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SV fire chief finalists aim for step up; they see career and other challenges in city’s department

By Gentry Braswell
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 - 06:10:55 am MST

SIERRA VISTA — Two are from within the Sierra Vista Fire Department.

Two others are from within Arizona.

And two others are from outside the state.

But all six are finalists to become Sierra Vista’s next fire chief.



The finalists — Randy Redmond, Ron York, Ernie Encinas, Jayme Kahle, Phil Davis and Robert Hudson — are scheduled to have their interview panels on Feb. 12.

It’s a step in the process of finding someone to succeed Bruce Thompson, who retired last fall after being the city’s top firefighter since 1985. Twenty-one people applied for the job, and city officials narrowed the list to six in mid-January.

City Manager Chuck Potucek said the interview panels will include the city manager and assistant city manager, the city human resources manager, the police chief, and the Prescott fire chief, who will give an out-of-town perspective.

Potucek will make the final decision on who is selected.

“Obviously deputy chief or fire chief experience,” Potucek said of what is being sought in the next fire chief. “And there are a lot of certifications in the business. A lot of the applicants are close in their level of qualifications. They’re all highly qualified applicants, so other than that, I’m looking for the best fit — somebody with a good vision for where the department needs to go in the future.”

He said the choice will be made to improve as much as possible what is already a fine city fire department.

With the city’s third fire station already under construction, a potential new deal with the Fry Fire District for more integrated service between it and the city, and ongoing streamlining of city communications service with state and county communications, there will be many challenges for the next fire chief.

The process may not end after the finalists’ are interview later this month.

“It depends on how the first round goes, and if there’s not a clear-cut choice after that, then we’ll have a second round of interviews,” said Potucek, who added he doesn’t personally know the four candidates from outside of Sierra Vista.

From within

the department

Interim Chief Randy Redmond and Interim Deputy Chief Ron York are the two candidates from within the department.

“I grew up in Sierra Vista and it’s essentially my hometown. It means much more to me than just a job,” Redmond said. “I’ve spent the last 25-plus years serving our community in every position in the fire department, and have spent the last 22 years preparing myself to be a fire chief.”

While Redmond could retire and take his pension, he’s not ready to call it quits. He wants to take his career to the next level.

“The fire service is a very dedicated career, but I’m truly impassioned to work within our community,” he said. “Sierra Vista is a great place, and I have such a wonderful network of friends and colleagues, it compels me to continue to serve. Who knows for how long? Probably five to 10 years at least. By the grace of God and good luck and hard work, with the support of my family and the many people in and around this state, I truly appreciate this opportunity.”

Redmond received a bachelor of science degree from the University of Phoenix in 1999, and his master of science degree from Grand Canyon University last year. He’s been the deputy fire chief since 2002, and was the training officer/battalion chief from 1999 to 2002.

York has been the training officer/battalion chief since 2004 with the Sierra Vista Fire Department.

He received a bachelor of science degree in fire administration at Cogswell Polytechnic College last year, and his master’s degree from Grand Canyon University this year.

“I think once you get into a supervisory position, the added responsibility and the ability that you have to impact the department makes you feel good. A lot of times I do, I do want to do more,” York said. “This is my department. It’s the only department I’ve worked for. I love it. The higher you go, the more impact you have — the more ability you have to get things done, and I think I have the ability to positively impact the people. We’ve got good people here. We’re such a good organization, and I think we can be stronger with a little positive re-enforcement. A positive approach to everything we do.”

From within Arizona

Since 1997, Ernie Encinas has been the fire marshal/assistant to the chief in Gilbert.

He also was the fire chief in Douglas from 1993 to 1997.

“Sierra Vista is a community that I had an opportunity to see and work with when I was the chief in Douglas,” he said. “It’s an up-and-coming community.”

Encinas chose to work in Douglas because he preferred Southeastern Arizona as a place to raise his children, but his family includes a special needs child that brought the family back to the Phoenix area. The kids are now older and more established, he said, and he is taking a shot at the position in Sierra Vista to bring the family back to Cochise County.

Encinas said he is also compelled by the challenge of fire service in a growing community.

