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Published/Last Modified on Friday, Apr 18, 2008 - 05:18:47 am MST

On Your Mind is the Herald/Review’s telephone opinion line and is intended as a public forum for our readers. Comments represent the opinions of callers and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the newspaper or any specific knowledge that we have. Readers may share their opinions by calling 458-0332, or by e-mail to svhoym@transedge.com or regular mail at 102 Fab Ave., Sierra Vista AZ 85635. Please keep comments less than 90 seconds. Comments are edited.




April 7

Why do we have 75,000 occupation troops in Germany, 36,000 in South Korea, and many more throughout the world while we’re rotating the National Guard and our regular Army into Iraq, some for the third and fourth time?



The Herald is to be commended for its efforts in bringing an awareness of the critical issue of water conservation. An article in the February National Geographic magazine indicated the research predicts that the Southwest will have a dust bowl condition by mid-century. That could mean that by then our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will not have a sustainable environment. What a legacy Sierra Vista will be leaving for future generations. The present destruction of desert vegetation by developers with the blessing of city government will hasten that day. Why don’t the final plans from the Planning Commission include desert plants, flowers, and trees — vegetation that can sustain itself with minimum amounts of water? Not only will the city become a beautiful desert environment, but drip irrigation can also be eliminated. It’s very important that we not have those irrigation systems. They are a waste of our water supply and would not be needed if Sierra Vista would have a mandatory desert vegetation plan for the developers.

I’m calling in reference to the OYM comments about taxicabs. I own the largest taxi company in Sierra Vista. It’s called Transportation Express. The phone number is 459-7778. You can reach me at 520-249-4768 for more details.

April 8

It was a chilly, cloudy day in Washington. And it was just as chilly and just as cloudy inside the Senate hearing room on Capitol Hill, where David Petreaus and Ryan Crocker delivered their long-awaited mid-year assessment of George W. Bush’s surge in Iraq. The grim-faced Petreaus summed up things succinctly: “We haven’t turned any corners. We haven’t seen any lights at the end of the tunnel. The champagne bottle’s been pushed to the back of the refrigerator.” Perhaps what was most in evidence on Tuesday was the nation’s sense of exhaustion over Iraq. It was on the faces of every legislator, even those who have been most avidly supportive of the president. It was on the faces of Petreaus and Crocker, the military-diplomatic “dream team.” No one seemed to have the fight in them — even Clinton — to take the two of them on. McCain, who had the most at stake in the lack of good news, wore an even grimmer visage than Petreaus. Scratching for good news, he settled on the most positive note he could muster. ”We’re no longer staring into the abyss,” he said before launching into detailed questioning. Mission accomplished.

I’d like to sincerely thank whoever found my black checking wallet in a Fry’s shopping cart last Wednesday night and put it in the passenger side of the car closest to the cart corral fully intact. Even though the car was not mine, the owner of the car got a hold of me and let me know the wallet had found her. Even after a day of frantic calls to cancel credit cards, etc. (and a sleepless night) to receive that call, needless to say, “made my day.” Thank you to two honest people.

To the individual who thought the Herald is publishing OYMs, critical of Barack Obama, as phoned in by the local Republican Party, I hope you aren’t in the habit of having hallucinations. I, for one, do not work or phone for the local Republican headquarters. The Herald does have readers who can think for themselves and put two and two together — that Barack Obama is appearing less than authentic. His promise of government largesse can be intriguing. But after analysis, it all amounts to the usual Democratic mantra we hear every four years. The largesse carries a price tag. And Obama’s math is questionable. Too many economists are at odds with him about how such an astronomical bill will be paid. The usual mantra, that the top 1 percent — those earning more than $250,000 — is going to pay for it with higher taxes, falls miserably short of the amount required. If he’s really sincere about all the government handouts he wants to give us, then he should at least tell us the truth. Economists are agreed the only way he can pay the gigantic price tag is to raise taxes on all of us.

There is a shoe store in Sierra Vista that apparently has gone out of business. They are still listed in the phone book and still have an ad there. But when you call you get a busy signal or no one answers. When another shoe company on Highway 92 went out of business they would at least answer their phone and say, “I’m sorry, we’re going out of business.” What is wrong with answering your phone so you can let people know that? No wonder you’re going out of business if you treat people like that.

I’m calling in reference to the AMVETS organization of Sierra Vista. I just received a solicitation call from a young man who started out very politely. When I told him we already contributed, we were retired and could only contribute to one organization at this time, he promptly hung up on me. I would like to say I would never, ever give anything to them now even if I could afford it. I was very polite with him, but when I denied him a contribution he slammed the phone down.

