringworm. These can be costly problems, and/or evolve into fatal illnesses. If you can not take your cat or dog out for proper, supervised exercise, then you shouldn't have one. And it IS possible to supervise a cat outdoors: use a leash, training, or confinement system. Letting a cat poop/wander anywhere is very irresponsible. "

    Cat Hater wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:01 PM:

    " To coyotesings: My grandchildren are under control, as were my children. My "Nasty children" as you called them have never been an issue or have NEVER stolen property or are not general nuisances for any of the neighborhoods in town. They are have never been in a gang and are law abiding citizens who work and pay taxes. What about you? What kind of neighborhoods have you lived in? "

    It doesnt matter what they do wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:24 AM:

    " I can see exactly what is going to happen here. The good law abiding citizens will pay for the tags and put them on their kitties and then get fined when they wander or accidentally get out; the same folks that are letting their cats scavange the neigborhood won't get the tags, and since they won't have tags they won't ever be held accountable. Exactly again what does this solve other than increasing their budget? I personally am going to enjoy watching them chase and "catch" these cats, they are creating more problems for themselves then they are solving! "

    simplyme wrote on Aug 30, 2008 10:07 PM:

    " to Laughing-because this article says it in paragraph 4, Chief Deputy Rod Rothrock, he works for the sheriff's dept as I wondered the same thing so I googled it. Falcons/hawks eat birds too, I saw a falcon last week at my house and the birds scattered. I love birds that's why I have my bird feeders out back. Boy-howdy you city slickers, always trying to fight the laws of nature. I'm sure one of my cats became coyote food, not a fun thing but the circle of life. Better than being hit by a speeding car which is not natural. "

    Laughing wrote on Aug 30, 2008 11:04 AM:

    " To effort...what makes you think the Sheriff has anything to do with an ordinance on cats? The Board of Supervisors make the ordinances. "

    coyotesings wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:53 AM:

    " Big difference between cats and dogs, and remember, cats are required to have rabies shots too. Dogs cause lots of problems when the run free, not to mention their pack mentality. When was the last time you heard of a pack of cats mauling and killing some little kid or elderly person? PU-LEASE!!
    Why is your bird feeder Accesible to cats anyway??????? Duh!!!
    Silly law and hope someone comes to their senses down there before becoming the laughing stock of Arizona!!! "

    Its about time wrote on Aug 30, 2008 7:05 AM:

    " We dog owners are required by law to keep our pets on a leash, fenced yard, kennel...AND be licensed! Cats go wherever they want! So which is more likely to contract/spread rabies? Cats should be licensed. I'm sure cat owners wouldn't like my dogs walking on their vehicles, using their flowerbeds as a bathroom, or killing birds at the bird-feeder. And, I don't want to hear "It's in their nater". Let the cat owners share in a little responsibility! Maybe then the neighbors wouldn't have 20+ cats overrunning the area! "

    chow chow chow wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:55 PM:

    " It seems meow had too much cat knip, maybe meow should try living in a third world country and see what's for dinner.
    Tagging cats ...good idea if you can catch them..how about a meow permit!
    Viva Los Gatos!! "

    coyotesings wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:44 PM:

    " This must be an example of a cat with a neighbor's bird ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_guQZAuxe8

    coyotesings wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:42 PM:

    " The ultimate attack cat ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcxhOGyrCtI "

    coyotesings wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:14 PM:

    " The ultimate attack cat ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcxhOGyrCtI "

    JNC wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:44 AM:

    " Too bad there are people out there that has to dream of cats patrolling the border like MEOW. "

    MEOW wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:57 AM:

    " HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!
    Hey Diane thanks for sharing the video, that was awsome: So what's next "Cat Rodeo?" Maybe the birds can be trained to ride on them at the Rodeo;(laughing). "

    Dog wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:05 AM:

    " I just love cats. Please send them my way. "

    MEOW wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:41 PM:

    " HA! HA! HA! Cat Boarder Patrol Alert!!!!
    Why Not!!! Train them to attack the illegals!!!! Imagine them (the Illegals) running back home with rabies!!! that might solve the problem of them trying to cross the boarder. whoo La La that might save tax payers money. No more real people patroling, no more worrying about getting hit with rocks when illegals are trying to cross.
    "NO WAY!!!" "NOW HOW!!!" "NO ILLEGAL!!!"
    The END!!! CASE CLOSED "

    Diana wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:26 PM:

    " This video will make you chuckle, maybe someone in the county spent a late night watching this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgH4h4KMoGk "

    reblreba wrote on Aug 28, 2008 6:09 PM:

    " I'd like to know what friend, of what county supervisor complained about cats enough to get this on the county's agenda. "

    coyotesings wrote on Aug 28, 2008 6:03 PM:

    " Hey Cam, those are some COOL cats you got hangin' around your yard!!! Must be ILLEGAL CATS!!! *laugh*
    My 2 cats consume or kill approximately 10 mice/rats/gophers in a 24 hour period. I'd say they earn their keep!!!
    To Cat Hater, do you keep your nasty little children out of other people's yards??? My experience in Sierra Vista and other towns was having brats of all ages destroying my gardens, stealing property and being general nuisances. Give me the cats using the sand box as, well, A SAND BOX!!! LOL "

    effort wrote on Aug 28, 2008 4:19 PM:

    " I wish the sheriff would put this much effort towards stopping illegal aliens! Seems like it is time for a new sheriff, one that will focus on larger issues. "

    MEOW wrote on Aug 28, 2008 2:14 PM:

    " For "What Wrote" you might want to check out this website; www.pettags.com
    for adjustable cat break-away safety collar, you can even personalized it so you don't have to buy an extra ID tag. Hope this is something you are looking for "Good Luck" "

    Cat Hater wrote on Aug 28, 2008 1:32 PM:

    " I guess these cat owners do not get their flower beds and childrens play areas used as litter boxes. Oh wait that is MY YARD!!!! "

    What wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:25 AM:

    " Although I understand the problems that have led to wanting to license cats, I have a cat who can't keep a collar on. How could I hang a license tag on him? Cats need collars that release when pulled on as they crawl through areas on which collars can catch. Without a release, they can strangel, be attacked by loose dogs, and more. For the safety of my cat, I won't collar him without a release. He loses release collars ususally in 3-4 days. What should I do? "

    What A Joke wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:05 AM:

    " Cats are free roaming animals and are not subject to a leash law or required to stay indoors. Providing harmless trap to the complaining neighbors? And baiting the traps? And setting guidelines as to when the traps are set? hmmmmmmmm somebody is not thinking right. And what a hassle to go through the whole works of depositing $25; to get a trap? That is a big loud echoing laugh!!!!! "

    Get real wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:53 PM:

    " Zappa - but YOUR cats are YOUR responsibility. You don't want them trapped? Keep'em on YOUR property - they a'int mine and I don't want them in MY yard! "

    another tax wrote on Aug 27, 2008 8:17 PM:

    " Is this ann Carl serious? Yet another money making tax scam idea by local govt. "Equality in the pet world"?? What a joke, animals aren't equal, nor should that be a goal. Cats are designed to go outside. I guess a few rich people have the Supervisors' ears. I seriously doubt there is a rabies epidemic on humans caused by cat bites. I thought the majority of Supervisors were Republican? What's with the regulation and new fees? "

    No Incumbents wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:37 PM:

    " The county board of supervisors are so intent on regulating cats, kennels, planning, zoning, animal husbandry, wildlife water, etc. that they have no time for the things that matter: crime, animal cruelty, roads, safety, San Pedro River, uncontrolled growth. Vote them out! "

    cam wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:18 PM:

    " hey coyotesings, just yesterday I had some 30 or so cats come in my yards.. som ehad eye patches, some cigs and some well, they was hopped up on meth.. I wuz terrorized by their poo and pee and caterwaling.... they scared them illegals, drug runners right out off my property they was so mean... :-) Hey, if we license them cats, maybe the minute men can use them to guard the border... how 'bout that instead of the stupid fence... seriously, just say you are raising taxes, "

    So why... wrote on Aug 27, 2008 4:54 PM:

    " Why aren't you people that are complaining about the licensing not complaining about required dog licensing, also? "

    coyotesings wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:57 PM:

    " *chuckle* Can't help it, this whole issue really sounds like some sort of bizarre sci fi flick ... With all the illegals running around killing, stealing and dealing in Southern Arizona, is this whole cat issue for real??? Come on, does no one in goverment have any common sense? When was the last time someone was attacked by a pack of domestic cats and mauled? Or the last time a domestic cat spread rabies??? Leave the kitties alone ... Go after the illegals instead! :>) "

    geeze wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:22 AM:

    " Sounds like the pet gustopo. Animal control agents think they are actual cops. We live in the country. A few years ago out next door neighbor was robbed in broad daylight.They have six dogs that are pent up with no way out.Our dogs were on our property free to roam our 4 acres. Had these robbers seen our dogs greet them, they would have taken off. Our home was saved because our dogs were doing their job,PROTECTING OUR HOME.Go after the real criminal, the human animal. "

    first svian wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:04 AM:

    " protect people from rabies? and just what is the incidence of rabies in house cats at this time? it is usually wild animals with rabies, so dont even attempt to put this one oever on us...it is really about dwindling income for the county and they need toget out of peopleslives and find something better to do with their time at meetings...like schools, parks, roads... "

    Diana wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:27 PM:

    " Whoa lets back this up one moment. As I read, they can come into my yard (if who) deems my pet neglected then can be taken to the shelter or if ill tempered can be killed on the findings of a vet tech. There had better been some deep pockets that the county has if this ever happens to my pet. It is no wonder this work session was not posted on the web site until Sat afternoon. Did Call and Newman not attend because the were not notified in time or they were afraid of the public reaction? "

    Cat owner wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:55 PM:

    " Gov't, local or otherwise, shouldn't be legislating responsibility. While I prefer all cat owners keep their cats indoors given the dangers these animals could face outdoors, it really isn't any of my business as to whether or not they allow their cats outdoors. Nor is it the business of the local gov't as long as the owner is properly caring for the cat and providing the necessary vaccinations. Gov't needs to stay out of our private lives. "

    Zappa wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:38 PM:

    " So the cats poo and pee in your yard, so what. So they eat a bird that moved too slow, so what. They are not yours and so not your responsibility; leave them to their task of killing rodents a service for which they deserve high praise. And if you should make the mistake of trapping one of my cats let me warn you, you would be safer facing a rabid dog then an enraged me. "

    curious wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:38 PM:

    " While your at it, would you please put tags on the UDA's that are wondering around in my yard. Please. Or take them to the county shelter too. I can't wait to see my county tax dollars going towards somebody herding cats. To funny "

    Wasting Energy wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:32 PM:

    " I suggest for all the complainers about cat or pets in general not to waste your energy with such a stupidity issue. If cats get trapped and send to the vet, naturally the owner will be called to claim their pet or pets; those pets will roam freely again. Don't treat pets as criminal. If you are worrying about rabies why not worry about disease birds carried. I am not sorry if you are not a pet lover. "

    licensing wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:10 PM:

    " Strictly on the topic of licensing I think it's a fine idea if the procedes go to support our animal shelter and enforcement. If it's like dogs, $5/year if altered $20 if not. Even lots of people with neutered indoor cats drop them at the pound for lousy reasons. And not ALL people neuter their animals. They use lame excuses like it being expensive (there's programs for that).