He received a bachelor of science degree in 2001 and a master’s degree in 2003, both through the University of Phoenix system.

Before he was fire chief in Douglas, Encinas was the training chief in Tolleson from 1976 to 1991.

Jayme Kahle is the other finalist who is working in Arizona.

He has been assistant chief of the Northwest Fire District in Tucson since July. He was a division chief for the fire district from 2004 to 2007, and a battalion chief 2001 to 2004.

Kahle’s been with that district for 23 years.

“It’s pretty simple. I’m looking for a new challenge,” he said. “I’ve seen our department grow from a two-station operation all the way to where we’re at nine stations now. And I’m just looking for a change, and just a new challenge.”

A switch from a fire district to a city fire department would be something new to learn about, as would be the top job, Kahle said.

“I’m originally a farm boy from Ohio, and it would be kind of nice to get less big city,” he said.

Kahle received his bachelor of science from the University of Arizona in 1989, and a master of business administration degree from UA in 1994.

From outside Arizona

One of the two out-of-state finalists is Phil Davis of Carmichael, Calif., who was deputy chief at the Elk Grove (Calif.) Fire Department from 2004 to 2005. He retired after his contract was bought out.

He also was the assistant chief from 1997 to 2004 at the University of California.

“I’ve always thought that I would try to end my career in the Southwest. I just love the atmosphere in the Southwest, and I’ve been a member of the Arizona Fire Chiefs Association for about five years now, knowing that eventually I wanted to end up somewhere in Arizona,” Davis said. “In the last two departments where I worked, I was the number two, and I realize that to bump up into the fire chief’s position, I need to work with a small- to medium-sized department. When I first saw the advertisement for Sierra Vista, it looked like an attractive location and opportunity.”

Davis received a bachelor of science degree from the California State University system in 1981, and a master of public administration degree from the University of San Francisco in 1987.

Robert Hudson, deputy chief of operations and administration with the Portage Fire Department, Mich., did not immediately return a phone call requesting an interview late last week.

Hudson has been in his current position since 2001, and he was the deputy of fire services for the city of Center Line Public Safety, Mich., from 1999 to 2001, the chief of Delhi Township Fire Department, Mich., from 1994 to 1999, and the emergency services director for the Ingham County Sheriff’s Office, Mich., from 1989 to 1994.

Hudson received a bachelor of science from Siena Heights University in 2001, and a master of science degree from Grand Canyon University last year.

HERALD/REVIEW reporter Gentry Braswell can be reached at 515-4680 or by e-mail at gentry.braswell@svherald.com.



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    Tomas Gallegos wrote on Feb 17, 2008 1:32 PM:

    " Before my departure from Sierra Vista I mentioned to the city manager and the assistant city manager that all top positions in SV were manned by white males. I among others noticed that there was no diversity at the top. There are no women, latinos, asians, blacks or any other minorities at the helm. I encouraged them both to attract qualified minorities to apply for these top positions as they became open. SV has now and will in the future have similar opportunities to correct this inbalance. "

    Wake UP SV wrote on Feb 16, 2008 12:37 PM:

    " Wow, look at all these comments?? I do hope the City Manager has a wake-up call before the decision is final!! Chuck Potucek in NO way serves the community by giving Redmond this position and more “power” to misuse. Wake Up Sierra Vista!!! These comments should be voiced to the appropriate people. "

    Backbone wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:09 AM:

    " We shall see if our city manager has a backbone to investigate Redmond. Proof of cheating? In more ways than one? It concerns me to think a man like that would get a position of Fire Chief. "

    Hmmmm wrote on Feb 15, 2008 3:50 PM:

    " Given the importance of the job it's not unfair to raise issues about an applicant's character, both personal and professional. With the close relationship Redmond has to some of the people making the decision, I doubt these concerns will be raised. The firefighters may love him but that doesn't make him an honest man. And if he's not fundamentally honest, then he's a poor choice. "

    Mark C. wrote on Feb 15, 2008 11:43 AM:

    " If anyone doubts the confidence firefighters have in Chief Redmond I recommend they walk over to one of the Firehouses and talk to the firefighters themselves. Anonymous cheap shops and insinuations posted here are meaningless. "