I believe that the collective bargaining process being conducted by (Assistant Superintendent Bill) Roach as human resources director of the Sierra Vista public schools should be investigated by the school board. I do not believe the transactions being made are in the best interest of the district. Also, I do not believe there is sincerity on the administration’s part to best represent the interests of the public schools in Sierra Vista. Investigation by the school board and possibly attendance at these meetings would be recommended and I whole-heartedly hope this will further influence the board to double check all figures that are represented as the meet-and-confer process goes before the school board shortly.

Wind farm on Mule Mountain: I can’t wait until the hypocritical “not in my backyard” people start writing about this. Remember the Kennedy clan of Massachusetts who wanted “green energy” pushed until a wind farm was to be placed 23 miles away from their compound? They objected to it because it would interfere with their sailing on the bay. Let’s talk of the oil lying under the Dakotas that is more economical than those few noisy wind turbines.

Kudos to Trudy Berry and her staff for a beautiful teacher of the year award banquet. You made us all feel honored and special. We appreciate everything that you do for the teachers in Cochise County, Mrs. Berry.

All religions without exception are cults. The situation in Eldorado, Texas, is just another shining example of this concept. Let’s all practice spirituality, not religion.

This is in regard to today’s newspaper on the guest worker program. It seems like everybody is so up in arms about illegal immigrants not being able to have these jobs and that these businesses will not have workers. Why don’t we require our welfare recipients to get jobs? That’s why they’re on welfare most of them because they can’t find a job supposedly. The jobs are out there, so let’s just give them the jobs and we won’t have to worry about illegal immigrants.

This is for AA Cab owner Rick and driver Papa John. Where are you? Do you have a new phone number? If so, please call OYM at 458-0332 and give them your number. We desperately need you.

April 9

Reference the recent fatal motorcycle wrecks is Sierra Vista. Firstly, my heart felt condolences go out to the friends and families of the fallen riders. Having said that, I am tired of the press making an issue of whether a rider involved in a wreck is wearing a helmet. Arizona law is clear a helmet is optional if the rider is over the age of 18, therefore it is irrelevant to the wreck. I am more interested in what the driver of the van involved in Saturday’s (April 5) accident was doing that caused her not to see a 700-pound Harley in broad daylight on a clear, four-lane divided road. Why was she only cited with a relatively minor traffic violation for killing a man through her negligence? It appears that a biker’s life isn’t worth a whole lot in this town if they aren’t wearing a helmet. Almost gives the impression the biker’s death is his fault since he chose to obey the law. I am sick and tired of burying my brothers and sisters who have died in defense of the public’s right to drive like idiots.

To the boss of the young woman who was working in a fast-food restaurant in the mall at approximately 1 p.m. on Wednesday, April 9. Do you know that she is constantly on the phone while serving customers? Do you know how unsanitary that is and how rude that is? Perhaps if she got off the phone and attended to her business the counter would not be so filthy. Suggest you, as her boss, have a heart to heart talk with her about sanitation and manners when serving the public.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Any time a customer has a problem with service, he or she should contact the manager directly.

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    Billy Hill wrote on May 3, 2008 4:34 PM:

    " I just can't figure how he can have Joe Loserman on one shoulder (obviusly his left) and Rev. Hagee on the other. "

    To Billy Hill wrote on May 2, 2008 7:05 PM:

    " That report states that John Hagee's endorsement poses risks to John McCain's Campaign. It never made the assertion that John Hagee of San Antonio is Sen John McCain's (R) (from Arizona) "spiritual advisor". I certainly agree with MSNBC's assessment and that he should repudiate John Hagee's endorsement. He certainly doesn't need the support of some religious fanatical to appeal to voters. John Hagee is a fanatical who has expressed hatred towards Catholics and Jews. He makes statements that the US has brought terrorism to its soil because of the policies against the Palestinians. "

    Billy Hill wrote on May 2, 2008 3:34 PM:

    " They played it on MSNBC last night.
    Sorry if you missed it "

    To Billy Hill wrote on May 2, 2008 9:39 AM:

    " I didn't know Sen McCain stated he had a "spiritual advisor" as well. Please provide the reference. I'm interested in seeing that statement. "

    Billy Hill wrote on May 1, 2008 7:22 PM:

    " Senator McCains "spiritual advisor" told us that Harry Potter books are a Precursor to Satanism. "