    Again, procedes would have to go to animal control and helping the pets in the shelter for me to approve. "

    True Believer wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:59 PM:

    " You really have to believe that government can cure all your problems if you can believe it can govern the behavior of cats. "

    PackratsMiceSnakes wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:55 PM:

    " How about the good that kitties do for us!!! Cats are natural hunters. They take care of the things that drive us crazy! Spiders and scorpians too!!! Lets all give our kitties a pat on the head! Good Kitties! Please, take care and your kitties, we owe them that for all they do for us! Please, if you love them, keep them away from neighbors that don't care for them!!! "

    Bird Watcher wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:31 PM:

    " Editor/deleter, why did you edit half of my comment? "

    right wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:26 PM:

    " Rod, when was the last time someone left their bird outside for a cat to eat, that's just plain stupid and stupid for you to say. I don't mind getting a license, at least if my cat is caught, I can get it back. "

    LOL wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:05 PM:

    " "The ordinance is aimed at protecting the county residents and animals from the spread of rabies as the number of cases continues to rise in the state." Since records have been kept in Arizona one human being has died of rabies in each of the following years: 1943; 1950; 1970; and 1981. None of these were from a cat bite. Sounds like more big government regulations in order to have the taxpayers pay more for something they don't need to begin with. Not a surprise from the current board of supervisors. "

    anon wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:58 PM:

    " Sounds like a Monty Python sketch...

    "Hello, I would like to buy a fish license, please" "

    SVCatowner wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:52 PM:

    " People who let their cats roam the neighborhood freely are irresponsible pet owners. They are making their pets the responsibility of their neighbors - and the neighbors have no choice in the matter. My cat stays indoors. People should be held responsible for their pets and not be allowed to make them other people's responsibility. I'm glad local government is not ignoring this matter. Somebody has to take responsibility and action. "

    simplyme wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:08 PM:

    " Hey Walt, I neuter my cat (nokitties), I get his shots, (nodisease), I pay his vet bills when he is ailing, he is a blessing for the neighbors and offers free rodent control. Memoirs from a stray...."Is there a more pitiable creature that the four-footed animal, stray cat, foodless, shelterless, dirty and ribs showing through matted fur, harried through alley and slums of the cities?" that shivering bundle if misery seeking shelter in a huddle underneath a car. Yes, the neighborhood loud, roudy, trash tossing, rap pounders whose parents say "my kids don't drink" why can't Bisbee control them? HELLO!!! "

    coyotesings wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:07 PM:

    " *laugh* Okay, Rod, I love you but this is really silly. Cats and dogs are as different as, well cats and dogs! I have both, and there is no way to monitor an outdoor cat. It's not natural for cats to be indoors. Okay, so I live in California and have property, not in the city with close neighbors, but it sill sounds silly to me. But ya'll have fun out there in Sunny Sierra Vista with your cat leash law!
    JJ "

    Here Kitty wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:04 PM:

    " Is that how pathetic we have become. We believe that we can pass laws which allow our omnipotent government to regulate the conduct of cats. When you see a cat in your yard call, then hold your breath until it is caught. "

    How stupid wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:52 PM:

    " Cats roaming freely can already be rounded up and taken to shelters. That's how I adopted one of my cats - he was roaming, and someone took him to the shelter. This is just another ploy to get money out of our pockets! Might as well license kids, too so they are out roaming after curfew, they can be put away as well - and the parents can pay a fine to get them out! "

    what wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:33 PM:

    " cat-at-large.....that is and has always been (read grandfathered ) you cannot change mother nature....what a stupid idea...and as to cats creating litters, almost all cat owners I know have their pets fixed so that is not a problem...too bad the same cannot be said for many couples...ie should be fixed also to prevent unwanted children. "

    Cat Lover wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:16 PM:

    " Now...what if your cat never goes outside??? Why should I pay for a license when my kitties are indoors only and yes that is all the time, they never go out, they don't even try to and they are perfectly happy. It just makes no sense! "