    FEARLESS wrote on Feb 15, 2008 10:04 AM:

    " I agree with Cindy. Why not investigate the opinions of the SVFD employee’s. To bad, I thought the FD was full of hero’s? HUMM can’t even save the department. "

    Jokester wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:45 PM:

    " Looks like Cindy Myers has a bone to pick. Lets hope the city mgr. has more sense than to base anything that is written in these post. And Cindy just because someone post on here and claims to be a firefighter, doesn't make them one. "

    To Mr. Potucek wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:51 AM:

    " I hope you are reading all this Mr City Manager. From the look of the posts it would seem to me that there are some firefighters writing in some concerns that you may have overlooked. If I were in your shoes I would go to the men and women of the department and see if they have a problem with Randy becoming the new Chief. From what I have read it looks like Randy isn't the best choice. Just something to keep in mind. I don't want to see anyone leave this department. Cindy Myers "

    sticker shock wrote on Feb 13, 2008 5:40 PM:

    " Survior Firehouse, stay tune next week and see who becomes the leader and who gets booted off.

    And you thought they just put out fires and save lives... it's worst than a bunch of "old bittys" at a beauty salon.

    "

    Hmmmm wrote on Feb 13, 2008 2:53 PM:

    " I have some reason to question Redmond's character and certainly to wonder whether he can be trusted. I'd be interested to hear more about what people have to say about him. "

    Burt wrote on Feb 13, 2008 1:39 PM:

    " To "Going For:" The City Council does not "vote" on changes of leadership in any city department. That is strictly the purview of the City Manager. And even he cannot alter the leadership without just cause, unless he wants to wind up in court involved in an unfair termination case. I believe Chief Ron York is the right man for the Fire Chief position. "

    Mark C. wrote on Feb 13, 2008 12:36 PM:

    " I believe the vast majority of citizens who know anything at all about the SVFD hold Chief Redmond in very high esteem. He's done a great job as Interim Chief and I believe no one is more qualified for the job. "

    FYI wrote on Feb 13, 2008 8:59 AM:

    " Randy had the job before anyone even had a chance. Got to love the good ol boy system. Mr.Potucek has made his choice and Randy is the new Chief. You heard it here first. Congratualtions Randy, even though you really dont deserve it. "

    Change wrote on Feb 12, 2008 8:48 AM:

    " Trustworthy. A true leader cannot exist if he or she does not get to win the trust of others. Integrity and honesty are character traits that make that person remarkable and, in their absence, people would not feel they must follow the leader. A good leader practices what he or she preaches earning the right to lead others and have responsibility for them. Trustworthiness is the source of the real authority, based on the trust of other people. Randy does not posses any of the above qualities. Mike
    "

    Going For.... wrote on Feb 11, 2008 6:49 PM:

    " Change, we need change in our community and fire departments. Change is always needed once in awhile, and when was the last time our city council actually voted for change in the leadership of the fire department? This would be good all around, to bring in new ideas, and a different look at what is going on, it's hard to see whats wrong when a person looks at it all the time, because then it's normal. So change would be good for our community, for a different aspect of what we need to improve. "

    SV Resident wrote on Feb 11, 2008 12:19 PM:

    " I truly hope that the city council and city managers are reading some of these posts. I would hate to see them make th e wrong choice and lose more great firefighter and paramedics. It will be the citizens of the community that suffer the most.
    Cindy Myers "

    to: FFP wrote on Feb 11, 2008 7:37 AM:

    " You honestly don't know Randy that well. You must have been one of his good ol boys. The fact of the matter is you can't trust Randy. He truly lacks integrity. Randy has always cast judgement before gathering all the facts and many people know this, even people who are not affiliated with the department. "

    Goodyear FF wrote on Feb 10, 2008 10:19 PM:

    " I started out as a Volunteer/Reserve for Fry and worked full time as a Firefighter/Paramedic for Sierra Vista,just shy of 5 years before going to work in Goodyear (Phoenix area) over 3 years ago. There have been people that have left both departments,that is a fact.All were for various reasons and you should ask them why they left not speculate.As for the fire chief job? The only thing that should matter to the public is that Firefighters still make house calls.The job will always be done by those that selflessly serve others,whether they appreciate it or not. "