    Wow wrote on May 1, 2008 4:57 PM:

    " Winston, this story has been picked up by the huffington post as well. It seems to be building a head of steam. Billy, does Oprah profess that Rev Wright is her spiritual mentor? I didn't know she had. It certainly raises legitimate questions that should be asked of a presidential hopeful. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9570.html
    http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/ "

    Winston Smith wrote on May 1, 2008 10:17 AM:

    " The Rev. Wright didn't do it single handed. Apparently that appearence was arrainged by the Clinton Campaign which may have even paid him to appear.
    Talk about Race Baiting "

    Winston Smith wrote on May 1, 2008 7:39 AM:

    " To Wow, You are using Joe Loserman as a source to call Obama a Communist. That's as silly as the Washington Times, which is owned by the Unification Church which worships the Reverend Moon calling those people in Texas a cult.
    I seem to recall Loserman was Gores running mate. "

    Billy Hill wrote on Apr 30, 2008 9:45 PM:

    " Is Oprah a Communist, he's her pastor too "

    Wow wrote on Apr 28, 2008 12:26 PM:

    " It looks like Jeremiah Wright has opened the door to more scrutiny on Barrack Obama's true agenda. It appears that Jeremiah preaches Black Liberalism Theology as described by James Cone. Cone was an advocate of the Marxist revolution movement in Latin America and a supporter of the Black Panther group. So the questions being asked, since Jeremiah Wright is Obama's spiritual mentor...is Obama a Marxist? Wow. http://liberalland.com/2008/04/15/is-obama-a-marxist-lieberman-says-good-question/
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=c19d4d91-618e-40d3-a5d9-c07d7a87a5ba
    http://leaningstraightup.com/2008/03/17/we-know-wright-inspires-obama-but-who-inspires-wright-james-cone/ "

    You Go Jeremiah wrote on Apr 28, 2008 9:07 AM:

    " You go Jeremiah! Continue to open your mouth and insert your foot. If Sen Obama loses his candidacy for the Democratic Party you won't have anyone to blame but yourself. Sen Obama was doing fine until you stuck you head in the picture to grab your 15 min of fame. I'm sure you will blame it on the "dominant culture" for attacking the "black church", but you know the issue sits squarely on your shoulder. You go Jeremiah...Maybe your intent is to derailed the first legitimate chance for a Black man to run for the highest office in the Nation. "

    Not so Wright wrote on Apr 26, 2008 2:21 PM:

    " Funny how Reverend Wright can't understand that this is not about him. He also needs to know that he is doing more harm than good by dredging this thing up again. It seems he is determined to undo Senator Obamas candidacy singlehanded "

    appalled wrote on Apr 25, 2008 8:47 PM:

    " Funny how a couple of out-of-context sound bites have convinced millions of white Americans that Jeremiah Wright is a racist. Nothing could be further from the truth! The media never reports that Wright is a proud Marine and served his country in many other ways. They never tell you that his best friend is a white man. You cannot point to anything he has ever said that is racist or unpatriotic! Stop letting the media think for you! "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 25, 2008 3:15 PM:

    " Don't pick on Pauly, he suffers from CRS (Carl Rove Syndrome), a form of Terets that causes Republicans to have to belittle anyone who differs with them. "

    Jan wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:05 AM:

    " Hey Pauly,
    It looks like you need to get a life. How RUDE to call someone a foolish old man, doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with him, that's just plain RUDE!
    Maybe you should use all the time you spend on here doing something constructive, maybe helpong someone less fortunate, maybe it would turn you into a nicer person! "

    To Lee wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:02 AM:

    " Who's party are you referring to? I don't associate myself with any party. I'm an independent. It is your party that has alienated people like me from voting the party line. I'll vote for who I think will fix our country through bi-partisan means. I was simply pointing out that you have a slanted view of things with your hardline left wing views. Not everything you read on Moveon.Org is true. I'm surprised you didn't know Strom Thurmond was a Democrat. I almost keeled over. These next URLs are for the benefit of History Student. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond
    http://www.answers.com/topic/civil-rights-act-of-1964?cat=biz-fin "

    Lee wrote on Apr 24, 2008 6:45 AM:

    " If the republicans are as magnanamous as you say, why do they today constantly vote to cut programs to help those who simply need it. The reasons I stated are the biggest reasons for declaring bankruptcy, not poor choices. A catastrophic illness can cost millions, no working person can prepare for that, and insurance coverage is limited. The problem is your party has been taken over by the people John Dean refers to as "Conservatives Without Conscience." This book would be very enlightening to you. "

