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Whetstone Fire District finances reviewed

BY DANA COLE
HERALD/REVIEW
Published/Last Modified on Friday, Oct 26, 2007 - 05:12:48 am MST

WHETSTONE — After an initial review of the Whetstone Fire District’s bookkeeping, an outside accountant has “serious concerns” about how the district has conducted its finances in the past few years.

“I found misuse of credit card charges, misuse of vacation and sick pay, missing checks, missing invoices and statements for expenses and services and failure to pay state and federal unemployment taxes,” said Karen DeVon, a Tucson-based accountant who was hired by the fire district to conduct a review of the financial processes and procedure analysis of the district’s books. “And that’s just some of the problems.”

At a Tuesday board meeting, interim Fire Chief Charles Balke outlined the list of bookkeeping problems the accountant uncovered for the year 2004. Following Balke’s report, a silence hung over the room as board members digested some of the more troubling points.

DeVon is now in the process of conducting similar reviews for 2005 and 2006.



After investigating all three years, she will compile a final report that the fire district plans to submit to the state Attorney General’s Office.

“Remember, this is just a preliminary review of the books, it’s not a final report,” Balke reminded the board following his presentation. “After the accountant has time to research some of these items, hopefully we’ll have more answers and a more complete report.”

When Balke asked board members for questions or comments, Jerry Hopper responded, “I’m speechless.”

Former fire chief Therese Williamson oversaw the fire district’s bookkeeping during the years in question. According to DeVon, an audit was conducted every year by a certified public accountant out of Willcox, but it was nothing more than a spot check of different items.

“The annual audit is to verify that the financial statement is reliable,” DeVon said. “What I’m going through now is a much more detailed internal audit, an accounting procedure analysis. I’m trying to catch everything that I see as questionable.”

But Williamson said a financial review of the fire district’s books was conducted every year that she was responsible for the bookkeeping.

“This review is required  by law and was submitted to the board to look over,” she said. “Nothing wrong was ever discovered. The last review that I was involved with was for 2005 to 2006 year. Like all the others, it was presented to the board and there was nothing wrong with my bookkeeping.”

In his presentation to the board, Balke discussed a number of problems that DeVon discovered, including overpayment of sick leave and vacation pay, which has resulted in a deficit for that particular account.

“Some employees were drawing more sick leave and vacation pay than was allotted,” Balke said. “In other words, sick leave and vacation payments were being made even though there was zero or negative hours in the available allotment.”

Because of missing checks and invoices, it’s impossible  to  track  some  of  the  district’s financial transactions.

Williamson claims that in the 15 years she was overseeing the fire district’s bookkeeping, none of these problems were ever mentioned, even when the books were reviewed by an outside accountant. Failure to pay state  and  federal  unemployment taxes in past years is another problem the district is now contending with. “Right now they’re having to pay the Department of Economic Security for claims made by terminated employees,” DeVon said.

As DeVon continues to investigate the district’s accounts, Balke is hoping there will be more answers to some of the items in question. “But the way the files were kept, it raises a lot of questions about how financial transactions transpired, at least in 2004,” Balke said. “Files were mixed and matched instead of being topic oriented, which would have made things much easier to track.”

DANA COLE can be reached at 515-4618 or dana.cole@svherald.com.



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    To RPS wrote on Nov 6, 2007 11:37 PM:

    " Never said Mr Dunn is not a fine man, but nepotism is extremly difficult not to do when you have someones job in your hands. Mr Dunn being on the Board and having a vote on the fate of Therese is nepotism no matter how great a man Mr Dunn is. There should never be someone on the board that is directly or indirectly related to the chief as there should not be employees in the fire dept that are supervised by relatives. So get off your high horse about Mr Dunn. Could you vote to fire a relative? "

    Voting Day wrote on Nov 6, 2007 9:38 AM:

    " It's voting day and I hope that everybody gets out and votes for our current board members. They have no hidden agenda, nor do they blindly follow or believe Therese, our current board is working very hard to better our community in a good healthy way. The candidates seem to lack the proper thinking skills as to what is really going on in our community, to come in and run and vote for a recall because their friend got fired, tells me they have already failed the community. This is our safety, and I want to ensure it, without chaos. "

    Donna wrote on Nov 5, 2007 11:50 PM:

    " I would like to know why people are so obsessed with Rick and Bob also, I have worked with them in the past and always found them to be extremely professional and never once put any of their fire fighters safety in question. I understand why Bob cancelled mutual-aid, he witnessed first hand the mismanagement of WFD by Therese and the unprofessional conduct of some of her employees while on the job and off. I will continue to support our current board, as they are the only ones who are working in the best interest of the district and community. "

    RPS wrote on Nov 5, 2007 11:29 PM:

    " To Whetstone voter: Mr. Dunn is a very fine man who only has Whetstones best interests in mind. For you to insinuate anything other than that is an insult to all of Whetstone Residents. This community owes alot to Mr. Dunn, for you to imply he did anything other than improve the Whetstone community is insulting. "

    Whetstone Voter wrote on Nov 5, 2007 6:31 PM:

    " To whetstone-not sure where you have been, but Rick Evans is a volunteer fire fighter and not assist Chief of HFD why would you put our misleading information? Mr Evans has not even considered running for the WFD Chief position all candidates so far have been from out of state. Why would Rick want mutual aid cancelled, he has property in WFD. The deciding change to fire Therese was Rick replace Gene Dune Therese former husbands brother. Nepotism at is finest!! "