    To FFP wrote on Feb 10, 2008 5:14 PM:

    " Your glowing endorsement on the forum doesn't mean Jack. For all we know you could be the person, you are endorsing. "

    FFP wrote on Feb 10, 2008 12:05 PM:

    " First, I want to congratulate to Randy Redmond on being a finalist for fire chief. I am a former employee that worked for SVFD and would like to say that Redmond's credentials and ability to command make him more than qualified for the job and rightly deserved. The question that that needs to be answered can he lead the department though a growing phase and to that is yes. I believe his ties to the community will be his best attributes and I think he will fix the working relationship between Fry Fire district...cont on next post
    "

    To Wondering wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:17 PM:

    " Is that the kind of thinking that a fire department needs? I would seriously hope you don't work for one, as you seem to have a distorted view. I would only believe that they are applying here to be part of a smaller community, to be able to work a smaller slower paced fire department, The thinking your having , would be like asking why hasn't Redmond doesn't apply elsewhere, could it be he couldn't hack it? That sounds just as absurd! Some people just would like a change, nothing more, quit reading negatively into it! "

    To Wondering wrote on Feb 8, 2008 6:41 PM:

    " You sound like a negative thinker, how did anybody get here? I'm not native, I've yet to meet a FF who is a native AZ, so they were all outsiders at one time, so what's the problem with another coming in? Be positive, they may be the best thing for the community. "

    concerned wrote on Feb 8, 2008 6:12 PM:

    " I truley hope Mr. Encinas is not selected as Fire Chief. Maybe his past history in Douglas should be looked into a bit closer. "

    Didnt't Know wrote on Feb 8, 2008 2:13 PM:

    " That SVFD lost P. Allred, and D. Callahan to Fry, I've met D.C. and he truly is a sweetheart, and honorable man, and he does have an air of integrity, he is a huge asset to Fry. Never met P.A. though, but if both became paramedics, thats a huge plus for Fry, as that's not an easy program, good for them. I hope S.V. takes a good long look at some of the posts in here and does right by the city, as a whole, instead of some back door bargaining, and the "buddy-buddy system" that just doesn't work. "

    Wondering... wrote on Feb 8, 2008 1:38 PM:

    " Ever wonder why the "outside" people are testing here? Maybe they didn't have the great, fresh ideas at their old department. huh? What if they were run out of there? Just because they are coming here doesn't always mean they have better answers. Think about it... "

    Grow up wrote on Feb 8, 2008 11:39 AM:

    " I'd be willing to bet that none of these negative posts were submitted by random members of the community,who are overwhelmingly satisified with local fd service delivery.It's obvious that individuals affiliated(or previously so)with either Fry or SV Fire are taking faceless,below-the-belt shots in criticism of the process referenced in the article.The Phoenix metro area is comprised of a consortium of 20+ fire departments, all working together. Guys,until we grow up and put the bickering aside we'll always be 'podunk good ol' boys'.

    'Where there is unity there is always victory.' - Publilius Syrus "

    Jamie wrote on Feb 8, 2008 10:16 AM:

    " We should promote within? I don't think that anybody should be given a "gimme" just because of where they work, that's just shear stupidity. The job should be given to the most qualified, and experienced, and what they can bring to the table. And just because someone has educationd doesn't mean they are smart, some of the stupidest people I have ever met have a Masters, but lack the other qualities that would make them good leaders, like common sense. Give someone a "gimme" please, anybody with any real self respect wouldn't take a "gimme"! "

    Jarrod wrote on Feb 8, 2008 8:43 AM:

    " I would prefer to see the candidate from California get the job. Let him bring in some new ideas for our community. He has worked for a large department and our town is growing.. "

    Thomas wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:53 AM:

    " To: WITHIN

    What about the Reserves that work for them? There are some that have vested two or more years with the organization that are now going to have to test against the outside general public. If you ask me this is a slap in the face to these indaviduals and their families who have both made many sacrifices in the pursuit of becoming a full-time firefighter. They went through the process that many before them have and now Randy can hire more of his friends! "