    History Student wrote on Apr 23, 2008 2:11 PM:

    " Why don't you people do any real research. If you use some "off the wall" website that is definately slanted in one direction or another; then eveything that you build off of that research is flawed. Just because the website is posted by Johns Hopkins University-when it says its a blog site for students-its just that, a blog site. Real research reveals the truth, these sites that people on this "blog" keep quoting, do nothing more than propogate somebody else's opinions. Once you actually find the TRUTH, please bother to write that. Thanks "

    To Lee wrote on Apr 23, 2008 8:49 AM:

    " The party of Strom Thurmond was the Democratic Party up until 1964 after the Civil Rights Act was passed. Senator Byrd, a former Klansman filibustered against the civil rights bill for 14 hours before the final vote. Only 6 Republicans voted against the bill. "

    To Lee wrote on Apr 22, 2008 6:29 PM:

    " That's exactly what I stated below. It was the Southern Democrats who opposed civil rights. You might want to check you history. Stom Thurmond was a Democrat until 1964 after the Civil Rights Act was past. He along with Democrat Senators Sam Ervin Albert Gore Sr., and Robert opposed civil rights act. You aren't so delusional to think that the Democratic party is made up of only liberals are you? The south is full of conservative democrats. Sam Nunn was a conservative democrat. Read the URL I posted. LBJ worked with the Republican minority to pass the Civil Rights Act. "

    gloria wrote on Apr 22, 2008 3:27 PM:

    " We all know about trying to save water.
    I would love to do my share BUT according to my water company (bella vista) I get charged almost $20.00 a month for water usage wether I use it or not. I actually only use about $10. 00. Where is the fairness here? How can I do my part, pay for something I don't use, times are tough I can't afford it, can you? "

    Lee wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:38 AM:

    " Better check your history, the party of Strom Thurmond hardly introduced or even supported civil rights legislation. Remember the quote from LBJ when he said "By passing civil rights legislation the democratic party has lost the south for a generation." "

    Billy Hill wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:43 PM:

    " So "forcibly transferring children" of a "Religious Group" of Polygamist Cult with the aim of destroying that group would be genocide.

    Well Seig Hiel Y'all "

    To Lee wrote on Apr 21, 2008 6:39 PM:

    " If you are talking about the conservative Democrats of the Jim Crowe era, I would agree; however, the conservative Republicans were the ones that introduced the Civil Rights act at the objection of a Democratic Congress that supported segregation. Labor unions had a place during the industrial revolution; however, their ideas and tactics are antiquated and hurt laborers rather than help them. I should have said "social progressives" you'll find a movement that puts collective rights above individual rights. I don't deny most liberals are religious. I was referring to southern religious right activist or Republican base. http://www.gopusa.com/opinion/mz_0808.shtml "

    To Pauly wrote on Apr 21, 2008 6:16 PM:

    " The last reports I saw was that their was a false claim that is being investigated. If they find this was a false claim then probably cause goes out the window. Any evidence they find as a result of that false claim can't be used in court. Had they done a proper investigation before storming the compound they may have been able to build a case; but as it stands right now the Texas authorities have egg on their face. "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 21, 2008 1:56 PM:

    " following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group:

    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
    – Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article II

    "

    Pauly wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:59 AM:

    " Thanks "To", that was a mouthful, thanks for clearing that up. Now explain to these fine confused folks that like it or not there was probable cause. That they were/are breaking our laws. It very much appears that female children were abused and are at risk. And the investigation continues. "

    Lee wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:48 AM:

    " You say individual rights have always been a conservative view point? I beg to differ. Conservatives opposed civil rights, the equal rights amendment, the establishment of labor unions, and equal educational opportunity while they support placing limits on the most personal aspects of life. If you look up progressive and socialistic in a dictionary you will find big differences in their definitions. Lastly, most liberal are religious. They support religious freedom, not using religion as an excuse to take away individual rights. "

    To Pauly wrote on Apr 21, 2008 7:38 AM:

    " Religious rights have always been a conservative view point. Individual rights have always been a libertarian (not neo liberal) and conservative view point. Big Government and socialistic policies have always been a socialistic Progressive view point. It seems you have centrist views so you not everything you disagree with is a leftist, neo liberal or socialist Progressive view point. So when you disagree with someone who believes in Religious rights you are disagreeing with either a conservative or a libertarian who objects on the grounds of individual Constitutional rights protected in the Bill of Rights. "