    Seems rather stupid but whatever wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:08 PM:

    " Seems like a way for the county to get more revenue rather than solve anything. I don't need the county to keep track of my cats. They are strictly indoors only, neutered and have microchips. If licenses are required they will just be thrown a drawer along with their rabies tags since my cats have never worn collars.
    And, honestly, I do not see the problem with a feral cat eating birds and other wildlife. They have to eat too. It is no different than a hawk killing a smaller bird. "

    MEOW wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:43 PM:

    " No doubt that any animal lover has ID made for their pets so they could reunite with them if they get lost or found. But pets have the right to roam freely just like people. Pet cats do roam at night, and they play a huge role of getting rid creatures such as mice, rats etc... If a neighbor complains about cats roaming in their yard, maybe they should roam at night to do what cats do. Try to appreciate what these animals do. "

    anon wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:51 AM:

    " I dont think we have leash laws for cats. If it isnt against the law for cats to roam freely then I cant imagine it would be legal to capture someone elses cat, whether you used a cage with bait in it or just grabbed it and put it in the cage. You just better watch yourself because catching peoples pets could be a pretty serious offense both in civil liability and neighborly relations. If it was my pet I certainly would be asking the pound who turned it in and under what circumstances. "

    Dumb wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:28 AM:

    " I think we should make it mandatory to license kids too! With random kids roaming around in other people’s yards and on public property, I want the ability to trap them too! And then when I turn them over to authorities, they should put them down if they are ill-tempered, which most of them are! That'll solve the issues in SV for sure! "

    simplyme wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:06 AM:

    " my cat is indoor/outdoor and I don't mind paying for a license at all. I want someone to call me, better than being roadkill. We have called animal control reference feral cats and were told to "buy" our own traps. I love birds too! Rod refers to cats eating the neighbor's birds...what is a bird doing out that a cat can get it? If you are talking about a finch in their tree/yard that is NOT their bird. While you are at it respond to those Javelina, BisbeePD told me they were here before I was. "

    Walt wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:59 AM:

    " Cats, as any pets, should be licensed and kept on the pet owners premises. If they are allowed to roam the neighborhood freely then the owner has no idea of the litters born outside the home and on other properties. I think the cat owner should bear the burden of responsibility for their pet. Why should other peoples flower beds or gardens be used by these cats as outhouses or litter boxes? I bet some cat owners never see their cats except on the occasion when they are not roaming the neighborhood. Some dog owners forgot they own dogs too. "

    Here Kitty Kitty wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:31 AM:

    " Getting an ordinance like that passed might be almost as easy as hearding cats. "

    Ghost Writer wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:09 AM:

    " Male cats will urinate everywhere and on anything. Regardless if domestic or feral. "

    anon wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:58 AM:

    " I dont mind the licensing, but it seems like the article is implying that cats would not be allowed to roam freely. Are you asking for cats to be leashed? If thats what you want you should be honest and say it outright. Silly people. "

    first svian wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:35 AM:

    " not only cat owners, but parents should have to license their children and keep them out of other's property also! they are just as much a menace and problem as any pet is....unless of course you keep them indoors all the time...and not many parents do. boy this concept shows just how hard the county and city is for money and will stoop to anything...what not enough building permits being taken out right now? "

    old desert bat wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:34 AM:

    " Another stupidly divisive issue. Great. The county attorney and the board of supervisors are a joke. This cuts it: from now on, every time I have an opportunity to work or vote against anyone currently in either office, I will. This has nothing to do with the real animal abuse that occurs here: dogs left chained without water, horses with no shelter from the sun, puppy mills, etc. What a complete waste of time and tax money: responding to complaints of "cats eating the neighbors birds." There's a reason this would be the first county to do this. "

    Bird Watcher wrote on Aug 26, 2008 6:36 AM:

    " Cat owners should have to license them. "

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