    Tom wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:46 AM:

    " If promote within I sure hope they select Ron York. Ron is a stand up guy. I do believe he is the best candidate from the inside. From what I have heard he is there for his people and will lead the department in a good direction. But then again there is still the buddy system and he could very well promote the people he favors like others have before him. "

    From WITHIN wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:02 AM:

    " No, I'm not a firefighter and yes I am an SV resident currently living and working in D.C. "

    From WITHIN wrote on Feb 8, 2008 6:59 AM:

    " Look people these firefighters and medics put their lives on the line every day for you and they deserv a chance for advancement in their own department. How can you expect anyone to want to stay with the department if there is no upward mobility and support from the very city they protect. I have known a few of the firefighters in SV and Fry and I can tell you they are a first rate department that strives to better itself through education, training and first hand experience in YOUR CITY is a big PLUS! SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL FIREFIGHTER! "

    Mark wrote on Feb 7, 2008 1:47 PM:

    " I seriously hope that the upper managemant looks at everybody in the real light, stroking egos, and the buddy budy system does our citizents no good, its a disservice to our community to have people picked for the job, before the interviews. I really do believe we need outside people to help us move forward and bring new ideas, and inspiration to our local fire department. Change is a very good thing, especially for the general publics safety. "

    Sean wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:38 AM:

    " Get a life wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:32 AM:

    " So if Maria and LOL work at a fire department and if they happen to work at SVFD. Then maybe they should be step up to the plate and speak to the Mayor and Council members about the hiring pratices or the good ol' boy system. No guts no glory. Otherwise you're just delievering lip service. "
    Maybe they have, but upper management does not want to listen... ever thought about that... "

    To B.S. wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:33 AM:

    " Well written, finally we get a post from that was once on the inside. Get the dinosaurs out and bring on some new ideas. "

    B.S. wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:51 PM:

    " I'm retired from a local fire service, so I know the goings on within the local emergency services. It's time for a fresh look, a fresh face and fresh ideas. Nothing is going to change until we rid ourselves of these "dinosaurs" who have consistently proven a lack of integrity, loyalty, wisdom, or dedication to the service...no matter what educational degrees they bring to the table. It's simply all about them and their egos...nothing more. Masters degrees do not guarantee leadership ability. It's time the city learns the difference between schooling and true education. "

    Oh so obvious wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:18 PM:

    " 'It's a little worrisome. I'm worried that important issues can get caught up in internal bickering.'
    - Rick McAllister

    It's obvious that there are some disgruntled employees or ex-employees feverishly utilizing this nameless forum. Perhaps the root of the morale issues yoy speak of can be located in the mirror, rather than blamed on the 'admin.'
    "

    Rite on wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:03 PM:

    " LOL wrote on Feb 3, 2008 2:17 PM:

    " Just like any small town this dept. is a good ol' boy network, they will probably hire straight down the line. Little does the City Admin know that Sierra Vista needs someone w/ fresh ideas and a positive outlook. Someone to boost morale...so this fire dept. doesn't keep losing good people to Fry and Tucson. "

    This is exactly what this town needs. New fresh ideas from the outside...
    "

    To: Wait and see wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:52 AM:

    " Bravo... well said "

    To the fact... wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:26 AM:

    " What about P.Allred and D.Callahan, both went to Fry fire within the last two years... D.Callahan is now an Engineer with Fry fire and both are Paramedics...