    Lee wrote on Apr 20, 2008 7:40 PM:

    " To "Why Is It:" As I said, torture has been proven to an extremely unreliable means to gain accurate information. Our own military will tell you the same thing. The use of torture by the Bush administration is part of why we are held in such low esteem by the rest of the world. And Pauly, this same Bush administration made lying a part of their daily discourse, then they hide behind "National Security" or "Executive Privilege" when the truth is presented. Needless to say, there are no liberals in this administration. "

    Arthur Dent wrote on Apr 20, 2008 5:08 PM:

    " Apparently Pauly brands everyone who doesn't agree with him a "Liberal" no matter how Conservative or Liberterian thier views. Until he turns off FOX """NEWS""" it will be useless to try to make sense of what he's saying. "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 20, 2008 1:40 PM:

    " Langer, so if someone you never met, in another state, calls Child Protective Services and says you have a Meth Lab in your home, they can bust in and sieze your children.
    Then even when there is no Meth Lab you have to sue to get your kids back.
    Sieg heil! "

    Billy Hill wrote on Apr 20, 2008 1:35 PM:

    " Those are the rules WE set forth as International Law after World War II.
    We even hanged enemy soldiers and politicians for engaging in it before it was the law.
    American Soldiers were tried and convicted of Waterboarding during the Phillipine Insurrection and Vietnam.
    The enemy does not obey the rules, then again one of our allies executed 1,200 prisoners in one afternoon. "

    Pauly wrote on Apr 20, 2008 11:46 AM:

    " Hey Lee, learned a long time ago. Get five liberals to lie about the same subject (easy) and if you filter it correctly, you wind up with the truth anyway. And that's saying something coming from a liberal. "

    Why is it... wrote on Apr 20, 2008 11:02 AM:

    " that it's unacceptable for our gov't to use torture? If it meant that innocent lives would be saved or that other people might go free, why is it wrong? This is not an ordinary war we are fighting people! And when are you going to realize that? Our enemy does not "play" by the rules and never will...so why are we trying to? And even when we do play by the rules, we're still critisized. So who gives a rats behind? I say, Kill em all!(sarcasm heavily used in last sentence) "

    Lee wrote on Apr 20, 2008 6:25 AM:

    " Pauly, I'm glad you realize it's the liberals who oppose torture while conservatives approve it. Then realize torture has proven to be an extremely unreliable method of obtaining factual information. "

    Pauly wrote on Apr 20, 2008 6:23 AM:

    " Hey Willie, Four words: Ongoing investigation. You'll see. See no insult but not as much fun. "

    Langer wrote on Apr 19, 2008 11:09 PM:

    " When Child Protective Services receives a complaint/report (even anonymous), they don't need any more evidence. They can come into home, inspect, and if they find anything that concerns them they can remove the children. They can call on law enforcement to assist them as needed. Their investigation is initiated immediately and evidence is gathered on the run.

    While this may seem to be rash, it's better than finding a dead child.

    The CPS workers in Texas are doing just what they're supposed to be doing.
    "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 19, 2008 5:31 PM:

    " I can only assume that the Police State of Texas will be taking custody of all children born to mothers under the age of 18. "

    Andrea Kowalchik wrote on Apr 19, 2008 3:11 PM:

    " Sierra has such nice places to go for walks. I love Veterants park and so does my little dog.
    However....I wish the garder club in Sierra Vista, or some other organization, would find a place there to plant some roses and maybe a few other flowers. I would love it as maybe others would too. "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 19, 2008 9:27 AM:

    " Arrests for Polygamy=0
    Arrests for Statuatory Rape=0
    Raids on religious compounds based on fraudulent warrants=1

    Score one for the Police State

    Notice how I did that without needing to insult you Pauly "

    Arthur Dent wrote on Apr 19, 2008 8:56 AM:

    " Don't you just love it when defending the rights of the individual is liberal and defending the government interference is somehow conservative. "

    Foolish Old Man wrote on Apr 19, 2008 7:25 AM:

    " Hey Pauly, don't drag me into this. Carl Rove Syndrome still isn't pretty. "

    Pauly wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:36 AM:

    " I just knew my comment about torture would bring the liberals out. LOL! Hey, Willie! As for the Texas Mormons Bill of Rights, if you pay attention, they are being observed. Probable cause right? You'll see. Any of you compasionate liberals wanna adobt a brainwashed pregnant preteen? "

    interesting...hmmm wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:56 PM:

    " It is interesting that so many people made snap judgements about this religious sect before the facts came out. The raid was initiated by a false claim of abuse and the local law enforcement raided the compound without a proper investigation into the allegations. Is this the type of justice we want in America? Isn't this a Nazi style tactic? Isn't this how the Jews were targeted in Nazi Germany? We have laws that protect us and our religious believes from this type of persecution. If laws were being broken then a proper investigation would have led to charges. "

    Sniveling Malcontent wrote on Apr 18, 2008 5:15 PM:

    " So a fraudulent call alleging abuse by a man who doesn't even live on the compound comes in, suddenly the forces of democracy, armed with Armoured Personnel Carriers, Machine Guns and warrants made out ahead of time decend upon the village and take away the children.
    Now that this fraud has been exposed Ms Meisner, who had planned to build her career on the backs of these people, will be going into Janet Reno defense of WACO mode. "

    Arthur Dent wrote on Apr 18, 2008 5:09 PM:

    " How in the world is defending these victims of a Police Raid Liberal. Under you contorted view somehow big government crushing religion is conservative. "

    Lee wrote on Apr 18, 2008 3:02 PM:

    " Pauly, There is extensive documentation that we are involved in torture. Are you familiar with what is called "Extraordinary Rendition?" Bush recently revealed he supports the use of torture. "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 18, 2008 2:57 PM:

    " It's Winston, Pauly. I don't know those people in Texas and the Bill of Rights prevents me from passing judgement on thier religion. As for torture, during both the Phillipine Insurrection and the Vietnam War US Soldiers were Court Martialled and convicted of torture for Water Boarding "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:08 AM:

    " How convenient that the authorities from San Angelo just happened to have armoured personnel carriers from Midland, hundreds of miles away, and sherriffs in full combat gear standing by when this "Victim" called in! "

    Billy Hill wrote on Apr 18, 2008 11:03 AM:

    " To "it's not about jobs"; What do you base your statement on? Some actual statistic or just hatred of some stereotyped people you don't even know.
    "

    Pauly wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:21 AM:

    " Hey Wilson, their practices under the guise of religion are very much against our laws and may be just plain child abuse. So do you support child abuse? Is that one of your liberal rants! Breaking our laws is OK too huh! And we don’t torture anyone you foolish old man! "

    Lee wrote on Apr 18, 2008 9:41 AM:

    " I am no bigger fan of welfare than you, but you misstate the problem. A program called Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) gets most of the money. It's purpose is to see that children don't starve. This program is available to low income working people, those who don't make enough to get by; their numbers are growing. It is of course impossible to monitor each family to see how the money is spent. Raising the minimum wage would help a great deal, but yes, there will always be cheats.
    "

    Arthur Dent wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:48 AM:

    " Well the breaking story seems to be that the abused 16 year old in that Texas Compound turns out to be one Rosita Swinton from Colorado Springs who is under arrest for making fals Phone calls. "

    Winston Smith wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:29 AM:

    " Patriotism seems to boil down to a "Support our troops" magnet and a flag lapel pin, meanwhile Armoured Personnel Carriers full of Jack Booted Thugs descend on a town and take away thier children because of thier religious practices.
    There was a day in America when this would have caused outrage, but in an America which turns a blind eye to torture, I guess I'm just out of date. "

    Billy Hill wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:22 AM:

    " It's not just at the mall, the other day I had to wait in two different lines while employees engaged in extended conversations with family members on the telephone. Where are thier supervisors? Someone should tell them they are not being paid while they are on the phone for personal calls. "

    It's not about jobs wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:10 AM:

    " (Most)welfare recipients aren't on welfare because they can't find jobs, they're on welfare because they don't want to work. Why should they? Someone takes care of them at a standard of living that's acceptable to them. If you told them to to show up to work, they just wouldn't. Unfortunately, we're much too 'civilized' to tell them they're welcome to die in the street if they don't wish to contribute. Does anyone but me wonder how our country will afford the growing numbers of welfare recips and for how long we plan to support that behavior? "

    Lee wrote on Apr 18, 2008 5:59 AM:

    " To the person questioning Senator Obama's economic plan. It's very interesting to me that the republican party, who is responsible for the greatest debt in history, now asks how a democrat will pay for something. Of the nine trillion dollar plus debt incurred by this nation since 1776, seventy percent of it was incurred by three presidents. Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II. "

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