    Why wrote on Nov 5, 2007 4:23 PM:

    " Are people obsessing about Rick and Bob, when all WFD problems were created by none other than Therese herself? Is it because they want to take the focus off the real problem? I have never heard the "rummor" that WFD and HCFD becoming one, they have and will continue to work independently. Is this the rantings of the paranoid? Vote for the current board, as they are the ONLY ones that have our communty's best interest at heart, certainly the candidates don't, they prefer excuses and failure to progress, and a better community. Vote, RICK-MARY-KEN-BILL, for all our safety:) "

    whetstone wrote on Nov 4, 2007 10:30 PM:

    " My veiw on the cancelation of mutual aid had the purpose to sway votes to remove the fire chief of WFD by influencing other board members to vote for termination. After a time Evans would assume the Fire Chief of WFD and he and Bob would run both WFD and HCFD together, (the recall ruined that). Would this be a bad thing of the 2 departments working together, I think not Whetstone and HC should work together, but not with Bob and Rick at the helm. Whetstone must and will stay independent of HC. "

    whetstone wrote on Nov 4, 2007 10:15 PM:

    " to whetstone voter: Rick Evans is the assistant fire chief of Huachuca city fire department so dont try to play dumb with Whetstone voters. Had he been working for Whetstones safty he would not have convinced Bob Fenimore to cancel mutual aid, and long time residents of both Huachuca City and Whetstone know that Bob can not be trusted. Remember his mayoral term how did that work out. "

    Whetstone Voter wrote on Nov 4, 2007 4:48 PM:

    " Mr Evans is not Assist Chief at HFD. I do not know what benefit he would gain from canceling mutual aid with the WFD. Mr Fenimore is a very respected Fire Chief and I am sure would not be a puppet of Rick Evans. Please inform us what they have gained in this cancellation of mutual aid. Mr Evans lives in Whetstone,would risk his own property with cancelation of aid. If you look at the previous minutes the problem with the aid was brought to Therese attention close to the time Therese suggested Rick for the Board position. "

    To MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 4, 2007 4:38 PM:

    " As a candidate for the Board you owe it to the community to give us the absolute best candidate you can give us, so the choice of falling back on the fired Chief is not an acceptable choice to me. It would be your job to continue the search and find ways to attract qualified candidates so we did not have to choose between the fired chief and the newspaper person. I would expect nothing less from current board or people running for the board position. There lays the problem, Therese or newspaper person, "none of the above" "

    To MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 4, 2007 4:30 PM:

    " We will have to agree to disagree, I am not mischaracterizing your statement. You have said in other blog postings if Therese were the most qualified candidate you would consider rehiring her. As you said in this posting if given the choice of Therese or the newspaper person on I10, it would be very clear that my decision would absolutely never be to hire back a chief that has been terminated. I have been in a business management position for 35 years and the very last thing you do is rehire someone that has been fired. (continued) "

    wondering wrote on Nov 4, 2007 2:35 PM:

    " If the current board stays in office, I wonder if they will all be removed from office for negligence and we will have to hold a new election? If the State Attorney General finds that there was money that was misused will the current board as well as the ones that misused funds be held accountable, or will the current board play stupid and say they had no idea. Either way they failed to oversee funds that they approved to be spent. Dont wait VOTE THEM OUT NOW!! "

    to area firefighter wrote on Nov 4, 2007 2:24 PM:

    " How does knowing how a fire department is run have anything to do with financial issues? Had the current board been doing their job, there would be no financial error issues. They would have caught any descrepencies when they reveiwed and signed the checks. The current board has failed the residents of Whetstone by failing to do what they are supposed to, oversight. The board is there for oversight not to run a firestation. "

    Jon wrote on Nov 4, 2007 10:37 AM:

    " After reading these posts, I would be negligant to my community for vote for anybody else, other than our current board. Our district is in a huge mess that was created over time, finances were artfully hidden by Therese, some employees were either incapable of work, or brown nosed so much that was their full time job, and moral was down, and Therese and Jon B. thought this was proper working conditions. Now things are finally changing, Chuck is making people DO their jobs, train, and getting our district up to national standards, why back peddle with the other candidates? "

    Tax payer wrote on Nov 3, 2007 8:02 PM:

    " Change is a good thing if it is done for the right reasons. I believe change at this time is for the wrong reason. I say keep the current board and let them finish making the needed corrections and if they are unable to do what needs to be done then replace them at the end of their terms. Don't replace them because they trusted the person they selected to manage the department failed miserably. The manager is the one that is supposed to be upto date on current standards and relay those to the Board of Directors "

    Area Firefighter wrote on Nov 3, 2007 7:58 PM:

    " Speaking as someone that has two decades of experience in the fire service I believe it would not benefit the Whetstone community to replace a board member with an extensive fire service back ground with anyone that has absolutely no idea how a fire department is supposed to run. Rick Evans is the one that initiated the internal audit that has led to the current finacial errors, so why replace someone that found the problem unless you are trying cover up your friends problems and illegal actions. Be careful you vote for the right reasons and people "

    Whetstone Resident wrote on Nov 3, 2007 7:54 PM:

    " To Rob, if there were competent candidates running against the current board then we the public might have that opportunity. The current board is in the process of hiring a new qualified chief. I don't believe any of the candidates are competent as they are either family or friends of the incompetent ex-chief. "

    Leo wrote on Nov 3, 2007 7:16 PM:

    " Therese was a failure and knew it, the board tried to spare her feelings instead of ruining her future job prospects by saying that, So at least they were being considerate, they gave her chance after chance. MJ and the other candidates would only continue Thereses work at destroying our district. So Don't forget to vote for our current board members, the others are incompetent losers in my opinion! "

    And wrote on Nov 3, 2007 6:48 PM:

    " Who would be a competent board, friends of the Therese? At least this boared got rid of that incompedent. "

    J.B. wrote on Nov 3, 2007 5:56 PM:

    " Has anyone done a criminal backround check on the current board members or the canidates running against them. I would feel better knowing who is looking out for my safty and what type of backround they have. Maybe this should be asked of the canidates and the current board. To release a criminal backround check to the public. "

    whetstone wrote on Nov 3, 2007 5:35 PM:

    " to leo: Was Fenimore at the scene at that burning building down the street from the Whetstone fire station or was his assistant chief Rick Evans the one that filled him in on what happened, and how long has that policy been in effect on entering mobile homes?? WFD uses Huachuca City dispatch. Was WFD dispatched in an appropriate time? We all know how Huachuca City dispatch has failed to dispatch WFD in the past. Maybe it is time to not only get a competent board, but get a compotent dispatch! "

    Rob wrote on Nov 3, 2007 4:12 PM:

    " When the ex-chief was terminated what reason was given, the only reason given to the public, was this is a right to work state. Now it seems like the board is trying to justify that decision. Had they known about all thes defieciency's at that time maybe it would have made this recall election not happen. Once again this board failed to provide answers to the people that they work for Whetstone residents. Recall the board members and let a competent board hire a competent chief. "

    whetstone wrote on Nov 3, 2007 4:03 PM:

    " To leo: funny how you say its like one of your kids doing something wrong and blaming others. It seems like the current board is blaming all their defieciency's on the ex-chief. There always seems to be a scape goat. Yes the ex-chief might not have been right for the job but who appointed her and who failed to oversee her if all these defeciency's are true. The board that is who! Rick Evans has only accomplished one thing since being in office that is getting mutual aid canceled and endangering whetstone!! "

    Can you handle the truth? wrote on Nov 3, 2007 12:14 PM:

    " CONTINUED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM IS TO RETAIN THE CURRENT BOARD FOR THE REMAINDER TO THEIR TERM, GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO HANG ON THEIR WALLS FOR THEIR DEDICATED YEARS OF SERVICE, AND THEN VOTE IN FRESH, NEW BOARD MEMBERS. "

    Can you handle the truth? wrote on Nov 3, 2007 12:09 PM:

    " What happened is that we had the wrong people in management positions. They did not have the desire to learn what needed to be done to place the department into compliance, acquire equipment, and learn how to deal with employees. Evans has this knowledge so he realized that the ex-chief was incompetant and that things were not being run correctly. He simply took the steps to make a change and the board agreed. CONTINUED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "

    leo wrote on Nov 3, 2007 7:33 AM:

    " Bringing up the cancellation of mutual aid by Fenimore is a clever way to try and confuse the issue here. Why was mutual aid cancelled? Things like a building burning right next to the station in Whetstone and Huachuca City responding before Whetstone, or the unofficial Whetstone "policy" of not making entry in a mobile home fire. These, like the financial issues, are all mismanagement issues. Don't blame Fenimore for our problems. That's like when one of my kids gets caught doing something stupid and then tries to blame his brother. Talk about immaturity. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 11:53 PM:

    " To: Diana, We are fortunate that we have had eight potential applicants so far, but at the time that the question was first asked I was not confident we would attract anywhere near that many. Given the sacrifice that Chief Balke was already making, my answer was proper, and I stand behind it. AGAIN, what I said was I would hire the MOST QUALIFIED applicant we could find, to frame that as "I said I would hire Ms. Williamson back", IS a mischaracterization that makes it sound as if I would pursue that action. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 11:44 PM:

    " To: Diana, I appreciate your comments and that you are committed to finding the best we can for our District, but really I must protest that my reply has been "mis-characterized". In a "perfect world" I would agree with you, but Whetstone is NOT a "perfect world. Chief Balke is paying the price for every day that the District goes without a permanent Chief. We are a small District, with a small budget, and less money to offer for the position than larger districts. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 11:37 PM:

    " To: Question for McCoy. These conditions were either non-existent, insignificant, or overlooked, prior to Mr. Evans arrival, which one you believe is your personal choice. I do find it interesting that in five short months Mr. Evans was able to not only uncover all these oversights, but also was able to show the other (long-standing) board members that their support of the previous Chief was mis-placed, and that a new "agenda" had to be set. Either he is the District's saviour, or he is pushing his own agenda. Again, the choice is yours. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 11:10 PM:

    " To: Question for McCoy. The Districts finances are not tetering on collapse, but are in need of a higher level of oversight by the board. It should not be the case that an audit finds a "list of bookkeeping problems" that the board was not aware of, much like the "three years of record keeping" that Mr. Evans quoted as the reason for the termination of the previous Chief, that no one on the board realized we were lacking, until Mr. Evans was "appointed" to be on the Board. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 10:39 PM:

    " To: Question for McCoy. To tell the truth, I do not have a specific plan to generate more revenue for the District. I believe there are grants, and other funds that we could do a better job of pursuing, and I know we need to find an effective collection agency to secure money that is owed for service provided, but the honest truth is that the District is NOT in dire financial condition. We are in the black according to the most recent report to the board. "

    whetstone wrote on Nov 2, 2007 8:57 PM:

    " Once Rick Evans is voted off the board, will he and Bob Fenimore play politics with mutual aid? Whetstone residents dont be fooled this election is about keeping Whetstone independent. We should work with Huachuca City but not be influenced and controlled by them. Dont forget the assistant fire chief at Huachuca City is none other than Rick Evans. Rick evans says he is for Whetstone's safety, but he is the assistant chief of the department that canceled mutual aid with Whetstone. Does this seem like he cares about whetstone's safety??? "

    Resident wrote on Nov 2, 2007 5:52 PM:

    " To MJMcCoy you will need to get a much thicker skin if you win the election, as a public figure you are going to be subject to negative comments, and people who do not agree with your decision, you will have to grin and bare it. What you are tasting now is what your recall group has put Rick Evans through in the past few months, so buck up and take the heat. "

    To Mr McCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 5:40 PM:

    " You continue to use the 15 year time frame to base your recall. Again I ask why not recall all the Board members that have been on the Board for that period of time and not just select some? Also why recall Rick Evans when he has only been on the board for 6 months and has so much fire dept experience. The only real reason can be these are the people that voted to terminate Therese. So get off the 15 years of poor board performance and on the the real reason for the recall. "

    To Mr McCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 5:34 PM:

    " Your answer if given the choice of hiring Therese or the newspaper seller on the corner should have answered "sorry none of the above will do, we will continue our search!" You have not been mis-characterized, you have said you would consider her if she were the most qualified, to even say you would consider her is a scary thing, back when you made the statement and even more so today in light of some of the findings. Diana Barton "

    Voter wrote on Nov 2, 2007 5:13 PM:

    " Yes Therese lacked the skills to properly do her jobs, and lacked the people skills and common sense that a Chief should have, but what I would like to know is how long will it take and at what cost to fix the trouble she created? How close is our district to bankruptcy at this point? And what exactly is our community going to go without as far as EMS equipment? Our district is here for our safety, but what is the cost of our safety. How accountable is Therese at this point for her failure for responsible spending. "

    Dan wrote on Nov 2, 2007 3:03 PM:

    " As a community member, I am shocked at the way the district had been run in the last few years. How could Therese think this was O.K.? And why hadn't a real audit been done every 5-6 years to make sure that our tax dollars were being spent in a appropriate-law-abiding way? Where was Thereses ethics? As a chief she should have set the bar for our district morals, and she let us down in a huge way, our fire fighters and our community will have to do without a lot of critical tools thanks to unethical practices. "

    Question for McCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 2:43 PM:

    " Since the fire district is hurting financially, How do you plan to fix this? How will you generate more revenue for the district? "

    P wrote on Nov 2, 2007 2:22 PM:

    " MJM talks a good game but when the audit is done the game will be over. "

    Another Resident wrote on Nov 2, 2007 1:36 PM:

    " MJMcCoy still sounds dumb, and why hasn't he gotten any e-mails? Because he hasn't stated anything that actually makes sense! Really MJ you need to improve your people skills, get some common sense, and get a clue on the community. You are Therese's friend and you are only looking out for her best interest, not the community's. It's to bad you aren't able to look at the big picture, Therese took care of the books for the last 15 years, everybody believed her reports, EVERYBODY!(IF I could make that any bigger I would), So my vote stays with the current-board! "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 10:21 AM:

    " But, that would be too easy. As easy as it is for these people to comment about my knowledge, my committment, my intelligence, or anything else they've commented on, without talking to me once about any of these issues. I've been at the Board meetings. I work at the Fire Station, and anyone there knows how to contact me. I've posted an email address (whetstone.mccoy@yahoo.com), 0 messages. If you do not have enough interest to ask me a direct question, and to accurately report my response, should ANYONE pay attention to your "opinion"? "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 10:09 AM:

    " It would be easy, if I were the type of person who engaged in the kind of thinking that passes for "thoughtful contribution" in these comment sections, to say things like: "Recall the recall" will have to crawl back into his cave after the election, or; "Resident" obviously doesn't care about the community, because he doesn't care about the communities foster kids, or; that all the commenters who are criticizing those who are running against the current board are "elusive" because they never came to any of the board meetings I attended. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 9:33 AM:

    " One other thing, one more time. My statement, consistently mis-characterized, about re-hiring Ms. Williamson was this: I would IF (I can not make this "IF" any bigger for those who do not want to acknowledge it) IF she were the MOST QUALIFIED APPLICANT. Based on many of the comments posted, if the only two people to apply were Ms. Williamson and one of the people selling newspapers at the I10 exit, these people would expect the Board to hire the newspaper seller. I lack common sense? "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 9:20 AM:

    " What have the "constants" been for the past 15 years? Who has been in positions of responsibility for all this time, with access to all the information, charged with protecting the communities interests and insuring that the communities money was being properly spent? Once you've answered that question, you might also ask "Why are these people so intent on attempting to place all the blame on ONE PERSON?" Could ONE PERSON be responsible for the long term failures of an entire District? I simply do not believe that is possible. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 9:12 AM:

    " The suggestion that the assignment of a person to perform book-keeping duties relieves a person with oversight responsibilities of any need to exercise those responsibilities is absurd on too many levels. The suggestion that the financial questions further imply that the issues of ISO ratings, equipment condition, record keeping, training, etc. (for the past 15 years) must also be attributable to a person who was in a position of responsibility for the past 4 years, is just as absurd. If faced with conditions that have existed for 15 or more years, there is only one reasonable question. "

    Margie wrote on Nov 2, 2007 9:04 AM:

    " The candidates have yet to show that they actually want whats best for the community, they seem just as unprepared as Therese herself. They support Therese and if asked they would probably state again that they would consider her for rehire even after finding out that Therese made up her own accounting system rather than one that is legal and in the best interest of the district. Our community was very near to financial ruin because of Therese. The other candidates would only complete what Therese nearly did. I am ashamed of Thereses job performance after reading all the information. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Nov 2, 2007 8:56 AM:

    " I've asked the question before, and I'll ask it once more because I believe it is central to the debate. Ms. Williamson was the Chief Officer of the station for how long? Prior to her, Mr. Balke was the Chief Officer. Prior to that, who was the Chief Officer? How could you blame any ONE of them for conditions that have existed for over 15 years? Is there anyone, in positions of responsibility, who has been a "constant" for the majority of the 15 years that these conditions existed? "

    Concerned citizen wrote on Nov 2, 2007 8:20 AM:

    " To long time resident, Cleo not only spoke eloquently last night and answered all the questions asked well. All our votes are for Cleo! "

    whetstone resident wrote on Nov 1, 2007 10:38 PM:

    " I do hope that the residents of this fine community are not fooled by this group of candidates. They are not for the community. If they were they would have been more active in recent board meetings or simply by taking the initiative to get accurate information. It is obvious that these are friends of Therese's that are upset that she was fired. Read the article about how messed up the finances were under her control. The same thing would continue under their direction as none of them know how a fire department needs to be operated. "

    life long resident wrote on Nov 1, 2007 10:32 PM:

    " to concerned citizen. I don't see how you can possibly think it is a landslide for Cleo unless you are one of the illinformed clones of Cleos. I know the most of the firefighters at the Department DO NOT support any of the candidates and neither do I or my family and friends. We can all see through her misinformation, which was obvious at the meeting tonight. If she was so right for the position how come she didnot have any correct information such as not knowing that the chief position had been posted already. "

    J.D. wrote on Nov 1, 2007 7:14 PM:

    " Cleo states she has education, and some imagined experience, but no matter what she still sounds like she doesn't have common sense. I would have to move if she or any of those other want-to-be candidates got voted in, none of them sound educated or experienced, they sound dumb. I haven't heard none of the board members sound as ill-informed or blind as the candidates, I want to move forward, not rehire Therese to finish off our district. "

    Mike wrote on Nov 1, 2007 6:53 PM:

    " Now Cleo wants to go to a meeting? She should feel some shame, but probably to clueless to, Don't want someone that clueless in there, thanks but no thanks, don't feel like walking away from a meeting thinking how ignorant some of our community members are. "

    Whetstone Voter wrote on Nov 1, 2007 6:07 PM:

    " I will vote for the current board and I know everyone I know is voting for the current board. "

    to Cleo wrote on Nov 1, 2007 6:05 PM:

    " why did you wait to the last minute to have a meeting? There have been many people asking in the post for some comments from you. You have not spent any time seeking anything from the media or from any postings, do you not want to be questioned on why you would be a good candidate? "

    rob wrote on Nov 1, 2007 4:50 PM:

    " I have seen how boards work money cannot be spent without boards approval. Not for credit card payments or employee payroll, if funds were misused that is reason alone to replace the current fire board. Lets get a board that will oversee who ever the new chief is and not play the blame game for there incompetence and lack of oversight. A new chief is only part of the answer, a new board is the other part to get the district back on track. Turn out on Nov. 6 vote for a change! "

    Aurturo wrote on Nov 1, 2007 2:07 PM:

    " Cleo, You will answer all questions? If so great idea! You and the other new board members are off to a good start! "

    Cleo wrote on Nov 1, 2007 9:51 AM:

    " Come to the meeting tonite and express yourself! "

    Joan wrote on Nov 1, 2007 9:13 AM:

    " Some of the comments in here are funny. My vote will be for the current board, they are for change, getting the district up to standards, getting the employees moral, working on WFD's reputation that Therese and the new candidates tried real hard to ruin, and almost succeeding. Therese single handedly almost financially ruined our district, and do we want to vote in her so called friends to complete what Therese started? I don't think so, I like having our fire fighters right here in our community if I need them, but we won't if we get new board-members. "

    Concerned citizen wrote on Nov 1, 2007 8:59 AM:

    " Looks like a landslide for Cleo! Remeber to vote! "

    Dennis wrote on Oct 31, 2007 10:18 PM:

    " Therese is unethical and so are her supporters, wouldn't vote for them to take out the garbage, they would probably vote to keep the stink around rather than get rid of it. It's odvious they all lack morals and ethics, but then look at them, talk about the buddy system. The candidates and Therese are laughable, and I can only shake my head at some of the stupid, thoughtless comments they make. "

    WFD wrote on Oct 31, 2007 8:34 PM:

    " We are backing Cleo!!! With the education, experience and character we need to lead whetstone! "

    WFD Voters wrote on Oct 31, 2007 7:05 PM:

    " if you vote for the people running for the recall, you will get 1 person who is related to the fired chief, 1 person who has lived with the fired chief family, 1 person who was hired by the fired chief. you also get 2 people who have not been to a fire board meeting since the firing of the former chief, 1 person who has only been to 2 meetings since the firing. how concerned do you think these candidates are about the fire district. the only thing that keeps this group together is the firing of the chief. "

    To Cleo wrote on Oct 31, 2007 6:52 PM:

    " Granted the current board has not always done everything perfect, but do you really want a group of 4 people on the board that all seem to be united by Therese? Can these be free thinking individuals that will look at for what is best for WFD or will the only think of what brought them together in the first place, which was the termination of Therese. The current board has only 1 year left and then we can choose new board members that are not focused on the termination of Therese!! "

    To Cleo wrote on Oct 31, 2007 6:47 PM:

    " We have been waiting all this time and nothing from you, nothing from Patty and nothing from Tim. How in anyones mind can you vote for people you know nothing about!!! If you vote these folks in they all have one common thing, they all very outspoken vocal supporters of Therese, with MJM saying he would consider hiring Therese back. Knowing what we know about the condition of the books how can we even consider this possibility. At least the current board is not afraid of the review of the books. "

    To Cleo wrote on Oct 31, 2007 6:42 PM:

    " what the heck are you going to set us free from. You sound like you want us to follow you down the path of eternal light. Do you thing we are falling for this at the last minute?? We have been asking you for months in this post and the other post to come forward and tell us where you stand on the issues. Did not happen, you had your chance and you were nowhere to be found. Now in the 11th hour you want to make a comment like setting us free. Do you have a clue?? "

    Resident wrote on Oct 31, 2007 5:05 PM:

    " A vote for Cleo seems like the most prudent step. Come on residents and let move our community forward with a vote for Cleo! "

    Suzann wrote on Oct 31, 2007 5:01 PM:

    " Wow Cleo, looks like someone doesn't like you. "

    Whetstone for change wrote on Oct 31, 2007 4:55 PM:

    " Cleo, everybody I know is voting for you. Thanks for having the courage and conviction to make a difference. Whetstone is fortunate to have someone like you living and contributing in this community. "

    Resident wrote on Oct 31, 2007 1:22 PM:

    " you can count on my vote!!!!! "

    resident wrote on Oct 31, 2007 1:17 PM:

    " Makes me wonder if Cleo's, MJ MCCoy, Tim, and Patty all have the same unethical practices as Therese. They all thought she was the greatest, now we know what she was the greatest at. They are all unethical, and stupid sounding to me. Don't seem like any of them have any common sense, what a sad example of our community. We should thank all of them for dragging Whetstone through the mud, with their ill-informed and unsolicited opinions on things they know nothing about. "

    Just another resident wrote on Oct 31, 2007 12:26 PM:

    " If I take a day off I have to use accumulated sick leave, personal leave, or a day without pay. Isn't that the way it's done? Apparantly not if you work for the WFD. "

    Free Ride wrote on Oct 31, 2007 12:06 PM:

    " Is Therese going to get a free ride on the years prior to 2004? I think they should continue auditing all the way back to when the Fire Dept was first started. The people of Whetstone deserve to know how much money was stolen from them! "

    Cleo wrote on Oct 31, 2007 6:36 AM:

    " Come out, come out, where ever you are! "Vote for me, and I'll set you free!" "

    Cleo and Cronies? wrote on Oct 29, 2007 7:56 PM:

    " Hey Cloe and Cronies, we know you read thid blog. Still no comments? Why so QUIET all of a sudden? "

    Slowpoke wrote on Oct 29, 2007 5:13 PM:

    " AUdits are required by law, Auditor was friend of whom? What is that Auditor's status now that this has come to light? Who will face Attorney General Office charges? Who will reimburse WFD for money given that was not earned?(US Government justs takes it out of next paycheck). More IMPORTANT WHOSE running & what are their connections to Mrs Williamson. Choice old Board or new Board with Mrs Williamson's friends & relatives. "

    Totally Right wrote on Oct 29, 2007 9:19 AM:

    " You stated it perfectly "TO MJM" Maybe now MJ MCCoy will actually get it. Apparently he hasn't yet, since he's still making excuses for Thereses embellishment of our districts finances. She failed to fully inform not only the board but the whole community, as we will all suffer with things to do without to try and get the district into any semblance of a proper running district. We were all duped. "

    To MJM wrote on Oct 29, 2007 12:00 AM:

    " Think about this: If the governor hires a treasurer, he expects the treasures report to be accurate, he does not run into the treasures office and look at all the paperwork. If I am hired to manage a company by a corporation, they would expect the information I gave them and reported would be accurate, they would not run in to my office and check my reports daily, they may bring someone in to audit them, which is what the Board thought the Willcox firm was doing and this was what they were led to believe. "

    to MJMcCoy wrote on Oct 28, 2007 11:33 PM:

    " loosing it a little over the training for foster parents by the Whetstone Fire Dept. stupid request, if and when you and she get elected then put it on your plate, if she is so concerned she can get cpr certified and teach it to them herself, there is the glory and sacrifice, but much more work then just asking someone else to do the training. "

    to Fed Up wrote on Oct 28, 2007 11:06 PM:

    " Have you been to a board meeting recently? If only Cowards take anonymous pot shots at people then what are you doing? Where have the folks that are running been? Certainly not at any recent board meetings, except for Mr McCoy and last meeting Cleo. Should we try to track these elusive people down to ask them where they stand on issues with the WFD. It is their job if they are running to convince us they deserve the position, not our job to track them down. "

    Resident wrote on Oct 28, 2007 10:53 PM:

    " Southern Arizona Chapter SIERRA VISTA SERVICE CENTER American Red Cross 1939 S. Frontage Rd Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 Ph: (800) 341-6943 x250 "

    Resident wrote on Oct 28, 2007 10:52 PM:

    " Below is the information for the American Red Cross, they have regularly scheduled training classes in CPR. They do not have to worry about ISO inspections, hiring a new Chief, getting books in order, training,staffing a fire dept with growing pains. Mr MCCoy I did not twist anything into "Glory Grab" now is not the time or place to ask for such a daunting task to be taken on by the WFD when other agencies are available. "

    Resident wrote on Oct 28, 2007 10:22 PM:

    " To MJMcoy I will be proud to say I will not vote for you. Apparently you also are not concern this is not the time to ask the WFD for anything more than they have on their plate. If you feel training foster parents by the WFD to be a priority when our fire dept is in such a disarray then you are missing the point. WFD is not the only agency that can train these foster parents, tell me who has CCS been using to train them before Cleo ask WFD. Please give a special shout out! "

    FED UP wrote on Oct 28, 2007 9:50 PM:

    " Anyone in this district who votes the current board back in gets exactly what they deserve. I am tired of reading the comments from all these residents who do not have the decency to show their faces at the board meetings, or PERSONALLY, face-to-face, speak to anyone who is running against the current board. Only COWARDS take anonymous potshots at people via this forum. I am disgusted at the lack of actual thought process that is going on in this community. "

    James wrote on Oct 28, 2007 8:32 PM:

    " Therese really stuck to us people of the community now didn't she. Yes, she was the one who was ultimately responsible, as the chief and as the one going to the board with what should have been all information. If she was good as what she said, then our district wouldn't be in the state it is in now. I feel sorry for the next chief, as there will be alot of work to build up trust by the community and the board, all thanks to Therese. She failed to give full disclosure to the board, now we all pay. "

    WFD Resident wrote on Oct 28, 2007 3:42 PM:

    " Do I feel Therese is mainly responsible? Yes, she was the one that gave reports to the board on financial issues, she's also the one who by her own admission was responsible for the books, so she is the one responsible for failure to inform the board. They trusted her, and believed her, and because of her anyone that comes before them will have to work very hard and prove themselves to be trustworthy. I don't feel MJMcCoy is trustworthy though, he's still making excuses for Therese apparently ignoring proper book keeping and common sense, she's responsible. "

    Joan wrote on Oct 28, 2007 10:22 AM:

    " Where's all of Thereses supporters now? Wonder if they feel this is still a unjust issue of firing her? Therese admitted she was in charge of the books for 15 years, and she did a BAD job of that, she only wanted a free ride, and she got that long enough. She should be embarrassed to still be going to the board meetings, I find that so funny, that she still wants to be somewhere where no one wants her, It's funny and sad on her part, what a sad little woman. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Oct 27, 2007 9:49 PM:

    " Our District is growing, and at the moment we are having some difficulty in adjusting to that growth. Were mistakes made as we transitioned from a small volunteer Fire Station to a slightly larger, professional staff? Possibly! Was there "rampant corruption" and "misappropriation"? I rather doubt it. Was there a significant lack of "Proper oversight"? I think the answer to that is fairly clear. Is there a way for the District to move forward? I think that is fairly clear as well. Come out and vote on November 6th! "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Oct 27, 2007 9:37 PM:

    " For those who are giving this recall some serious thought I pose a couple questions. Does it seem reasonable to you that the current board, on reading the list of "issues" brought out by this audit, should be able to say "We had NO IDEA that these things were happening, and therefore we SHARE NO RESPONSIBILITY? Does it seem reasonable to you that the current board, who allowed these "irregularities" to occur ON THEIR WATCH, should be given a "free pass" because it was ALL CHIEF WILLIAMSONS fault? "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Oct 27, 2007 9:26 PM:

    " Also, special thanks to "Recall the Recall", who does not seem to understand that the term "Good ole boy network" generally implies the "status quo". Your "good ole boys" are the ones who put the District in this position by not fulfilling their responsibilities to provide "oversight" on how the financial records were being maintained. I have no doubt mistakes were made, but to imply that someone was "knowingly" cooking the books is libelous, reckless, and premature until a complete report is made. Do the words "innocent until PROVEN guilty" ring a bell to anyone? "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Oct 27, 2007 9:16 PM:

    " I'd like to give a special "shout out" to "Hey Cleo" and "Resident": Apparently you didn't hear the part about "70% of the Foster Parents in Cochise County are here in Whetstone". How you could TWIST the request (for training, required for Foster Parents to be certified, so they can take in Foster Children) into some sort of "glory grab" is beyond me. Once again you ATTACK someone who is trying to do something GOOD for the community. You both are "class acts", I'll be proud to say YOU did not vote for me. "

    MJMcCoy wrote on Oct 27, 2007 9:06 PM:

    " What an interesting collection of comments! I have to admit, for a group of people who still can not even demonstrate enough interest to attend the meetings, you all have plenty to say, and plenty of assumptions and accusations to make. Did any of you hear what the "irregularities" were? Have any of you given any thought to WHO would be responsible for overseeing the area's that the problems were found in? The Chief is not responsible for all the business the District conducts. Think about it. "

    Sharon wrote on Oct 27, 2007 8:38 PM:

    " Our fire department is in serious trouble because it was never run properly, and severely mis-managed by Therese. Our community is out alot of money because of her stupidity. I am ashamed for her and embarrassed, because I honestly don't think she even GETS it. She really don't get what she has done. Therese nearly succeeded single handly in ruining our community's fire district, I can see this will take many years to straighten our and for our district to get respectability back. This is truly horrible for us. I hope that everybody gets out and votes-keep the current board! "

    Good Job wrote on Oct 27, 2007 4:57 PM:

    " It looks like Chief Balke is doning a great job despite the fact he only has an associates degree. Imagine that someone without a degree doing a good job. "

    Resident29 wrote on Oct 27, 2007 9:54 AM:

    " Therese's still going to the meetings and trying to put in her two cents? She's lost all credibility and is truly a the laughing stock of not only the community but the county. Therese was a failure. Those spot checks she had done were just that, because she knew that if our department was ever really looked at we would be in serious trouble. I wonder who she will blame this on, bet she won't take responsibility on this either, she's so predictable! "

    Laughable wrote on Oct 27, 2007 9:32 AM:

    " Anyone who knew Therese and was familiar with they way she ran things knew this was coming. Shocker? I don't think so, I have seen Therese at work, and thats laughable. We are where we are because of her stupidity. She was nothing better than a shyster, who was only looking our for herself and one good friend! "

    Resident wrote on Oct 27, 2007 8:41 AM:

    " This is not a board member I would want on my board!!! Good job Cleo!! lets just add a little more to Chief Balke's plate. I am appalled you can even keep your head held high on this one. Shame Shame Shame on you for not looking out for what is best for the entire Whetstone area and being so short sighted. "

    Resident wrote on Oct 27, 2007 8:37 AM:

    " This request to have the WFD train foster parents CPR is a selfish, self motivated request by Cleo, who absolutely has no clue the needs of the WFD and has even less of a clue the condition of fire dept. With a looming ISO inspection in November, if the score is not good, could and will result in higher insurance premiums or insurance cancellations if we are rated substandard, her only focus was to ask for something that will give her points. "

    Resident wrote on Oct 27, 2007 8:28 AM:

    " Cleo and Co finally showed up to a board meeting 2 weeks before election to ask WFD to take on a daunting task of training foster parents CPR. How can she possible think this will be good for the WFD, they have so much on their plates: recall, ISO evaluation in November, records review, possible investigation by the Attorney General, hiring a new Chief, training our own fire personnel and in general bringing our WFD to standard. This tells you how much she cares about our WFD, only what it can do for her to make her look good. "

    KL wrote on Oct 26, 2007 7:32 PM:

    " KL WROTE ON OCT 26 7:30 PM IT IS AMAZING THAT THE 100 OR SO PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE BOARD MEETING IN MAY, WHO WERE CALLING THE BOARD VARIOUS NAMES, WERE NOT VISIBLE BEFORE NOR SINCE. "

    HAHAHA wrote on Oct 26, 2007 1:35 PM:

    " GH....it is spelled S-C-R-E-W-E-D!! hahaha C'mon people.... "

    Recall the recall, wrote on Oct 26, 2007 12:38 PM:

    " Hilarious! Hey Cleo, any comments? I love the comment in the article about how silence HUNG over the room with this new information. We all pretty much know what's next. I can't wait until the final audit is done to find out the particulars. The good ol' boy network (Cleo and cronies) will have to crawl back into their caves and eat some serious crow now. This is real entertainment small town politics at it's best. Therese and crew may have opened a can of worms that result in criminal charges. Keep us informed on this one Dana Cole! "

    Not Again wrote on Oct 26, 2007 11:51 AM:

    " Can any tax payer funded organization in this area get it right! They should all be audited! "

    Whetstone Arizona wrote on Oct 26, 2007 6:50 AM:

    " Maybe the proponents of the recall may want to recall their recall? "

    Hey Cleo wrote on Oct 26, 2007 6:27 AM:

    " Quit asking the board for freebee donations for your charities. They're broke. Maybe you should ask Therese. "

    GH wrote on Oct 26, 2007 6:23 AM:

    " I heard the tape recording of the meeting and I have to ask Therese and all the board members; including Mr Speechless whos not on the recall list; HOW DO YOU SPELL "SKREWED"? "

    ILL wrote on Oct 26, 2007 5:46 AM:

    " Corruption seems to be the norm lately, in the taxpayer funded businesses. "

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