    Thats the Facts!!! "

    Agree2 wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:24 AM:

    " BRAVO!!!! "

    Agree wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:22 AM:

    " Maria has hit the nail on the head... If you dont think the good ole boy system is in the picture at SVFD just look who just got hired into a Caotains position. And the new Captain isnt even a Paramedic... wonder why he was promoted... "

    Get a life wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:32 AM:

    " So if Maria and LOL work at a fire department and if they happen to work at SVFD. Then maybe they should be step up to the plate and speak to the Mayor and Council members about the hiring pratices or the good ol' boy system. No guts no glory. Otherwise you're just delievering lip service. "

    Maria wrote on Feb 5, 2008 4:46 PM:

    " As a matter of fact I work for a fire department and know how they are, and they are a set up. Not just SVFD, but all the rest that I have heard about and the ones I've worked with in the past, and I KNOW everybody hears all the rumors from ALL the fire departments about whats wrong, and who's good, and whats going on. It's just a fact. People can deny it, but seriously those that work in the field know whats going on, no matter who wants to try and sugar coat their deparments. "

    Get a life wrote on Feb 5, 2008 11:22 AM:

    " Seriously, TB, and Maria you all need to get a life! Do you work at either department? I didn't think so. I've been a Reserve at both departments and you people have no idea about the departments and how they're run. No body from SVFD has been hired at Fry in the last 5-years. No one has left SVFD for Tucson, they've only lost one person to Goodyear FD about 4-years ago. Fry FD doesn't have an Assistant Chief, but they do have three Senior Captain, they say the money saved went to hiring more Firefighters and less administrative people. "

    LOL wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:01 AM:

    " Who said I was complaining about the WORKING firefighter, I agree we have some great firefighter/medics. My complaint is about the Admin and I agree w/ 'Maria' it is embarrassing that the City will go through the motions of the hiring process. I pray they prove me wrong! For the sake of the firefighters that work for the dept. And 'Seriously' I never said Fry didn't have the same kind of network, did I? "

    Wait and See wrote on Feb 4, 2008 11:39 PM:

    " is the only thing we can do to see who gets hired to lead our city's fire department, after reading the article about past experiences, the experience that a person can bring from a bigger and busier FD would only benifit us as we are only growing, and they've been there done that and know what to expect. They all sound pretty good, and seem to sound knowledgable, but if I was on the hiring board, I would probably pick one of the outsiders for a fresher view on what needs to be done for us to move forward. "

    The Fact Is wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:53 PM:

    " We have a darn good fire dept. both SV and Fry. I would fall off my chair if they hired from out of within. PR. "

    TB wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:40 PM:

    " I know a little about the SVFD and, as far as I can remember, the only person ever "lost" to Fry was someone the City department fired, and who got picked up by Fry to finish out his pension requirements. And the City hasn't "lost" anyone to Tucson in more than 10 years.

    I don't think "LOL" knows what he or she is talking about. "

    Amazed wrote on Feb 4, 2008 5:41 PM:

    " Guess folks will always find something to complain about. In the midst of their homes being on fire, I assume previous writers would greet responding fire fighters with these complaints before allowing them to fight the fire? Thought not. "

    Say What? wrote on Feb 4, 2008 12:34 PM:

    " The SVFD has never lost any good people to either Fry or Tucson. Where do you get your facts, LOL? "

    Maria wrote on Feb 4, 2008 10:55 AM:

    " Why does this city insist on this joke of advertising and interviewing for a job that they unofficially already gave to someone already here? Thats false advertisement, and quite frankly embarassing for the fire department the city, and shameful for the person who already got the job in the "good ole boy, network", this really lowers the bar for respect in the fire department, for officers and others, and the city officials. "

    Seriously wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:48 AM:

    " How can anyone contend that SV Fire is a good ol' boy network, mention the Fry Fire District in the same statement,and not acknowledge how out of control the good ol' boy phenomena is in that dept? Has Bill Miller brought back the Assistant Chief position, or is he still the one and ONLY member of the administration there? Hmm...that's what I thought. "

    LOL wrote on Feb 3, 2008 2:17 PM:

    " Just like any small town this dept. is a good ol' boy network, they will probably hire straight down the line. Little does the City Admin know that Sierra Vista needs someone w/ fresh ideas and a positive outlook. Someone to boost morale...so this fire dept. doesn't keep losing good people to Fry and Tucson. "

    WOW wrote on Feb 3, 2008 10:11 AM:

    " They will probably hire within, it's only pretend to do the interviews and select "others from outside" in my opinion, well we will find out if I'm right! "

    Odds maker wrote on Feb 3, 2008 8:31 AM:

    " They will pick a local. "

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