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Testimony begins in sentencing of man charged in shooting

By Jonathon Shacat
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Saturday, Aug 16, 2008 - 05:22:48 am MST

BISBEE — A Cochise County Superior Court judge listened to some testimony Friday afternoon regarding the sentencing of a man charged with shooting his neighbor, but due to limited time on the court’s calendar, the hearing will continue Monday morning.

Ronald D. Koch was charged with two counts of aggravated assault and three counts of endangerment for firing a handgun during a disagreement in Elfrida on Aug. 13, 2007. Joshawa Liest was struck twice, and three other people in the area were endangered.

Koch entered into a plea agreement in May, pleading guilty to attempting to commit an aggravated assault upon Liest using a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument. The remaining counts will be dismissed.

According to the agreement, Koch faces a presumptive prison term of 2 1/2 years. He could be sentenced to as little as one year or as much as 3 3/4 years. Probation of up to four years is available as a sentencing option.



Koch claims Liest had harassed and threatened him for months. He thought Liest was reaching behind his back for a gun to shoot him. He says he shot Liest because he feared for his life, according to the pre-sentence report.

Liest did not attend the hearing on Friday. But he told the Herald/Review in December that he was surprised when Koch shot him. Liest claimed he did not reach for a gun, and he said there was no reason for Koch to shoot.

Koch works as a street performer in Tombstone. A few of his friends testified he is a gentleman and he is well-received in the community. One friend called Koch’s actions on the day of the shooting “an unexplained anomaly.”

Nancy Flowers, Koch’s girlfriend, said they started dating in the spring of 2006. She said at first Koch seemed relaxed, but by the spring of 2007, he had become nervous and worried as a result of the actions of his neighbor — Liest.

Koch was president of an association that maintains the water for his house and some neighbors, including Liest. Flowers testified Liest was behind on his water payments and as a result Koch felt intimidated by him. And, she said, on one occasion at Koch’s home, she heard gunfire on Liest’s property.

Otmar Schwestak, who is one of the victims, testified he had returned home on Aug. 13, 2007, when he saw Liest walk across the yard and start talking to Koch near their property line. Schwestak said he heard two gunshots and Koch yell, “I am going to kill you.” He saw Liest running away and then saw Koch shoot two more times.

Schwestak said he and two of Liest’s children could have been injured or killed if the bullets had hit them. He acknowledged that Liest is a “big guy” and that a smaller person could feel intimidated by him. But, Schwestak said, Koch did not need to shoot Liest.

Koch claims he only fired twice, according to his defense attorney, Joseph DiRoberto. According to the pre-sentence report, when the gun was recovered, the lead detective in the case noted there were two expended shell casings in the cylinder.

As a result of the shooting, Liest suffered a fracture in his left humerus bone. A medical decision was made not to perform surgery to repair the damage or remove the bullet fragments, according to the pre-sentence report.

Friday’s hearing started at 1:30 p.m. and it was still ongoing at about 4 p.m. Another case was scheduled to be heard Friday afternoon, so Judge Wallace Hoggatt decided to continue the Koch hearing until Monday at 9 a.m.

JONATHON SHACAT can be reached at 515-4693 or by e-mail at jonathon.shacat@bisbeereview.net.



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    Kaci Schwestak wrote on Aug 19, 2008 9:26 AM:

    " My father told the truth. He has from the very beginning when he gave the same statement to the police. Four shots were fired. The so called gun that has found was found MONTHS later. Plenty of time for Koch or one of his "friends" to clean the weapon and fire two shots out of it. Listen to all the facts before you trust a man that would shot a father in front of his two year old daughter and his four year old son. "

    in the know wrote on Aug 17, 2008 1:53 PM:

    " According to ARS 13-411, A.A person is justified in threatening or using both physical force and deadly physical force against another if and to the extent the person *reasonably believes* that physical force or deadly physical force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's commission of... aggravated assault under section 13-1204, subsection A, paragraph 1 and 2. B. There is no duty to retreat. "

    Send him away for a LONG time wrote on Aug 17, 2008 7:17 AM:

    " Theses two CiR (Criminals in Training) posed a great menace to the community, and society as a whole, while offered little to nothing of valve in return. They’d already dropped out of school and were burglarizing homes. While I feel sorry for the families, these young men chose the path that lead to this incident. No, they didn’t “just make a mistake”, they KNOWINGLY made CHOICES that ended this way. "

    To simple wrote on Aug 16, 2008 8:53 PM:

    " Can you comprend what was written in the article? Koch entered into a plea agreement in May, pleading guilty to attempting to commit an aggravated assault upon Liest using a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument. That wasn't a charge? "

    V Earp wrote on Aug 16, 2008 6:59 PM:

    " Well from what I have heard in the courts and other places Mr.Koch was Thought his life was in danger and he has the god given right to protect it as for Mr. Schwestak saying there where 4 shots fired lets look at his statment when the weapon was found According to the pre-sentence report, when the gun was recovered, the lead detective in the case noted there were two expended shell casings in the cylinder so who do you belive the Detective or Mr. Schwestak last time I checked it was a crime to lie in court "

    simplyme wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:21 AM:

    " Judy, there are different charges involved here, the man wouldn't be guilty of a "shooting" because that is not a "charge", there are all kinds of "shootings". This man was charged with: two counts of aggravated assault and three counts of endangerment for firing a handgun. He Plead down to "attempting to commit an aggravated assaut" which was not a "charge". Sounds like it was a miracle no one was hurt, Thank God. "

    Judy wrote on Aug 16, 2008 8:14 AM:

    " Your title on this article suggests this man is only charged. He pled guilty so shouldn't the title be "sentencing of man guilty of shooting?" Current title leads to wrong conclusion. "

    Non believer wrote on Aug 16, 2008 6:15 AM:

    " Otmar Schwestak sure heard a few more shoots than there actually were. Maybe it was the echo's. "

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