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Sanctions law: Judge indicates he might allow some prosecutions

By Howard Fischer
Published/Last Modified on Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 - 06:18:17 am MST

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PHOENIX — A federal judge hinted Wednesday he may give the go-ahead for prosecutors to begin charging companies with violating Arizona’s new employer sanctions law — but only in cases where workers were hired this year.

U.S. District Court Judge Neil Wake considered claims by attorneys for business groups and others that the statute denies employers their constitutionally guaranteed “due process” rights to defend themselves against charges of knowingly hiring people not authorized to work in this country.

That is because the law could be interpreted to say a state judge determines whether a worker is undocumented solely on what is in a federal database. Attorney Lou Moffa Jr. said that denies companies he represents the opportunity to present contrary evidence.



But Wake suggested that’s all irrelevant if companies comply with a provision of the law that requires them to check the legal status of all new employees through a different federal database. The law — and the requirement to check — took effect Jan. 1.

Wake said if a company used the E-Verify system, it has no worries at all: If the database says the employee is legally entitled to work in this country, the company has a defense against being prosecuted. And the law says an employer can be found guilty only if prosecutors can show the company knowingly or intentionally hired an undocumented worker.

If Wake rules the law applies only to those hired beginning this year it will be in direct conflict with the intent of the sponsor of the measure. Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, said he believes the law allows prosecutors to go after any company which has undocumented workers on their payroll this year, no matter when they were hired.

But Wake said he has to rely on the wording of the law and not what legislators may have intended. And that law made it illegal beginning Jan. 1 for a company to “employ” an unauthorized worker.

He said that word could just mean “hire” rather than indicating someone is on the payroll after that date, regardless  of  the  date  of hire.

“The word is exquisitely ambiguous,” the judge said. And Wake said that given the harsh penalties for breaking the law — suspension or revocation of state licenses — he is required to interpret it in a way that allows it to be enforced in the fairest way possible.

At the core of the legal argument is the question of whether the law provides the constitutionally required opportunity for a company charged with violating it — and facing being put out of business — to defend itself.

Federal regulations bar employers from using the E-Verify system to check the legal status of existing workers. But a state judge, reviewing charges of illegal hiring against a firm, determines the legality of the worker in question solely through a federal database.

Wake acknowledged that could leave companies at risk of loss of license for a worker already on the payroll before Jan. 1 — someone whose status they had no way to check before.

But Wake said any employer who has complied with the employer sanctions law beginning on that date checked the worker’s status against a federal database. And Wake said if that database showed the worker was here legally, there is no danger of prosecution.

Wake said he hopes to rule on the legality of the law by Feb. 1 but said it may take a bit longer. In the interim, he got promises from lawyers for the various county attorneys that they would not bring charges against any company before March 1.

That will give whichever side loses the lawsuit a chance to file an appeal.

Wake apparently has been less impressed with other arguments by challengers of the law that it is preempted by federal statutes.

He specifically noted the state statute lets state judges suspend or revoke any licenses of firms that knowingly or intentionally break the law. And Wake pointed out the federal law which bars states from imposing civil and criminal penalties does contain an exception for licenses.



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    sierravistan wrote on Jan 22, 2008 11:28 AM:

    " I am sorry thta you are either afraid of sex of don't know what it is about, or offended, too bad, I will use whatever examples I choose and you are free to do the same, it is called FREEDOM OF SPEECH, and if you disagree with that right, then you are obviously in the wrong country...and if you know what that particular quote is and about and reference, you would never have been sooooo small-minded to ask the questin you just asked "

    To sierravista wrote on Jan 21, 2008 5:09 PM:

    " Why do you alway introduce sexual examples into your posts? Certainly you could find another example to make your point. "

    Dismayed wrote on Jan 18, 2008 1:55 AM:

    " To Angry: You got it! The process is simple, though susceptible to fraud (another subject). We give employers every to comply, and you still bleat to the Chamber of Commerce and the ACLU. Some combination. I once approved of both. If honest employers joined us in exposing the corrupt employers of illegals, they wouldn't be faced with unfair competition. Blacks and others with little education are particularly disadvantaged. (50% of blacks drop out of high school-Who the heck do you think they compete with for low-end jobs? Who deserves jobs? "

    That is what all wrote on Jan 17, 2008 2:56 PM:

    " liberals and Democrats do any more. Take the law, distort and misconstrue till you get your way. Use any loophole and to hell with custom and law! Clinton did it (remember the definition of IS), see the Dems do it with their announcements that they are in session, when there is one of them there for 30 seconds--do they really think that makes them upstanding? Look at what they are teaching our children, how to be deceitful and manipulative. Now let's twist this law to make it so the illegals can stay, yea! "

    Independent wrote on Jan 17, 2008 1:06 PM:

    " Let's just get on with it! There are many employers knowingly hiring illegal aliens. Until recently there has been no downside because the Feds did nothing. For at least 10 years employers have had an employee verification system to use, but less than 1% do so! Find 'em and fine 'em. In fact, I'd strip them and flog them in a public place along with the Chamber of Illegal Commerce for their suit to negate the state legislation. We should deport the Chamber too. "

    Angry wrote on Jan 17, 2008 10:24 AM:

    " It seems pretty simple, You fill out the I-9 - Show them your Social Security card. Don't have a social security card anymore - then ask for one - It's FREE. Get a copy of your birth certificate - it's ONLY $20 - if your a legal U.S. Citizen you can prove it. If your NOT - it's a bit more difficult now isn't it. Go back to home country, apply for legal status. "

    anon wrote on Jan 17, 2008 10:02 AM:

    " Wow. That Federal law is really stupid. Employers are BARRED from checking if current employees are legal? Who the hell passed that? "

    sierravista wrote on Jan 17, 2008 7:48 AM:

    " and judge, while splitting hairs here, remember..."I did not have sexual intercourse withthat woman"? you know exactly what "emply" meant and you are skirting the issue as much as possible....when oh when wil you people do the will of the peoploe, or have we competely lost sight of " of, for and by the people"? looks like it to me, no matter what we vote on, you continually find a loophole, not your job...that is the job of the shister lawyers! "

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